Yes!..Got my first CCBill Euro equivalent sale!!

[BVF]

A 29.95 sale in euro's is worth $44.61.....I'm happy that I activated regional billing....

Now if CCbill could align the British Pound with the Dollar, then I would've made even more money today..

[digifan]

Congrats, stranger

[NaughtyRob]

I wish I could be everytime I try to enable it, the admin tells me to log back in. Grrr.

[bobby666]

congrats on that sale

[LB-69]

Originally Posted by BVF

A 29.95 sale in euro's is worth $44.61.....I'm happy that I activated regional billing....

Now if CCbill could align the British Pound with the Dollar, then I would've made even more money today..

How does it looks from the customer point of view? Does he knows he gonna pay more? Can you show me the join page?

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by LB-69

How does it looks from the customer point of view? Does he knows he gonna pay more? Can you show me the join page?

He is not paying more. He uses Euros at home, and thats what it shows him, 29.99 Euros.

[GT-Omar]

Originally Posted by BVF

A 29.95 sale in euro's is worth $44.61.....I'm happy that I activated regional billing....

Now if CCbill could align the British Pound with the Dollar, then I would've made even more money today..

Just imagine, if you localize/translate the site

see sig

[tony286]

congrats ,thats very cool.

[LB-69]

Originally Posted by pornguy

He is not paying more. He uses Euros at home, and thats what it shows him, 29.99 Euros.

Sweet, but his site not showing prices at join page, just a button "Instant credit card access" that goes to CCbill...our join pages stating the prices...

[TNVeric]

Originally Posted by pornguy

He is not paying more. He uses Euros at home, and thats what it shows him, 29.99 Euros.

Question is how many more sales are we getting due to the low dollar. When a european surfer sees $29.99 does he immediately down convert to about 19.0 Euros? Or is he going to buy regardless of whether he sees $29.99 or 29.99 Euro?

Our foreign sales have increases substantially in the past 6 months. I am just concerned about fixing what is not broke.

Of course I am not opposed to making more $$

[tranza]

That's an AWESOME feature...

Will your affiliates benefit from it too???

[nylonbabes]

thank you, CCBILL

[DateDoc]

I clicked the join button 6 times to check it out. Each time I got.....

Safari can’t open the page.
Safari can’t open the page “https://www.ccbill.com/system/ccbill.cgi” because the server unexpectedly dropped the connection, which sometimes occurs when the server is busy. You might be able to open the page later.

refreshing the timed out page gets.....

Invalid request (1).

[BVF]

Originally Posted by tranza

That's an AWESOME feature...

Will your affiliates benefit from it too???

They should...It's the same split percentage as before...

And Now I'm back from the spa, I see yet another UK sale....PLEASE get the Pound setup with the system....I'm salivating at the thought of the extra money...

[BVF]

Originally Posted by LB-69

Sweet, but his site not showing prices at join page, just a button "Instant credit card access" that goes to CCbill...our join pages stating the prices...

I never stated the prices before they got to the form....Once they get to the actual CCbill form, they are given the prices..

Originally Posted by DateDoc

I clicked the join button 6 times to check it out. Each time I got.....

Safari can?t open the page.
Safari can?t open the page ?https://www.ccbill.com/system/ccbill.cgi? because the server unexpectedly dropped the connection, which sometimes occurs when the server is busy. You might be able to open the page later.

refreshing the timed out page gets.....

Invalid request (1).

I sure hope to hell that you're not talking about MY join button....I just checked it in firefox to make sure.

[Elli]

Hm, I tried implementing it on my own site and it just added extra entries to the drop-down list of purchasing options. I ended up with a $12 USD option and a $14.25 USD option for the same length of time. Anyone else get this?

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by BVF

I sure hope to hell that you're not talking about MY join button....I just checked it in firefox to make sure.

Yup, just checked again and getting the same thing.

Safari can’t open the page.
Safari can’t open the page “https://www.ccbill.com/system/ccbill.cgi” because the server unexpectedly dropped the connection, which sometimes occurs when the server is busy. You might be able to open the page later.

Might just be Safari related as in Flock it works fine.

[BV]

How do you know that you would not have gotten 2 euro sales or maybe even 3, if you had left it alone and let the euro customers get a better deal?

If that's the case you lost money.

1 sale and 1 day is hardly enough time to go jumping to conclusions IMO

keep us posted though!

Cheers,
BV

[BVF]

Originally Posted by BV

How do you know that you would not have gotten 2 euro sales or maybe even 3, if you had left it alone and let the euro customers get a better deal?

If that's the case you lost money.

1 sale and 1 day is hardly enough time to go jumping to conclusions IMO

keep us posted though!

Cheers,
BV

In this messed up economy, people are still paying $29.95 here in America....Do you think it will be different in Europe with the Euro strong as hell??

I don't concern myself with minute details like that....If they're gonna buy, they're gonna buy...period....I focus on providing a good product on a consistent basis....

