4FreeBucks vs. FreeEzineBucks vs. Join4Free - GoFuckYourself.com

m0rph3us · 10-13-2002, 02:49 PM

Which one converts better on niche filtered traffic?

4FreeBucks claim they are better than the rest because they don't shave on clicks and have 0 deductions.

Design-wise, freeezinebucks & join4free seem to be the best.

Cal · 10-13-2002, 02:54 PM

Check out CE's new magazines too, they pay more with the upsells. I haven't used them but the extra 50¢ and upsells allows for quite a bit of shaving/deductions before it'd make you less money.

http://www.cecash.com/cemags.html

C.

m0rph3us · 10-13-2002, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cal
Check out CE's new magazines too, they pay more with the upsells. I haven't used them but the extra 50¢ and upsells allows for quite a bit of shaving/deductions before it'd make you less money.

http://www.cecash.com/cemags.html

C.

hmm that looks good less popups than the other 3 programs but $1.50 per email? Aren't we pushing it a little bit?

I wonder what the shaving % is on their program

Pipecrew · 10-13-2002, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by m0rph3us

hmm that looks good less popups than the other 3 programs but $1.50 per email? Aren't we pushing it a little bit?

I wonder what the shaving % is on their program

about 30%........ wanna know what will drive you nuts?

seeing 100 submissions and 40 confirms

B.Diker · 10-13-2002, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew

about 30%........ wanna know what will drive you nuts?

seeing 100 submissions and 40 confirms

why they do that shaving .?

SpeakEasy · 10-13-2002, 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by B.Diker

why they do that shaving .?

Because NOTHING is really free...everyone pays the price

Libertine · 10-13-2002, 03:56 PM

It doesn't really matter who shaves the most, who pays the most per email, who gets most deductions or who converts the best... only thing that matters in the end is who brings in most money. For me, that's CEMags.

m0rph3us · 10-13-2002, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
It doesn't really matter who shaves the most, who pays the most per email, who gets most deductions or who converts the best... only thing that matters in the end is who brings in most money. For me, that's CEMags.

I guess you're right man. I'm just trying to filter the best opportunities and have the least number of variations to try ya know? I guess I'll try each one and see how they do!

RMG · 10-13-2002, 04:04 PM

Kinda sad that webmasters today simply accept shaving as part of the job.

<IMX> · 10-13-2002, 04:08 PM

With CE Mags you have to have an "active subscriber," to get paid. Their def of an active subscriber is a members who stays 7 days and does not cancel or credit.

m0rph3us · 10-13-2002, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by <IMX>
With CE Mags you have to have an "active subscriber," to get paid. Their def of an active subscriber is a members who stays 7 days and does not cancel or credit.

thanks. 4FreeBucks claims they don't have any deductions so I'm guessing they don't have a similar rule?

Spoonie Luv · 10-13-2002, 07:10 PM

wow, less popups? I'd hate to see the popups on the other ones...

chodadog · 10-13-2002, 07:39 PM

CE Mags don't shave. When you get 100 submissions and only 40 confirmations.. That's 'cause the majority of people submit a fake email addresss hoping to get into the site. I had similar numbers with the Gamma Cash mailers as well.

If you specify that they need to confirm their emails, and to use a valid address, the ratio of submitted to confirmed wouldn't be so fucked.

<IMX> · 10-13-2002, 07:54 PM

4freebucks and FreeEzine are different style programs from CE Mags.

To make a long story short you can compare 4freebucks and FreeEzine to per-sign programs and CE Mag to a rev share program.

So, you are not going to get the same "conversion" stats with CE Mags, but you get a % of the upsales. Therefore the "member areas" probably have vastly different philosophies as well.

You get it? Hope that helps.

Nikkey · 10-13-2002, 09:19 PM

4freebucks sucks, they dont pay on time....they still owe me a check from like august....and they have bad webmaster support. I had to email them at least twice all the time before they would respond to my "missing money" So i stopped promoting them and have moved on to 4free Ezines!

Flynn · 10-13-2002, 09:22 PM

FreeEzineBucks.
Great program with great people behind it.
-Errol

pimplink · 10-13-2002, 09:23 PM

For every $1 - 1.50 you get from these types of sponsors THEY get the following:

1) email -- direct marketing
2) confirm pages
3) email confirmation -- another advertising opp
4) 4 daily newsletters --with little to no content--just straight sell
5) 2 exit consoles
6) FPAs when the user logs on to the 'free' site
7) basically the whole 'free" site is an ad

Id say its a good deal that's why some old FEB affiliates started freesmutworld.com and a host of other similar sites since they see the whole value of this business model.

