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Old 05-08-2008, 08:21 AM   #51
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UFOs.. no, life in the universe - most likely, and lots of it
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:23 AM   #52
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there are literally Millions of Stars out, most have their own planets

are some of them capable of sustaining life I am sure there are literally thousands that can maybe not life as we know it.

and the possibility that some of them could be advanced enough to travel through space and time isn't that far fetched either.

I am sure in the next 100 years we will begin to find ways we can do it too. Some people say we already can.

I guess if these "Aliens" are out there and their evolution started a million or two earlier then us then they very well could be showing up in our galaxy.

as for us being so insignificant to them I don't think thats even an issue Look at our scientists that study bacteria thats pretty insignificant but we have thousands of people that study it.


Who knows but until solid proof is really shown we can only speculate
they say there are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on earth.

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The statitistics

1) The number of galaxies. An estimated 50 billion galaxies are visible with modern telescopes and the total number in the universe must surely exceed this number by a huge factor, but we will be conservative and simply double it. That's 100,000,000,000 galaxies in the universe.

2) The number of stars in an average galaxy. As many as hundreds of billions in each galaxy.

Lets call it just 100 billion.

That's 100,000,000,000 stars per galaxy.

3)The number of stars in the universe.

So the total number of stars in the universe is roughly 100 billion x 100 billion.

That's 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars, 10 thousand, billion, billion. Properly known as 10 sextillion. And that's a very conservative estimate.

4) The number of stars that have planetary systems. The original extra-solar system planet hunting technology dictated that a star needed to be to close to us for a planet to be detected, usually by the stars 'wobble'. Better technology that allows us to measure the dimming of a stars brightness when a planet crosses its disk has now revolutionised planet hunting and new planets are being discovered at an ever increasing rate. So far (August 2003) around 100 have been discovered so we have very little data to work on for this estimate. Even so, most cosmologists believe that planetary formation around a star is quite common place. For the sake of argument let us say it's not and rate it at only one in a million and only one planet in each system, as we want a conservative estimate, not an exaggerated one. That calculation results in:

10,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe. Ten million, billion, as a conservative estimate.

5) The number planets capable of supporting life. Let's assume that this is very rare among planets and rate it at only one in a million. Simple division results in:

10,000,000,000 planets in the universe capable of producing life. Ten billion!
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:45 AM   #53
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i was have recently reading been reading the cosmos by carl sagan, and in later chapters he talks about the equation for the probability of lifeforms on other planets. The main deterrent for the equation is if intelligent societies can survive having nuclear power without destroying themselves, if they can, than it is very possible for ET's, if not, we are alone. Cuz it takes millions of years for intelligent life to develop. So they have to be out there now, or we are the intelligent life.
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:22 PM   #54
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Monty Python makes it easier to understand the complexity of the universe...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JWVshkVF0SY
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:47 PM   #55
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:51 PM   #56
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I'm not sure tbh. But what I do think is this, if they (aliens) are such a higher lifeforce then us, why would they even take interest in us. When you are walking down the road and you see a colony of ants you don't even consider them do you? Because they are insignificant to you, well IMO it makes sense to think that aliens would think that of us if they are so advanced.
Ya, but just because me or you wouldn't go study an ant colony doesn't mean someone else wouldn't. Everything on this planet has at least 1 person studying it, so why wouldn't that go for aliens?
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:38 PM   #57
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Yea, I believe there is something more out there, a friend of mine and myself seen some crazy shit in the white mountains of AZ. I wish i had a camera to capture what we saw still till this day.
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:53 PM   #58
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Yea, I believe there is something more out there, a friend of mine and myself seen some crazy shit in the white mountains of AZ. I wish i had a camera to capture what we saw still till this day.
Isn't that where the whole Fire in the Sky story came from?
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Old 05-08-2008, 04:42 PM   #59
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There is evidence of extraterrestrial life already. Remember that rock that was found buried in the Arctic which scientist said it was for Mars?

They say it had bacteria in it. That's proof enough that the Universe is full of life.
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Old 05-08-2008, 04:46 PM   #60
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Old 05-08-2008, 06:40 PM   #61
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The Drake equation.

where:

N is the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which we might hope to be able to communicate;

and

R* is the average rate of star formation in our galaxy
fp is the fraction of those stars that have planets
ne is the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
fℓ is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point
fi is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life
fc is the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space
L is the length of time such civilizations release detectable signals into space.

The number of stars in the galaxy now, N*, is related to the star formation rate R*

The problem is no one knows the true values of these variables. but given that there are 10 billion galaxies in our observable universe with roughly 10 billion solar systems, at least bacteria should be able to spawn somewhere.
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:23 PM   #62
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If anyone has 5 mins laying around, check this out, this has been documented as the greatest sightings of a UFO. this is truly remarkable.


youtube.com/watch?v=-FeAK-q5Cok

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Old 05-09-2008, 07:26 PM   #63
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^ if that isnt a UFO, i don't know what is
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:27 PM   #64
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No i don't. haven't seen one..
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:32 PM   #65
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Not this topic again. Booooooooring. GFY Search says their fake
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:34 PM   #66
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Were sorry your simple minded.
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:35 PM   #67
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Unidentified Flying Objects surely exist, so many have seen 'em...

I did.

What exactly they are, there's another question...

Are they proof of being visitied or surveyed or watched by extra-terrestrials? They aren't.

Do I believe in life other than on Earth... It only makes sense that there is.

Have they ever been here? My gut tells me yeah, my brain tells me no...
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:37 PM   #68
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Media guy, so you believe theres life on other planets, but US humans made anti-gravity propulsion systems to travel faster than the speed of light....HUMANS created that? Or we reversed enginered it from a craft out of this world ;)
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