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fris 05-01-2008 05:18 PM

i dont have anything attached to my account, its a gift account, with no load, and no bank account, and no credit card

crockett 05-01-2008 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 14138947)
All information once received are stored securely offline.
For you credit card you can block out the middle 8 digits on your statement you can block out the middle 8 digits of your card number and your transactions.

You guys are freaking crazy if you think I'd give you that kind of info.. Hell man, I don't even give the govt or my own fucking bank that much info. There is no reason in this world you guys could give me, to justify me giving you banking statements, CC statements ect..ect.

RayBonga 05-01-2008 06:05 PM

This sucks big time. Time to change back things to wire transfers for me.

Last time I checked epass was not located in the US, so that we have to comply with.. speech is bullshit. I don't go around sending the kind of information you're asking for to anyone. Much less a company like epass.

btw, since I'm keeping my money with you guys I would like for you to send me your gov ID with a photo, bills/banks copies and scans of your credit cards. Will you do this?

RayBonga 05-01-2008 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14139235)
You guys are freaking crazy if you think I'd give you that kind of info.. Hell man, I don't even give the govt or my own fucking bank that much info. There is no reason in this world you guys could give me, to justify me giving you banking statements, CC statements ect..ect.

ditto :thumbsup

:321GFY epass

Nikki_Licks 05-01-2008 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga (Post 14139350)
ditto :thumbsup

:321GFY epass

Precisely why I am now going to visa. These guys have no business getting this info and I am sure it is not required by law and any reason they might give is plain Bullshit.. This smells like stink in the shit house....for a better use of terms.

Statements like, "your information will be stored in a safe location is SHIT"! They can't even keep hackers from breaking accounts and now they want everyone to believe that they can handle such sensitive information......:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Fucking clowns :disgust

V_RocKs 05-01-2008 06:30 PM

The law is real. There is nothing Epassporte can do about it. This is the same info a foreign bank would ask me for.... for those of you that don't know it, Epassporte is in fact a foreign bank.

The scary part is that they stopped doing gambling payments.

Why? And why this request soon after?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=72

J. Falcon 05-01-2008 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes (Post 14138835)
you SUCK

No he doesn't. He's one of the best support individuals I've ever dealt with.

crockett 05-01-2008 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 14139394)
The law is real. There is nothing Epassporte can do about it. This is the same info a foreign bank would ask me for.... for those of you that don't know it, Epassporte is in fact a foreign bank.

The scary part is that they stopped doing gambling payments.

Why? And why this request soon after?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=72


Yea well a Foreign bank is going to have some sort of insurance on your money in case of fraud. You get ripped off from epass and you can just kiss that money goodbye.

Wizzo 05-01-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 14139394)
This is the same info a foreign bank would ask me for.... for those of you that don't know it, Epassporte is in fact a foreign bank.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Wizzo 05-01-2008 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14139408)
Yea well a Foreign bank is going to have some sort of insurance on your money in case of fraud. You get ripped off from epass and you can just kiss that money goodbye.

Really? How many of the top people in the biz has money stuck Curaçao? :upsidedow

HairToStay 05-01-2008 06:51 PM

ePassporte is a foreign bank?

Visa issues their virtual cards, so I understand this but why is the $5k received "over the years" the trigger? Why would Visa ask for information on people who have received over $5k during the past 5-6 years? The Virtual Visa card has nothing to do with how much goes into my account.

Chris 05-01-2008 07:05 PM

I dont see why i have to do this again
please explain WHY WE HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN IF WE HAVE IN PAST
you said your self the info is stored so you can just simply see ive already provided this

and where can we read more about your banks new rules?

Matt 26z 05-01-2008 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 14139394)
for those of you that don't know it, Epassporte is in fact a foreign bank.

Isn't that just on paper? Don't they opperate right out of California? I thought they did.

qwe 05-01-2008 07:28 PM

please answer me this, what happens if I don't send any info in 30 days? it will auto freeze after 30 days ? how long can I keep using my account and electron visa without verifying nothing ?

ps. i'm not going to verify it because you ask for way too much personal information, I had my account for a long time without any issues, i see no reason for asking all this

CaptainHowdy 05-01-2008 07:32 PM

I HEART MICHAEL O... Glad epass gave us some time to verify our accounts.