The fact that I'm making almost $15 extra on a Euro sale will surely negate any loss that may happen......And if CCbill included the UK, I would've had three sales and not one euro sale....

[BV]

Originally Posted by BVF

In this messed up economy, people are still paying $29.95 here in America....Do you think it will be different in Europe with the Euro strong as hell??

I don't concern myself with minute details like that....If they're gonna buy, they're gonna buy...period....I focus on providing a good product on a consistent basis....

The fact that I'm making almost $15 extra on a Euro sale will surely negate any loss that may happen......And if CCbill included the UK, I would've had three sales and not one euro sale....

I hear what you are saying bro, but listen to what I am saying too.

People will buy at any price point. But how many? The higher the price point the less people will buy and the lower the price point the more people will buy. If you don't believe me just make your price 69.95. Sooner or later someone will sign up. But also many people did not.

So you value your product at 29.95 USD as what you have decided it's worth to you to sell.

But you make Europeans pay $44.61 USD

So you sold one European today for 44.61 USD

How do you know you also didn't lose one ?

You may have made 2 Euro sales today worth 59.90 USD (29.95 x 2)

Instead you are happy with 44.61, when maybe you could have made 59.90,

so maybe in reality you lost 15.29 USD??

And that's just today. We haven't even mentioned what your rebills and retention will be on these euro customers with you billing them the equivalent of 44.61 USD every 30 days. Your retention will be less for sure at that rate.

But you need more time to tell and sales.

After a month look at the data and see where your euro sales stand as compared to past months. After a few months you will see the trends in your rebills on these guys.

Cheers,
BV

[BVF]

Originally Posted by BV

I hear what you are saying bro, but listen to what I am saying too.

People will buy at any price point. But how many? The higher the price point the less people will buy and the lower the price point the more people will buy. If you don't believe me just make your price 69.95. Sooner or later someone will sign up. But also many people did not.

So you value your product at 29.95 USD as what you have decided it's worth to you to sell.

But you make Europeans pay $44.61 USD

So you sold one European today for 44.61 USD

How do you know you also didn't lose one ?

You may have made 2 Euro sales today worth 59.90 USD (29.95 x 2)

Instead you are happy with 44.61, when maybe you could have made 59.90,

so maybe in reality you lost 15.29 USD??

And that's just today. We haven't even mentioned what your rebills and retention will be on these euro customers with you billing them the equivalent of 44.61 USD every 30 days. Your retention will be less for sure at that rate.

But you need more time to tell and sales.

After a month look at the data and see where your euro sales stand as compared to past months. After a few months you will see the trends in your rebills on these guys.

Cheers,
BV

All that is fine and good.....But I BELIEVE IN MY PRODUCT!!....

Now there may be others who hem and haw when it comes to prices, worrying about who is going to pay for this or that when it comes to their content, or you can truly believe in what you're selling and sell it at any price within reason, which is what I do...

I remember a long time ago when you urged me to change my tour and redesign it and take down all the traffic leaks.....However, I knew better....It's SEO'd wonderfully and I make a nice hunk of extra change from the banners....If I had listened back then, I would have missed out on all of that money all these years....


And I guess the Pound has been adjusted because a 49.95 UK sale is worth 66.33



So to the rest of you, take it from me...If you truly believe in your product, YOU'RE LOSING MONEY by not switching...

[raven1083]

Originally Posted by BVF

A 29.95 sale in euro's is worth $44.61.....I'm happy that I activated regional billing....

Now if CCbill could align the British Pound with the Dollar, then I would've made even more money today..

well then you need to be congratulated for a job well done!

[IllTestYourGirls]

BVF has a micro-niche so I doubt he will show a drop in EU sales. But I guess he will tell us in time. Congrats on the first EU sale

[MikeSmoke]

Just out of curiosity, what is the micro-niche? It just seems like the black porn niche to me (not referring to comparable quality, just the niche)...but I must be missing something. (I'm serious, not busting balls).

[axelez]

Originally Posted by BVF

A 29.95 sale in euro's is worth $44.61.....I'm happy that I activated regional billing....

congrats

[iMind]

Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

Just out of curiosity, what is the micro-niche? It just seems like the black porn niche to me (not referring to comparable quality, just the niche)...but I must be missing something. (I'm serious, not busting balls).

crackhead chicken heads is the niche.

[nikki99]

I just activated this option

[BV]

Originally Posted by BVF

All that is fine and good.....But I BELIEVE IN MY PRODUCT!!....

Now there may be others who hem and haw when it comes to prices, worrying about who is going to pay for this or that when it comes to their content, or you can truly believe in what you're selling and sell it at any price within reason, which is what I do...

I remember a long time ago when you urged me to change my tour and redesign it and take down all the traffic leaks.....However, I knew better....It's SEO'd wonderfully and I make a nice hunk of extra change from the banners....If I had listened back then, I would have missed out on all of that money all these years....