49thParallel · 10-13-2002, 09:26 PM

CEMags are definately a different strategy. From what I can tell, as soon as you enter the "Free" site, it asks you to download a plug-in, which appears to be a dialer. So, you can either promote CEMags or you can do something similar...walk into people's homes and steal their valuables...both require about the same morals...

Lexxx · 10-13-2002, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimplink
For every $1 - 1.50 you get from these types of sponsors THEY get the following:

1) email -- direct marketing
2) confirm pages
3) email confirmation -- another advertising opp
4) 4 daily newsletters --with little to no content--just straight sell
5) 2 exit consoles
6) FPAs when the user logs on to the 'free' site
7) basically the whole 'free" site is an ad

Id say its a good deal that's why some old FEB affiliates started freesmutworld.com and a host of other similar sites since they see the whole value of this business model.

Their profit margins are NOT that high, belive me. With no deductions and with surfers who would NOT pull out their CC no matter how many times you try to sell them something. Volume is again the key here.

Lexxx · 10-13-2002, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by B.Diker

why they do that shaving .?

They don't shave...

But they really should NOT show some ppl here submission vs confirm ratios... too much data is too much for some to take...

<IMX> · 10-13-2002, 11:09 PM

What are some other e-mail collection programs besides:
wegcash
4freebucks
freeEzineBucks
CeMags
Pink4Free
??

m0rph3us · 10-13-2002, 11:14 PM

I think gammae had a program teensbymail or something from back in the day. anyway I think I'll give 4freebucks a shot and see how they do and them maybe move to freeezinebucks.

Pete · 10-14-2002, 04:44 AM

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about 30%........ wanna know what will drive you nuts?

seeing 100 submissions and 40 confirms

I have my own 4free sites with 2 different software programs and I see those type of numbers all the time. Not sure why surfers add there email and then not confirm but they do.

As for the shaving part, I cant say who does or not.

Evil1 · 10-14-2002, 04:52 AM

Fuck em all, check my sig

fantasyman · 10-14-2002, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lexxx

They don't shave...

But they really should NOT show some ppl here submission vs confirm ratios... too much data is too much for some to take...

thank you

0zzy · 10-18-2002, 09:58 AM

In the email market, it's like per sign-up market. The biggest triky part is in the Terms and Conditions (TOC).

Some sponsor doesn't pay on every countries.

Some sponsor doesn't pay on yahoo, hotmail or aol or any other free mail program like that.

Some sponsor doesn't have email box. Than they put 10 popups on their sites when you don't get paid on those.

So those three points change totally the result you will get and how much money you make. Please read the TOC before promoting a program.

Some webmaster wonder why GammaCash pay only $0.45 per confirmed emails compare to others that pay up to $1 on email box. It's very simple, 1st it's a email box and we send the traffic back to your site afterthey had sign-up. 2nd, We pay on every emails no matter which program they us as yahoo, hotmail, aol or any other free programs. Also we pay on every countries even china.

The best thing to, I'm not saying use all my program because it's the best. I would prefer to say test most of them that are out there and see which one is being the most honest with you and bring you the most money.

Enjoy!! It was just my

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10-13-2002, 02:49 PM	#1
m0rph3us Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Principality of Sealand Posts: 2,033	4FreeBucks vs. FreeEzineBucks vs. Join4Free Which one converts better on niche filtered traffic? 4FreeBucks claim they are better than the rest because they don't shave on clicks and have 0 deductions. Design-wise, freeezinebucks & join4free seem to be the best. __________________ <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><a href="http://www.18blowjobs.com/webmasters/?640" target="_blank">Get paid $25 per signup</a> listing over <a href="http://galleries.18blowjobs.com/hosted.html" target="_blank">100 free hosted video galleries</a> - <a href="http://www.18blowjobs.com/webmasters/?640" target="_blank">Check it</a> » </font>

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10-13-2002, 04:08 PM	#10
<IMX> Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,728	With CE Mags you have to have an "active subscriber," to get paid. Their def of an active subscriber is a members who stays 7 days and does not cancel or credit. __________________ $$$ Check out NICHE PAY the leader of Micro Niche Sites! They offer $1 Trials! $$$ $$$ Check out 10 FREE TRIAL SALES equals 1 FREE LAP TOP ! $$$