CDSmith 05-01-2008 07:46 PM

Poor Michael.

I don't envy you dude. What a clusterfuck the company you work for (and their bank) has you in right now.

Spunky 05-01-2008 07:50 PM

I had to do that when my account was compromised about 8 months ago..took me 15 minutes.I just looked in my upload documents and it said none were requested so I'm assuming I don't have to do it again

Chris 05-01-2008 07:57 PM

Sorta looks like a bunch of people who did not claim epass income are about to become fuckedddddddddddddddd

wyldblyss 05-01-2008 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 14138904)
We require the information asked for in your account.
Load Card attached to your account
ID
Front and back of credit card
Bank statement or utility bill with your name and address

This is not accurate. We have a load card attached to our account, but we are in Canada, so no U.S. bank account or anything like that. According to you, there is only 4 things we needed to provide. ID, Front of Card, Back of Card and Utility Bill...

but...instead they requested:
Copy of Credit/Debit Card (Back)
Copy of Credit/Debit Card (Front)
Copy of Credit Card Statement
Completed Form
Proof of Name and Address (utility bill)
Government Issued Photo ID


I do have questions:

1. I have emailed epassporte about 12 times over the years. In total I received only 1 reply which was responded to 3 months after I emailed. How will epassporte be able to process all of this information when they can't keep up with their current workload?

2. As I am sure you are aware, terms have different meanings to different people. I keep my jewelery in a "secure location", which is a safety deposit box at my bank. Others might consider a jewelery box with a lock on it secure, or under their mattress secure. What exactly does "secure" mean for epassporte? Does that mean a bank vault? Does that mean a locked filing cabinet in an open area? Does that mean an unlocked filing cabinet in an office with a standard easy to open lock?

3. Why could you not have told people to black out personal information PRIOR to asking for it? What about all of the people who have already breached their personal security to satisfy your request...how will they feel knowing they did not have to do this?

4. How do we go about removing load cards from our account? I read where someone no longer had their load card and your suggestion was to load another, what if people do not want to have a load card at all anymore?

5. What is epassporte going to do with all of the information requested, and then uploaded by people that you say they do not need (credit card numbers etc.) Will epassporte have a bonded individual blacking out this sensitive information prior to handing it out to the minimum wage club where a frenzy of personal information could set off an urge to steal people's information?

riddler 05-01-2008 09:07 PM

so the federal government of some nation has been coming after epass huh? (only speculation)

sounds like from the sudden worrying about anti-laundrying

Michael O 05-01-2008 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 14139122)
if i didnt et any message for verification then I am all good? I sent in a bunch of stuff on another account i had that i closed so i guess all good?

If you didn't get the request you don't need to send in any documents at this time.

Michael O 05-01-2008 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris (Post 14139153)
i dont have anything attached to my account, its a gift account, with no load, and no bank account, and no credit card

If you are asked for documents then only ID and a copy of a utility bill or bank statement is needed.

Michael O 05-01-2008 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 14139533)
please answer me this, what happens if I don't send any info in 30 days? it will auto freeze after 30 days ? how long can I keep using my account and electron visa without verifying nothing ?

ps. i'm not going to verify it because you ask for way too much personal information, I had my account for a long time without any issues, i see no reason for asking all this

If you don't want/can't send in the documents your account will be blocked when the 30 days is up. On your request we can turn the account into a spend only account then you can withdraw the money after that the account will be closed.

onlineriches 05-01-2008 09:27 PM

Michael, is epassporte PCI compliant? If so can you post proof of recent audits. Can you elaborate on the security precautions being taken to secure and safe guard this data, who has access to it and who is charge of maintaining the confidentiality and integrity of the data. I believe that will help some people feel more comfortable, if I do not see concrete proof of significant security safeguards in place I will be closing my account.

