|   |   |   | ||||
| Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. | 
|    | 
| 
 | |||||||
| Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. | 
|  | Thread Tools | 
|  04-26-2008, 10:39 AM | #1 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad 
					Posts: 5,196
				 | 
				
				can cops let themself in and arrest people?
			 This is a video of last night. The cops let them self in the house and arrest people after everyone told them to leave. Yeah we were drunk and stupid, but do you guys think they can generally do this? This video was after they grabbed the guy who answered the door and pulled him outside by his shirt and arrested him. The cop at the end is coming up to me to arrest me. He arrested me for resisting arrest. https://youtube.com/watch?v=HFl-YN26kw8 Also, this was on a noise complaint. 
				__________________ . | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 10:43 AM | #2 | 
| The Dupre Pimp Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Koh Samui 
					Posts: 6,677
				 | wait a min.. they just stepped into your house without ANY reason and started to arrest one after another? LOL.. welcome to america i guess   
				__________________ Read TOS for signature rules | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 10:51 AM | #3 | 
| North Coast Pimp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 304-534-757 
					Posts: 9,395
				 | That is not good mang... Not good at all! | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 10:55 AM | #4 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON 
					Posts: 5,247
				 | I think they have to have really good probable cause that a crime is being committed inside. 
				__________________ ICQ: 91139591 | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 10:58 AM | #5 | 
| HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane 
					Posts: 20,419
				 | they figure you wont go to court.. spend the money, get a good attorney and fuck them in the ass... | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 10:59 AM | #6 | 
| Geo Cities Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Captiva Island, Florida USA 
					Posts: 11,835
				 | The guy who shot that video should have been arrested for producing such crap  
				__________________ Make a Free Chaturbate White Label site in 34 minutes and be making money tonight   | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 11:02 AM | #7 | |
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad 
					Posts: 5,196
				 | Quote: 
  
				__________________ . | |
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 11:14 AM | #9 | 
| So Fucking Banned Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal 
					Posts: 107,089
				 | Obviously they can, Whether it will hold up is another thing altogether. I would love to read the police report. They are usually quite entertaining. | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 11:19 AM | #10 | 
| Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area 
					Posts: 38,323
				 | What was the charge against you? Personally it seems like you guys were pretty under control, however if the police are called in on a complaint of a loud party, I'm pretty sure that they can shut down the party and ask people that don't live there to leave. Several parties I was at during college ended abruptly that way...  Someone made a good point though - the cops are telling people to leave that have been drinking. Wouldn't it be better to have them sleep it off inside the house before driving? In my case, since I lived right by campus, I walked to most of the parties anyway. I wonder what if any liability the police would have if they ordered a person to leave that was drunk, and then that person got into an accident and hurt themself/others... ADG | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 11:27 AM | #11 | |
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad 
					Posts: 5,196
				 | Quote: 
 He told us to get in our cars and drive home. It sounded like instant DUI's to us so no one was willing. I was arrested for "resisting arrest". Later they added "inmate of a disorderly house", that one does seam valid to me. Pending the disorderly house charges stands. Obviously it was added on in an attempt to cover their asses. My issue is them letting them self in the house. Them grabbing the guy who answers the door and pulling him outside. Pretty fucked up. 
				__________________ . | |
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 11:43 AM | #12 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2006 Location: NY 
					Posts: 14,800
				 | don't you need a warrent to enter someones house, or is that only in england? or is that too search? i have no idea 
				__________________ $$$$$ MAKE HUGE MONEY IN CAMS - CLICK HERE $$$$$ | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 11:59 AM | #13 | |
| Ah My Balls Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 
					Posts: 14,311
				 | So they arrested you for resisting arrest... then tacked some bullshit on? man I love our freedoms. Why were they there? And no they can not do this without a warrant or really good probable cause like someone is dying. Quote: 
 
				__________________   | |
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 12:01 PM | #14 | |
| Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 
					Posts: 293
				 | Quote: 
 1. You get someone to "go outside to talk to the cops" 2. Have someone ready to slam the door and lock it behind the guy ASAP so the cops cant barge in. 3. Allow the guy back in only after the cops leave. If you have a back/side door use that to come out and talk to the cops. Catches them offguard a little. | |
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 12:08 PM | #15 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2001 
					Posts: 1,027
				 | Of course they can. You live in a Police State. Welcome to the new world order. | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 12:21 PM | #16 | |
| Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area 
					Posts: 38,323
				 | Be happy that they didn't shoot 50 rounds at you guys...   You might want to read this: A Lincoln Police Department General Order Regarding Party Complaints Quote: 
  ADG | |
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 12:38 PM | #17 | 
| rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ 
					Posts: 23,088
				 | take the video to court.......the cop lost his cool you've got a case for harassment, false arrest, all kinda shit consult with a lawyer first thing Monday morning also tell your friend not to post bail, or sign himself out until he gets the lawyer no signatures on shit! 
