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Probono · 04-14-2008, 07:30 AM

We implemented it an immediately had people complaining that one Euro is worth more than one Dollar and wanting partial refunds. There is no way to change the ratio at this time.

Anyone else have the problem?
How are you dealing with it?

MakingItPay · 04-14-2008, 07:44 AM

Just implemented it and so far haven't had that issue. How are they seeing your price in US dollars?

Probono · 04-14-2008, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MakingItPay

Just implemented it and so far haven't had that issue. How are they seeing your price in US dollars?

Our prices are currently on the link page to checkout. Yes we could remove that but not sure that is a good idea.

MakingItPay · 04-14-2008, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Probono

Our prices are currently on the link page to checkout. Yes we could remove that but not sure that is a good idea.

If you are going to use regional billing then it is false advertising, right?

Probono · 04-14-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MakingItPay

If you are going to use regional billing then it is false advertising, right?

correct

$29USD is not the same as 29 Euros and there is no method yet to reset the ratio so the difference is rather obvious to the buyer. They have set the ratios to be fair for other currencies close enough to not raise eyebrows but 1:1 Euro:Dollar, pretty obvious

04-14-2008, 09:58 AM

I think the only way to use it is not using any pricing on tours and joinpage.
correct me if I am wrong please.
I am NOT using it btw.

Probono · 04-14-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ThumbLord

I think the only way to use it is not using any pricing on tours and joinpage.
correct me if I am wrong please.
I am NOT using it btw.

That would be the only way I can think of using it in it's current form. Unfortunately that is not a viable option for sales and marketing. In my opinion people want to know the price before they click on the bill me page.

Jensen · 04-14-2008, 10:13 AM

Course you are going to end up with complaints if you advertise a certain price before the signup page. Get rid of it or get rid of regional billing..

CarlosTheGaucho · 04-14-2008, 10:18 AM

I had to turn it off, because as far as all the credit card products have to be set in USD the equivalents in EUR and GBP skyrocketed incredibly high.

The only way would be so you can fix the prices in different currencies upfront - to set up a fixed equivalent of the subscription price in different currencies.

Probono · 04-14-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

I had to turn it off, because as far as all the credit card products have to be set in USD the equivalents in EUR and GBP skyrocketed incredibly high.

The only way would be so you can fix the prices in different currencies upfront - to set up a fixed equivalent of the subscription price in different currencies.

Agreed although GPB seemed about right, the Euro is way off and as of now there is no way to adjust ratios.

MakingItPay · 04-14-2008, 10:39 AM

I would suggest taking price off of your join pages and see what happens. We and our affiliates are just make more money on foreign signups so far. No complaints so far. We like to let them see the product and not have them consider price until they are ready to join.

LB-69 · 04-14-2008, 10:40 AM

We are testing it for few days now on one of our sites, by now its all fine. Removed the prices from join page and getting sign up for 60$ EU and 52$ from UK. Other countries are ups as well, such as CA, AU and Japan but not big jumps like with EU.

TheMaster · 04-22-2008, 11:36 AM

bumping, who else is also using it?

CarlosTheGaucho · 04-22-2008, 12:46 PM

I got a couple sign ups for 44 EUR instead of the regular price 29,95 EUR, and no chargebacks.

But I believe the surfer should still know how much he pays though.

Probono · 04-22-2008, 12:51 PM

We are testing on 4 subaccounts and should have some statistical data by Friday. So far it looks very promising but does require dancing around stating the price before they clcik to buy.

fuzebox · 04-22-2008, 01:11 PM

A quick script to show a price based on region (acquired via ip geo targeting using a free country db) wouldn't be that hard at all.

BiggleJones · 04-22-2008, 04:32 PM

We've added Regional billing to a few of our sites last week, and have seen nothing but extra income added to our bottom line. No complaints from anyone yet and we get at least 2-3 Euro/UK signups a day (adding an extra $7-$11 per sale) . We couldn't be happier so far.

nastymed · 05-14-2008, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ThumbLord

I think the only way to use it is not using any pricing on tours and joinpage.
correct me if I am wrong please.
I am NOT using it btw.

yep, it makes things much simpler

BVF · 05-14-2008, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Probono

That would be the only way I can think of using it in it's current form. Unfortunately that is not a viable option for sales and marketing. In my opinion people want to know the price before they click on the bill me page.

Either take the price off of the join page or take down regional billing....If you don't, you'll continue to have pissed customers...I haven't had the price on the join page for YEARS with no adverse effects...

Kevin Cunningham · 05-14-2008, 07:38 AM

We removed regional billing for the same reason, $24.95 USD and $24.95 Euros are just way too far off.

MikeSmoke · 05-14-2008, 07:45 AM

We haven't implemented it.
We depend (to a large extent) on return customers who already know our pricing - and they'd object.
But the lower dollar has meant more non-US signups than ever - we see the same thing on our hard goods - all the Europeans (and others) see it as a "bargain" and are more willing to sign up or buy DVDs - meaning we've increased our total number of sales at the price point we were happy with before the Euro took off.

