how many civilans have the Isralie military killed in Palestine?

Smokey's post was thoughtful and logically.


You are the only one coming off as stupid.

casualties of war.
they don't go in with the intention of killing them unlike hamas and other groups that go into israel with suicide bombs or guns with the sole intent of killing people because they are jewish.

Jesus fucking Christ....... These fucking idiots just don't get it, do they? The art of war has changed.

In the 1980s Russia invaded Afghanistan and got their asses kicked. We went in a few years ago after 9/11 and the country was ours in a month. We've been to war with Iraq twice now, and they got their asses handed to them so quick that it was comical.

Keeping in mind that Iran was at war for nearly a decaded with Iraq, how do they think they can keep up?

I'm not saying the US is the best country in the world; I'm sure China would kick our asses. But not Iran. They'd get their asses kicked quickly too.

hamas use suicide bombers, Israel use tanks and airplanes....interesting how all the pro Israli guys always use the "casualties of war" reasoning...well then the Isralie civilians are also casualties of war...

so if the Isralie army dont go into palenstine with their tanks and planes with intent to kill, then what are they in there for? to put on a parade?

What YOU dont seem to understand is that if you go to war with Iran, it's not just Iran you have to worry about...there are these things called Allies....

and comparing what happened in Afghanistan with the Russians with what happened with the US is idiotic...when the Russians went in they went to conquer, so they were up against the entire country, and the "ass kicking" as you call it wasnt immediate, it took years of "hide and seek" style combat...does the US have full control of Afganistan right now? How about Iraq?

the last time Smokey made logic on this board is when he joined.
otherwise his posts are illogical and make no sense what so ever on many other topics as well.
how is it logical for him to say israel has repeatedly attacked its neighbours, killed innocent civilians ?
take a little history and see who attacked who first from the creation of the land of israel to this day.
A prime example is with the Yom Kippur War. They attacked israel on the holiest day of the jewish religion.
The war began with a surprise joint attack by Egypt and Syria on the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. Egypt and Syria crossed the cease-fire lines in the Sinai and Golan Heights, respectively, which had been captured by Israel in 1967 during the Six-Day War.[5]
The Egyptians and Syrians advanced during the first 24–48 hours, after which momentum began to swing in Israel's favor. By the second week of the war, the Syrians had been pushed entirely out of the Golan Heights. In the Sinai to the south, the Israelis struck at the "seam" between two invading Egyptian armies, crossed the Suez Canal (where the old ceasefire line had been), and cut off the Egyptian Third Army just as a United Nations cease-fire came into effect.
I don't recall Israel ever attacking arab countries on Ramadan.

it's called sabre rattling.

If Hamas had tanks and fighter jets, suicide bombers would be out of a job :2 cents:

israel goes into these areas because it was attacked not to cross over and just kill people for the fun of it. it goes in to eliminate the threat.
you don't want our tanks in your backyard, stop sending suicide bombers, rockets and cross the borders to kill people.
fair is fair :thumbsup but don't come to me and complain that I am hitting you if you slapped me first.

Why in the world would Iran dislike America and Israel and say that if attacked they would defend themselves? What reason do they have to be nervous?

Oh wait.
http://www.sott.net/signs/images/Iran_surrounded.jpg

:winkwink:

so the solution is to kill 100 times the innocent people ? great strategy :1orglaugh

seems to me you are the one who doesnt know what you are talking about. How many civilians has israel lost in lets say the last 10 years ? now how many civilians has israel killed in the last 10 years . You are either really bad at math or blindly ignorant :)
( or perhaps a bit of both :Oh crap :winkwink: )

did they win that land during a poker game?

.. not counting the USA supporting the insurgents / terrorists ... Just what they are now blaming Iran of doing in Iraq....

So funny how when you switch hat ....

actually you would still need em cause israel would knock those out before they got off the ground just like they did to the Syrians and Egyptians in past wars.
you can have all the fighter jets you want but if you don't have qualified pilots it means shit.

math has nothing to do with it.
like i said in a previous post.
you don't want our tanks in your backyard, stop sending suicide bombers, rockets and cross the borders to kill people.
fair is fair but don't come to me and complain that I am hitting you if you slapped me first.

gee perhaps because it is true.. :2 cents:

I think we all know the USA is responsible for this.