				__________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)   | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 12:40 PM | #18 | 
| Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom 
					Posts: 38,683
				 | Vid not showing for me | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 01:03 PM | #19 | |
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless 
					Posts: 62,911
				 | Quote: 
 Get your self an attorney, and sue them. 
				__________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com | Angeles Cid | Mariana Cordoba | MAILERS WELCOME! | |
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 01:17 PM | #20 | |
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad 
					Posts: 5,196
				 | Quote: 
 Yeah according to that pdf it says it has to be a felony. Even using controlled subtances or minors drinking will NOT allow them to come in. Going to contact a lawyer on monday and should at very least get the charges dropped 
				__________________ . | |
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 01:18 PM | #21 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL 
					Posts: 8,452
				 | They can do whatever they want.  The put 50 bullets into an unarmed man in NY awhile ago and got off scott free. | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 01:22 PM | #22 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto 
					Posts: 2,727
				 | Talk to a good lawyer.  Cops are scumbags who will do and say whatever they want.  They get caught up in the moment. I love living in Canada with parents who went to highschool / univ with the oldschool top local lawyers. 
				__________________   | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 01:43 PM | #23 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ****Houston *** 
					Posts: 628
				 | you only have rights in court. Until then they do what they want. Get a lawyer. I bet they will drop the charges so they won't have to lie in court. | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 02:32 PM | #24 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Texas 
					Posts: 778
				 | Wrong!!! You had your rights the day you took your first breath maybe even before then. http://www.flexyourrights.org | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 03:09 PM | #25 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI 
					Posts: 2,490
				 | you mean you didn't know we gave up every last one of our civil rights for the sake of homeland security? We have absolutely no rights anymore. I had my ass absolutely kicked by a cop, head bashed into a wall AND tazed all right after opening the door for a cop he immediately rushed in and got hit with the felony version of resisting arrest which was plead down. I couldn't do shit because when it comes down to my word vs 1 or 2 cops guess who wins every time? Fact is you don't have what happened before on camera and what was actually seen you can't do shit. DA should obviously not want to bother with that BS but you have to remember in court what a cop says/writes in a report is damn near impossible to reverse. 
				__________________ -- QUOTE ME IT MAKES ME FEEL SPECIAL -- | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 03:45 PM | #26 | 
| best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 
					Posts: 30,307
				 | Get an attorney. Might be able to file on the county for the police assaulting the people arrested. Forcefully pulling people out the door to arrest them is not within the law. Ya could have thier badges. The video footage covers it all as proof. 
				__________________   NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! | The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily | Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 |ICQ: 78943384 | | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 03:53 PM | #27 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CA 
					Posts: 101
				 | That's disturbing and appalling. Handle your shit, take 'em to court! 
				__________________ ICQ: 468-855-038 | AIM: xthesixthfloorx | I'm awesome. | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 04:24 PM | #28 | |
| Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CA 
					Posts: 101
				 | Quote: 
 
				__________________ ICQ: 468-855-038 | AIM: xthesixthfloorx | I'm awesome. | |
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 04:33 PM | #29 | 
| Do Fun Shit. Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC 
					Posts: 13,393
				 | Still lil unclear about what happened with first guy, but whole situation looks pretty fucked from the tape 
				__________________  “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 04:41 PM | #30 | 
| Porn Pusher Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: It's a dry heat 
					Posts: 13,344
				 | They can even knock the door down and arrest your whole family too 
				__________________ | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 06:30 PM | #31 | ||
| Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 
					Posts: 1,653
				 | Quote: 
 Quote: 
 A better approach is to chain the door beforehand, and then open it a crack to talk with the officer. Simple as that. Don't let them in for any reason, but on the other hand try to assist them in solving the problem - ie. if they're out there for a noise complaint, turn the volume down / end the party; call it a night. Ron 
				__________________ Domagon - Website Management and Domain Name Sales | ||
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 06:32 PM | #32 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Your Mum's House 
					Posts: 1,036
				 | Becoming a norm now that your consitution and bill of rights are on par with toilet paper... 