10-13-2002, 07:54 PM	#14
<IMX> Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,728	4freebucks and FreeEzine are different style programs from CE Mags. To make a long story short you can compare 4freebucks and FreeEzine to per-sign programs and CE Mag to a rev share program. So, you are not going to get the same "conversion" stats with CE Mags, but you get a % of the upsales. Therefore the "member areas" probably have vastly different philosophies as well. You get it? Hope that helps. __________________ $$$ Check out NICHE PAY the leader of Micro Niche Sites! They offer $1 Trials! $$$ $$$ Check out 10 FREE TRIAL SALES equals 1 FREE LAP TOP ! $$$

10-13-2002, 09:22 PM	#16
Flynn pr0's goat screwed me Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,083	FreeEzineBucks. Great program with great people behind it. -Errol __________________ blah blah blah

10-13-2002, 02:54 PM	#2
Cal Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 72	Check out CE's new magazines too, they pay more with the upsells. I haven't used them but the extra 50¢ and upsells allows for quite a bit of shaving/deductions before it'd make you less money. http://www.cecash.com/cemags.html C.

10-13-2002, 04:04 PM	#9
RMG Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 542	Kinda sad that webmasters today simply accept shaving as part of the job.

10-13-2002, 07:10 PM	#12
Spoonie Luv Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Crankerville Posts: 1,003	wow, less popups? I'd hate to see the popups on the other ones...

10-13-2002, 07:39 PM	#13
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	CE Mags don't shave. When you get 100 submissions and only 40 confirmations.. That's 'cause the majority of people submit a fake email addresss hoping to get into the site. I had similar numbers with the Gamma Cash mailers as well. If you specify that they need to confirm their emails, and to use a valid address, the ratio of submitted to confirmed wouldn't be so fucked.

10-13-2002, 09:19 PM	#15
Nikkey Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 35	4freebucks sucks, they dont pay on time....they still owe me a check from like august....and they have bad webmaster support. I had to email them at least twice all the time before they would respond to my "missing money" So i stopped promoting them and have moved on to 4free Ezines!

10-13-2002, 09:23 PM	#17
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	For every $1 - 1.50 you get from these types of sponsors THEY get the following: 1) email -- direct marketing 2) confirm pages 3) email confirmation -- another advertising opp 4) 4 daily newsletters --with little to no content--just straight sell 5) 2 exit consoles 6) FPAs when the user logs on to the 'free' site 7) basically the whole 'free" site is an ad Id say its a good deal that's why some old FEB affiliates started freesmutworld.com and a host of other similar sites since they see the whole value of this business model.

10-13-2002, 09:26 PM	#18
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	CEMags are definately a different strategy. From what I can tell, as soon as you enter the "Free" site, it asks you to download a plug-in, which appears to be a dialer. So, you can either promote CEMags or you can do something similar...walk into people's homes and steal their valuables...both require about the same morals...

10-13-2002, 11:09 PM	#21
<IMX> Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,728	What are some other e-mail collection programs besides: wegcash 4freebucks freeEzineBucks CeMags Pink4Free ?? __________________ $$$ Check out NICHE PAY the leader of Micro Niche Sites! They offer $1 Trials! $$$ $$$ Check out 10 FREE TRIAL SALES equals 1 FREE LAP TOP ! $$$

10-13-2002, 11:14 PM	#22
m0rph3us Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Principality of Sealand Posts: 2,033	I think gammae had a program teensbymail or something from back in the day. anyway I think I'll give 4freebucks a shot and see how they do and them maybe move to freeezinebucks. __________________ <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><a href="http://www.18blowjobs.com/webmasters/?640" target="_blank">Get paid $25 per signup</a> listing over <a href="http://galleries.18blowjobs.com/hosted.html" target="_blank">100 free hosted video galleries</a> - <a href="http://www.18blowjobs.com/webmasters/?640" target="_blank">Check it</a> » </font>

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10-18-2002, 09:58 AM	#26
0zzy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Posts: 505	In the email market, it's like per sign-up market. The biggest triky part is in the Terms and Conditions (TOC). Some sponsor doesn't pay on every countries. Some sponsor doesn't pay on yahoo, hotmail or aol or any other free mail program like that. Some sponsor doesn't have email box. Than they put 10 popups on their sites when you don't get paid on those. So those three points change totally the result you will get and how much money you make. Please read the TOC before promoting a program. Some webmaster wonder why GammaCash pay only $0.45 per confirmed emails compare to others that pay up to $1 on email box. It's very simple, 1st it's a email box and we send the traffic back to your site afterthey had sign-up. 2nd, We pay on every emails no matter which program they us as yahoo, hotmail, aol or any other free programs. Also we pay on every countries even china. The best thing to, I'm not saying use all my program because it's the best. I would prefer to say test most of them that are out there and see which one is being the most honest with you and bring you the most money. Enjoy!! It was just my . __________________ Ozzy