Someone should start a thread and call us out.

yeah not biased at all that link....

no they didn't win it in a poker game. it was won in another war called the six day war.
In May 1967, Egypt expelled the United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) from the Sinai Peninsula, which had been stationed there since 1957 (following the 1956 Sinai invasion to allow for a free Suez Canal), to provide a peace-keeping buffer zone. In reaction to Israeli-Syrian tensions, Egypt amassed 1000 tanks and 100,000 soldiers on the border, closed the Straits of Tiran to all ships flying Israeli flags or carrying strategic materials, and called for unified Arab action against Israel. In response, on June 5, 1967, Israel launched a pre-emptive attack against Egypt's airforce. Jordan, which had signed a mutual defence treaty with Egypt on May 30, then attacked western Jerusalem and Netanya. At the war's end, Israel had gained control of the Sinai Peninsula, the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, eastern Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights. The results of the war affect the geopolitics of the region to this day.

Don't fuck with me and I will not fuck with you :thumbsup

"pre emptive" strike? so looks to me Israel attacked first....how is that not starting a war?

yes it does actually , you are trying to say israel killing civilians is somehow different than people killing israeli civilians. you dont make any sense.


you don't want suicide bombers, rockets and cross border attacks , perhaps you should stop killing innocent people with your tanks.. gee who woulda thought.

thats exactly how they feel , they feel they got slapped first, you feel like you got slapped first , most RATIONAL people understand that you dont slap people just because they slapped you first , especially when nobody knows or cares who slapped first ..

Do you have children ? if your kid got his eye poked out do you teach your kids to poke someone else's eye out in retaliation ?


you do remember how the old " eye for an eye" saying ends right ?

what exactly are you trying to say ? you cant answer any of the questions i posed ?


start with the first one and work your way down the list

great unbiased source you got there ...

I don't know, but I have a feeling that Rockhard would pull his guns out ( tough I think he sleeps with them ) if someone would start taking over HIS backyard ... again, probably wrong, America wouldn't mind .... :1orglaugh


Seriously,. Hamas should STOP those rocket attacks completely ( serves no purpose ) , stop suicide bombers ( not well seen in the western world, even from supporters ) and release the 2 Israeli soldiers captured before the Lebanon invasion ( no point in keeping them prisonner ). That would give a jump start to the peace process as ell as prevent Israel from using the so-called " we got to defend ourselves " rhetoric.

now that is called logic.. :thumbsup

Could this be the reason that Israel and Palestine are still fighting with each other

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/08/01/093335.php

Guess I never realized you were a racist.

yeah, gas prices sure have tumbled since we invaded!

That land rightfully belongs to the Canaanites. I weep for them.

Don?t really like dealing with ignorant people ?. You can choose other sites to look for what ?really? happens ?.i?m guessing people like you will only understand when it?s too late ?

So you think Israel should just keep turning the other cheek?

It is not Israel's fault that Hamas hides out in civilian neighborhoods, using civilians as shields. :2 cents:

That is the problem with schools these days.

Attack and retaliation are not the same thing.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1207486213086&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

one word ..... Idiot ....

So sick of ppl thinking war is the answer. :321GFY

Imagine how high they would be IF they had not invaded ....









/republican thinking.... jk

Ahhh Israel

Poor poor Israel

One day the Israeli people will see why you can't just lie to the rest of the world. They will see why when you commit numerous violations of UN resolutions the world will no longer back you. They will see why when you steal, cheat, kill and murder innocent civilians the world will no longer support your illegal claim to any land.

What a sad time it is for Israel, you are losing your control of the media, literally the only thing that has kept the rest of the world from turning on you, and it is only a matter of time before Israel takes its place as an illegally founded and illegally occupied religious state and its leaders pay for what they've done.

Only a matter of time :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Occupation101.com to see some FACTS from an award winning movie, NOT a biased movie, and people with great credentials both Israelis and others talking about whats happening.

That is how I see it.