				__________________ $8.35 High-Usage Adult Hosting: 510GB Storage + 5010GB Bandwidth + SQL + SSL + Free Domain With Whois Privacy. Use this Coupon Code for extra 25GB Storage Space when you join: 25freegb | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 08:51 PM | #33 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 
					Posts: 449
				 | It really doesn't matter what you believe or the fact that you have video, that is number one. They entered on probable cause. Probable cause is when there is a complaint and the police have seen enough evidence to justify the complaint, or have seen enough evidence for further investigation. So if you and your friends were drinking, a neighbor called police lets say and the cop that knocked on the door saw anything to support the call to police he had the right to enter the house. That is the bottom line. If the police got out of line, lets say they got violent with you guys then that is something else. But just entering the house, they were following the law and trying to prove otherwise will cost you more than its worth. Believe me when I tell you, don't fuck with the police, they have judges, DA's and all kinds of shit that will back them up to avoid suit if need be. I've had my fair share of run ins with these bastards from growing up in the city. And let me tell you, its more trouble than its worth. They all stick together and unless you have an obscene amount of money to make a political mess out of this its better to walk away. | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 09:00 PM | #34 | |
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: AZ 
					Posts: 7,697
				 | Quote: 
 looks like no one in the video told him to get out though if you take that video to court all charges will be dropped | |
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 09:01 PM | #35 | |
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: AZ 
					Posts: 7,697
				 | Quote: 
 you're wrong idiot | |
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 09:08 PM | #36 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 
					Posts: 449
				 | You should have been a lawyer then! My answer was frank. I don't know where you are from or what your experiences have been but I can tell you from growing up in Daly City that cops are bastards. And it doesn't matter what your believe, at the end of the day it will all be bullshit and a waste of time. If you have money then that is great, but if this guy had money he wouldn't be posting on gfy. He'd already have his lawyer on their ass. It can go either way, it just depends on how far you're willing to take it and that in it self depends on how much money you're willing to fork out. | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 09:47 PM | #37 | 
| In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska 
					Posts: 40,149
				 | fuck the lincoln police | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 10:02 PM | #38 | 
| lurker Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta 
					Posts: 57,021
				 | I would talk to a lawyer. | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 11:09 PM | #39 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canby, OR 
					Posts: 7,453
				 | I'd say get a lawyer, because they need to be invited in or they need to feel that lives are in danger at some point.  Like somebody had a heart attack and nobody is opening the door.  They can freely enter.  Like a few months ago I had a friends soon to be ex wife crashing on my couch.  She called a crisis line and said she wanted to die or what not and so they called the cops and once the door was open they were inside. I didn't invite them in, but then again i wanted them to haul her off!  And I was very polite with them mentioned that I all my "deadly" weapons were in the living room (basically nice swords) and they joked around.  Now I hate most cops, and hate their attitudes but put up with these two for the fact they were taking a problem off my hand. But totally get a attorney and see about getting EVERYTHING dropped. 
				__________________ NSCash now powering ReelProfits.com ALSO FEATURING: NSCash.com :: SoloDollars.com :: ReelProfits.com :: BiminiBucks.com :: VOD PROGRAMS COMING SOON: Greedy Bucks :: Vengeance Cash NOW OFFERING OVER 60 SITES CONTACT :: JAMES SMITH :: CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER :: ICQ (711385133) | 
|   |           | 
|  04-26-2008, 11:25 PM | #40 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canby, OR 
					Posts: 7,453
				 | Actually within the first 15 seconds it was said   
				__________________ NSCash now powering ReelProfits.com ALSO FEATURING: NSCash.com :: SoloDollars.com :: ReelProfits.com :: BiminiBucks.com :: VOD PROGRAMS COMING SOON: Greedy Bucks :: Vengeance Cash NOW OFFERING OVER 60 SITES CONTACT :: JAMES SMITH :: CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER :: ICQ (711385133) | 
|   |           | 
|  04-27-2008, 02:20 PM | #41 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad 
					Posts: 5,196
				 | Yeah, we pretty much started arguing with him because he refused to get out.  The first guy was arrested when he answered the door. They told him to open the screen door and step outside and he refused. The cop then opened the door and pulled him out and cuffed him. 
				__________________ . | 
|   |           | 
|  04-27-2008, 02:26 PM | #42 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston 
					Posts: 5,651
				 | I know in some cities police can enter a house if the have suspicion underage drinking is going on. | 
|   |           | 
|  04-27-2008, 02:47 PM | #43 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2001 
					Posts: 9,240
				 | they can enter the house if they have any solid reason to believe a crime is in commission.  Legally. | 
|   |           | 
|  04-27-2008, 02:48 PM | #44 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston 
					Posts: 5,651
				 | No offense... I just watched the video.  the video didn't show much except for the cop telling everyone to leave.  People didn't comply and on top of that, people were cursing at the police. fuck this fuck that will not go over very well with them and especially when they know drinking is going on.  as soon as he started to arrest the one guy, you made a crowd around the cop, and even someone was holding a guy back. Now if you had left... they probably would have got you for a public intoxication... Another thing: http://www.google.com/search?q=linco...ient=firefox-a first link for me is about Lincoln cracking down on underage drinking, their "party patrol", it even goes into plain clothes officers go to parties and bust for underage drinking or selling cups to get into them. So obviously it doesn't have to be a felony as you said for the police to come in. | 
|   |           | 
|  04-27-2008, 04:16 PM | #45 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta 
					Posts: 6,801
				 | So a crime was committed... maybe next time your friends should try complying with the officers instead of being douche bags and yelling at them? Your video certainly isn't going to help your case. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disturbing_the_peace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disorderly_conduct | 
|   |           |