Boobgirl · 05-14-2008, 08:04 AM

What about removing the '$' from your amounts on your tour, and indicating 'prices are in US funds unless otherwise noted'?

TheMaster · 05-14-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Twistys Kevin

We removed regional billing for the same reason, $24.95 USD and $24.95 Euros are just way too far off.

Hi Kevin,

couldn't you change it to like ?20 or something, would still convert to $30

04-14-2008, 07:30 AM	#1
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	Are you using ccbill regional billing? We implemented it an immediately had people complaining that one Euro is worth more than one Dollar and wanting partial refunds. There is no way to change the ratio at this time. Anyone else have the problem? How are you dealing with it?

04-14-2008, 07:44 AM	#2
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04-14-2008, 09:58 AM	#6
ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	I think the only way to use it is not using any pricing on tours and joinpage. correct me if I am wrong please. I am NOT using it btw. Last edited by ThumbLord; 04-14-2008 at 09:58 AM.. Reason: adding

04-14-2008, 10:18 AM	#9
CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,512	I had to turn it off, because as far as all the credit card products have to be set in USD the equivalents in EUR and GBP skyrocketed incredibly high. The only way would be so you can fix the prices in different currencies upfront - to set up a fixed equivalent of the subscription price in different currencies. __________________ CTG Media \| skype: carlosprague \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Want to make more with your Dating Traffic? \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles \| Did your ad revenue drop by 40 pct. or more last year? Last edited by CarlosTheGaucho; 04-14-2008 at 10:20 AM.. Reason: ....

04-14-2008, 10:39 AM	#11
MakingItPay Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,920	I would suggest taking price off of your join pages and see what happens. We and our affiliates are just make more money on foreign signups so far. No complaints so far. We like to let them see the product and not have them consider price until they are ready to join. __________________ Giant Boob High Def Trifectas http://www.TrifectaBucks.com 3D Super Sites that Sell http://www.ThrillBucks.com Giant Boobs Anyone? http://www.MakingitPay.com ICQ me at 213177906

04-14-2008, 10:13 AM	#8
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	Course you are going to end up with complaints if you advertise a certain price before the signup page. Get rid of it or get rid of regional billing..

04-14-2008, 10:40 AM	#12
LB-69 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Land of Smiling Pussy Posts: 1,322	We are testing it for few days now on one of our sites, by now its all fine. Removed the prices from join page and getting sign up for 60$ EU and 52$ from UK. Other countries are ups as well, such as CA, AU and Japan but not big jumps like with EU. __________________ ICQ: 58181146 ExoticGold - 100% Original Transexual Affiliate Program, So Hot, Straight Men Get Sprung!

04-22-2008, 11:36 AM	#13
TheMaster Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Prague Posts: 2,733	bumping, who else is also using it? __________________ Promote Chaturbate Free Cams

04-22-2008, 12:46 PM	#14
CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,512	I got a couple sign ups for 44 EUR instead of the regular price 29,95 EUR, and no chargebacks. But I believe the surfer should still know how much he pays though. __________________ CTG Media \| skype: carlosprague \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Want to make more with your Dating Traffic? \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles \| Did your ad revenue drop by 40 pct. or more last year?

04-22-2008, 12:51 PM	#15
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	We are testing on 4 subaccounts and should have some statistical data by Friday. So far it looks very promising but does require dancing around stating the price before they clcik to buy.

04-22-2008, 01:11 PM	#16
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,117	A quick script to show a price based on region (acquired via ip geo targeting using a free country db) wouldn't be that hard at all.

04-22-2008, 04:32 PM	#17
BiggleJones Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Downtown LA Posts: 2,276	We've added Regional billing to a few of our sites last week, and have seen nothing but extra income added to our bottom line. No complaints from anyone yet and we get at least 2-3 Euro/UK signups a day (adding an extra $7-$11 per sale) . We couldn't be happier so far. __________________ ICQ-291.596.343

05-14-2008, 07:38 AM	#20
Kevin Cunningham Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 962	We removed regional billing for the same reason, $24.95 USD and $24.95 Euros are just way too far off. __________________ Online Payment Processing \| Merchant Account Specialists \| E-commerce & High-Risk Experts Kevin Cunningham, President TransSource \| Transactions Simplified [email protected] Mobile: 407-256-2874

05-14-2008, 07:45 AM	#21
MikeSmoke Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,233	We haven't implemented it. We depend (to a large extent) on return customers who already know our pricing - and they'd object. But the lower dollar has meant more non-US signups than ever - we see the same thing on our hard goods - all the Europeans (and others) see it as a "bargain" and are more willing to sign up or buy DVDs - meaning we've increased our total number of sales at the price point we were happy with before the Euro took off. __________________ icq: 541-739-92

05-14-2008, 08:04 AM	#22
Boobgirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 446	What about removing the '$' from your amounts on your tour, and indicating 'prices are in US funds unless otherwise noted'?