In my opinion anyone that sends all of those documents is fucked in the head and will get what they deserve.

I wouldn't trust them with keeping shit secure, 1 rogue employee or 1 security breach and you are all fucked, not just small time credit card fraud but things could get really nasty if this amount of data was compromised. The best of the best get hacked, what is epassporte doing to make me feel any different?

EVERYONE SAY NO AND REFUSE TO USE EPASS UNLESS WE SEE SOME CONCRETE PROOF OF SECURITY STANDARDS AND PROPER DATA PROTECTION & STORAGE.

Michael O 05-01-2008 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldblyss (Post 14139757)
This is not accurate. We have a load card attached to our account, but we are in Canada, so no U.S. bank account or anything like that. According to you, there is only 4 things we needed to provide. ID, Front of Card, Back of Card and Utility Bill...

but...instead they requested:
Copy of Credit/Debit Card (Back)
Copy of Credit/Debit Card (Front)
Copy of Credit Card Statement
Completed Form
Proof of Name and Address (utility bill)
Government Issued Photo ID


I do have questions:

1. I have emailed epassporte about 12 times over the years. In total I received only 1 reply which was responded to 3 months after I emailed. How will epassporte be able to process all of this information when they can't keep up with their current workload?

2. As I am sure you are aware, terms have different meanings to different people. I keep my jewelery in a "secure location", which is a safety deposit box at my bank. Others might consider a jewelery box with a lock on it secure, or under their mattress secure. What exactly does "secure" mean for epassporte? Does that mean a bank vault? Does that mean a locked filing cabinet in an open area? Does that mean an unlocked filing cabinet in an office with a standard easy to open lock?

3. Why could you not have told people to black out personal information PRIOR to asking for it? What about all of the people who have already breached their personal security to satisfy your request...how will they feel knowing they did not have to do this?

4. How do we go about removing load cards from our account? I read where someone no longer had their load card and your suggestion was to load another, what if people do not want to have a load card at all anymore?

5. What is epassporte going to do with all of the information requested, and then uploaded by people that you say they do not need (credit card numbers etc.) Will epassporte have a bonded individual blacking out this sensitive information prior to handing it out to the minimum wage club where a frenzy of personal information could set off an urge to steal people's information?

You need to send in the documents asked for in the form:
A photocopy of a valid government-issued photo ID
A copy of front and back of the credit/debit card most recently used on your ePassporte account
A copy of the most recent statement of the credit/debit card used to load funds to your ePassporte Account, or a copy of a utility bill if you do not have the credit/debit card statement with your name and address as shown on your ePassporte Account clearly displayed.

So either a statement or utility bill is required.

1) If you have not previously uploaded the documents through the document upload system you will need to submit the documents again.

2) I will find out if I can go into details about this.

3) Full documents are preferred if you are uncomfortable with this we will on a case by case basis allow documents with information blacked out.

4) If an account is opened with a credit card or an account attach a load card a valid credit card is required to be on file. Used load cards are kept on file in case if future CBs for example.

5) We have to keep the information on file for anti-money laundering/know your customer reasons any information will only be given our with a subpoena or court order, all documents are handled by trusted staff.

Michael O 05-01-2008 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riddler (Post 14139788)
so the federal government of some nation has been coming after epass huh? (only speculation)

sounds like from the sudden worrying about anti-laundrying

We are not the only company requiring this since its a requirement by our bank/Visa, other online wallets have/will request the same information to comply with rules and regulations.

v4 media 05-02-2008 12:16 AM

Paypal did it years ago when you go over $6k, not sure what all the hassle is about,
unfortunatley my bank wont let me use its cc to sign up for epassporte, so I can't get an account.

polish_aristocrat 05-02-2008 12:59 AM

will epassporte guest accounts be disallowed starting from now?

as you must be aware, guest-accounts were opened by other individuals for a certain individual and absolutely no verification on that individual was taking place

so I assume guests accounts won't be possible to open anymore?

fris 05-02-2008 01:22 AM

will be sending my documents today

SlammedMedia 05-02-2008 03:40 AM

I have a question! When can you stop making up phoney exchange rates and stealing money that's not yours?

