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can cops let themself in and arrest people?
This is a video of last night. The cops let them self in the house and arrest people after everyone told them to leave. Yeah we were drunk and stupid, but do you guys think they can generally do this?
This video was after they grabbed the guy who answered the door and pulled him outside by his shirt and arrested him. The cop at the end is coming up to me to arrest me. He arrested me for resisting arrest. https://youtube.com/watch?v=HFl-YN26kw8 Also, this was on a noise complaint. |
wait a min.. they just stepped into your house without ANY reason and started to arrest one after another? LOL.. welcome to america i guess :)
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That is not good mang... Not good at all!
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I think they have to have really good probable cause that a crime is being committed inside.
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they figure you wont go to court.. spend the money, get a good attorney and fuck them in the ass...
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The guy who shot that video should have been arrested for producing such crap:disgust
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Any decent lawyer should be able to get most of the charges dropped.
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Obviously they can, Whether it will hold up is another thing altogether.
I would love to read the police report. They are usually quite entertaining. |
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Personally it seems like you guys were pretty under control, however if the police are called in on a complaint of a loud party, I'm pretty sure that they can shut down the party and ask people that don't live there to leave. Several parties I was at during college ended abruptly that way... :upsidedow Someone made a good point though - the cops are telling people to leave that have been drinking. Wouldn't it be better to have them sleep it off inside the house before driving? In my case, since I lived right by campus, I walked to most of the parties anyway. I wonder what if any liability the police would have if they ordered a person to leave that was drunk, and then that person got into an accident and hurt themself/others... ADG |
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He told us to get in our cars and drive home. It sounded like instant DUI's to us so no one was willing. I was arrested for "resisting arrest". Later they added "inmate of a disorderly house", that one does seam valid to me. Pending the disorderly house charges stands. Obviously it was added on in an attempt to cover their asses. My issue is them letting them self in the house. Them grabbing the guy who answers the door and pulling him outside. Pretty fucked up. |
don't you need a warrent to enter someones house, or is that only in england? or is that too search? i have no idea
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So they arrested you for resisting arrest... then tacked some bullshit on? man I love our freedoms.
Why were they there? And no they can not do this without a warrant or really good probable cause like someone is dying. Quote:
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1. You get someone to "go outside to talk to the cops" 2. Have someone ready to slam the door and lock it behind the guy ASAP so the cops cant barge in. 3. Allow the guy back in only after the cops leave. If you have a back/side door use that to come out and talk to the cops. Catches them offguard a little. |
Of course they can. You live in a Police State. Welcome to the new world order.
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Be happy that they didn't shoot 50 rounds at you guys... :upsidedow
You might want to read this: A Lincoln Police Department General Order Regarding Party Complaints Quote:
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take the video to court.......the cop lost his cool
you've got a case for harassment, false arrest, all kinda shit consult with a lawyer first thing Monday morning also tell your friend not to post bail, or sign himself out until he gets the lawyer no signatures on shit! |
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Get your self an attorney, and sue them. |
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Yeah according to that pdf it says it has to be a felony. Even using controlled subtances or minors drinking will NOT allow them to come in. Going to contact a lawyer on monday and should at very least get the charges dropped |
They can do whatever they want. The put 50 bullets into an unarmed man in NY awhile ago and got off scott free.
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Talk to a good lawyer. Cops are scumbags who will do and say whatever they want. They get caught up in the moment.
I love living in Canada with parents who went to highschool / univ with the oldschool top local lawyers. |
you only have rights in court. Until then they do what they want. Get a lawyer. I bet they will drop the charges so they won't have to lie in court.
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you mean you didn't know we gave up every last one of our civil rights for the sake of homeland security?
We have absolutely no rights anymore. I had my ass absolutely kicked by a cop, head bashed into a wall AND tazed all right after opening the door for a cop he immediately rushed in and got hit with the felony version of resisting arrest which was plead down. I couldn't do shit because when it comes down to my word vs 1 or 2 cops guess who wins every time? Fact is you don't have what happened before on camera and what was actually seen you can't do shit. DA should obviously not want to bother with that BS but you have to remember in court what a cop says/writes in a report is damn near impossible to reverse. |
Get an attorney.
Might be able to file on the county for the police assaulting the people arrested. Forcefully pulling people out the door to arrest them is not within the law. Ya could have thier badges. The video footage covers it all as proof. |
That's disturbing and appalling. Handle your shit, take 'em to court!
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Still lil unclear about what happened with first guy, but whole situation looks pretty fucked from the tape
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They can even knock the door down and arrest your whole family too
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A better approach is to chain the door beforehand, and then open it a crack to talk with the officer. Simple as that. Don't let them in for any reason, but on the other hand try to assist them in solving the problem - ie. if they're out there for a noise complaint, turn the volume down / end the party; call it a night. Ron |
Becoming a norm now that your consitution and bill of rights are on par with toilet paper...
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It really doesn't matter what you believe or the fact that you have video, that is number one. They entered on probable cause. Probable cause is when there is a complaint and the police have seen enough evidence to justify the complaint, or have seen enough evidence for further investigation. So if you and your friends were drinking, a neighbor called police lets say and the cop that knocked on the door saw anything to support the call to police he had the right to enter the house. That is the bottom line. If the police got out of line, lets say they got violent with you guys then that is something else. But just entering the house, they were following the law and trying to prove otherwise will cost you more than its worth. Believe me when I tell you, don't fuck with the police, they have judges, DA's and all kinds of shit that will back them up to avoid suit if need be.
I've had my fair share of run ins with these bastards from growing up in the city. And let me tell you, its more trouble than its worth. They all stick together and unless you have an obscene amount of money to make a political mess out of this its better to walk away. |
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looks like no one in the video told him to get out though if you take that video to court all charges will be dropped |
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you're wrong idiot |
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fuck the lincoln police
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I would talk to a lawyer.
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I'd say get a lawyer, because they need to be invited in or they need to feel that lives are in danger at some point. Like somebody had a heart attack and nobody is opening the door. They can freely enter. Like a few months ago I had a friends soon to be ex wife crashing on my couch. She called a crisis line and said she wanted to die or what not and so they called the cops and once the door was open they were inside.
I didn't invite them in, but then again i wanted them to haul her off! :1orglaugh And I was very polite with them mentioned that I all my "deadly" weapons were in the living room (basically nice swords) and they joked around. Now I hate most cops, and hate their attitudes but put up with these two for the fact they were taking a problem off my hand. But totally get a attorney and see about getting EVERYTHING dropped. |
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The first guy was arrested when he answered the door. They told him to open the screen door and step outside and he refused. The cop then opened the door and pulled him out and cuffed him. |
I know in some cities police can enter a house if the have suspicion underage drinking is going on.
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they can enter the house if they have any solid reason to believe a crime is in commission. Legally.
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No offense... I just watched the video. the video didn't show much except for the cop telling everyone to leave. People didn't comply and on top of that, people were cursing at the police. fuck this fuck that will not go over very well with them and especially when they know drinking is going on. as soon as he started to arrest the one guy, you made a crowd around the cop, and even someone was holding a guy back.
Now if you had left... they probably would have got you for a public intoxication... Another thing: http://www.google.com/search?q=linco...ient=firefox-a first link for me is about Lincoln cracking down on underage drinking, their "party patrol", it even goes into plain clothes officers go to parties and bust for underage drinking or selling cups to get into them. So obviously it doesn't have to be a felony as you said for the police to come in. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disturbing_the_peace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disorderly_conduct |
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