Due 05-02-2008 03:57 AM

What will be the easiest way for me to comply when I use fake name and address, and the credits cards I use is stolen ? :helpme

Fabien 05-02-2008 04:08 AM

DON'T SEND ALL THIS INFO TO THEM !!!!!!!!
YOU ARE CRAZY IF YOU DO IT !!!!!!!!!!

Time to say bye bye to them, after all those years.

Where will it stop ? Tell me ?

If it's Visa hanging them by the balls well it's sad ...

YellowPages 05-02-2008 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 14139854)
We are not the only company requiring this since its a requirement by our bank/Visa, other online wallets have/will request the same information to comply with rules and regulations.

1) You are not answering the questions at hand.

2) What about accounts which were not started with a credit card, which now have an old card attached which is useless and there are no supporting docs for? Ie: Mastercards which you no longer accept for loads or are canceled or other?

Why?

I for one intentionally uploaded a card I was getting ready to cancel. The same with Paypal. I do not want to load money.

3) You are asking for some information that the American Government and US banks are not even allowed to ask for, by law. Why?

4) Please point us to some other company who is doing this, asking for what you are asking:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 14139854)
We are not the only company requiring this since its a requirement by our bank/Visa, other online wallets have/will request the same information to comply with rules and regulations.

Thank you for your consideration.

YP

YellowPages 05-02-2008 04:25 AM

Another question:

I do not have utility bills in my name in my country.

All bills are always in the landlord's name in this country, they just come to my door and I pay them.

What is your answer for all those roommates and spouses out there who have Epassporte accounts, yet who have no utility bills in their name?

I await your answer to this valid question.

Thank you.

YP

Ethersync 05-02-2008 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 14138833)
ePassporte is requesting specific documentation from Account Holders in an effort to comply with our bank?s Know Your Customer and Anti-Money Laundering policies.

We apologize for the inconvenience. If you require further information please email [email protected]

2 words: Patriot Act :disgust

RayBonga 05-02-2008 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 14139533)
please answer me this, what happens if I don't send any info in 30 days? it will auto freeze after 30 days ? how long can I keep using my account and electron visa without verifying nothing ?

ps. i'm not going to verify it because you ask for way too much personal information, I had my account for a long time without any issues, i see no reason for asking all this

They keep your money, I wonder how much they will make with this operation?

Jens Van Assterdam 05-02-2008 05:15 AM

Does this go for gift accounts too? How should i verify the cc it got opend up with when its not my CC but giftholders cc?

YellowPages 05-02-2008 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga (Post 14140566)
They keep your money, I wonder how much they will make with this operation?

A fucking lot.

Nice revenue generator. New twist on an old scam we've seen from many billing processors and even some sponsors in the past.

Scammers protecting valuable users from scammers :)

Valuable users = account holders who have had $5,000 + moved through the system for years with little or no issues, all the while generating valid and substantial revenue for ePassporte.

Valuable users also = valid and valuable ePass revenue that will be lost in a short term "smash and grab" run, cloaked by reason of a noble cause.

Can you make a lot of sense to that?

YP

DWB 05-02-2008 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 14139394)
This is the same info a foreign bank would ask me for.... for those of you that don't know it, Epassporte is in fact a foreign bank.

A foreign bank with the worst customer service in the world. :2 cents:

I have bank accounts literally all over the world and can say that I can get a response from any one of them within 5 minutes or less. They don't blow me off and ignore all inquiries.

Ya'll are begging to get fucked on this one. If they want to be a bank, let them offer the same customer service and security a bank does. I can't remember the last time someone hacked my bank account and ripped me off.

Michael O 05-02-2008 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellowPages (Post 14140489)
Another question:

I do not have utility bills in my name in my country.

All bills are always in the landlord's name in this country, they just come to my door and I pay them.

What is your answer for all those roommates and spouses out there who have Epassporte accounts, yet who have no utility bills in their name?

I await your answer to this valid question.

Thank you.

YP

If you have questions about your account please email me.


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