And I guess the Pound has been adjusted because a 49.95 UK sale is worth 66.33



So to the rest of you, take it from me...If you truly believe in your product, YOU'RE LOSING MONEY by not switching...

OK man, I can see you take constructive criticism as about as well as I do.

Maybe with the extra revenue you're making you will be able to host your own promo videos. Besides on PornoTube. Dude, WTF is that about?

So many little thing you do on your site irritate the shit out of me.

Why do I even care?

[Deputy Chief Command]

Originally Posted by pornguy

He is not paying more. He uses Euros at home, and thats what it shows him, 29.99 Euros.

how is he not paying more ? right now european customers are looking for dollar deals ! normally he would be billed in dollars and thus pay less ..

[Deputy Chief Command]

Originally Posted by BVF

In this messed up economy, people are still paying $29.95 here in America....Do you think it will be different in Europe with the Euro strong as hell??

..

there is no advantage for europeans that the euro is high .. on the contrary . . imported goods are more expensive now and companies that export their products make less money


the only advantage there was to the strong euro you are trying to eliminate by not allowing them to bill in USD

[BVF]

Originally Posted by BV

OK man, I can see you take constructive criticism as about as well as I do.

Maybe with the extra revenue you're making you will be able to host your own promo videos. Besides on PornoTube. Dude, WTF is that about?

So many little thing you do on your site irritate the shit out of me.

Why do I even care?

Before this girl gets out of the shower so I can film this blowjob, let me say this...

I know what I'm doing.

[Trixie]

I want to try it, but we do have our prices advertised openly on our tours in dollars and I do think everyone out of the country is aware that the dollar is weak and figures that in when they decide they want to join. I don't want to hit them with a huge increase and make them feel they've been mislead.

[BV]

Originally Posted by Trixie

I want to try it, but we do have our prices advertised openly on our tours in dollars and I do think everyone out of the country is aware that the dollar is weak and figures that in when they decide they want to join. I don't want to hit them with a huge increase and make them feel they've been mislead.

That's another good point, that even carries over to affiliates that may have made their own FPA's or what not which they may have included the price in their sales text.

ALSO WHAT ABOUT REVIEW SITES! Is where I see problems.

Price Point is included and part of their ranking. So if a review site advertises prices in USD and someone from the Nederlands goes to join and sees whats going on there is going to eventually be problems.

I'd like to here how the big review sites feel about this, as it is misleading advertising. It might even cause problems with VISA and chargebacks under the right circumstances.

I'm going to play it safe for a little while and see what time will tell.

[BVF]

Do any of you in here really think that Ron Cadwell, the CEO of the most top notch billing company there is, after all the beta testing that they did on it, would say something if there was a noticeable drop in sales?...Hell, all you have to do is activate it and test it...If you see a drop or get complaints from repeat customers, all you have to do is DE-activate it...I don't see the big problem here...

So unless you think that he would flat out lie then you would have no choice to have some sort of faith in the results of the beta testing...

The surfer will buy....Haven't any of y'all changed your prices across the board before?....I've done it TWICE and I still see old repeat customers coming back year after year even with the higher prices...I had to decide years ago to drop the check option....In the world of business, decisions must be made. So I'm experienced in customer behavior at least when it comes to my site.

[BV]

Originally Posted by BVF

Do any of you in here really think that Ron Cadwell, the CEO of the most top notch billing company there is, after all the beta testing that they did on it, would say something if there was a noticeable drop in sales?...Hell, all you have to do is activate it and test it...If you see a drop or get complaints from repeat customers, all you have to do is DE-activate it...I don't see the big problem here...

So unless you think that he would flat out lie then you would have no choice to have some sort of faith in the results of the beta testing...

The surfer will buy....Haven't any of y'all changed your prices across the board before?....I've done it TWICE and I still see old repeat customers coming back year after year even with the higher prices...I had to decide years ago to drop the check option....In the world of business, decisions must be made. So I'm experienced in customer behavior at least when it comes to my site.

dude, you really aren't as smart as you think you are

You dropped the check option? You're dumb for dropping the check option.

And by your own admitted mindset you used on this new feature carry over to the check option, why would Ron Cadwell (CCBill) even offer the check option if it sucked?

hmmm?

[NN_Matt]

Originally Posted by BVF

Now if CCbill could align the British Pound with the Dollar, then I would've made even more money today..

ccbill is a great company and constantly innovating. don't lose faith. they will certainly get there.

[NN_Matt]

Originally Posted by Revshare-Omar

Just imagine, if you localize/translate the site

see sig

and he may be right :-)

[BVF]

Originally Posted by BV

dude, you really aren't as smart as you think you are

You dropped the check option? You're dumb for dropping the check option.

And by your own admitted mindset you used on this new feature carry over to the check option, why would Ron Cadwell (CCBill) even offer the check option if it sucked?

hmmm?

Did I say having the check option helped or hurt sales?....No....I just didn't like people going through all my shit KNOWING that they could easily defraud the check system....If something has changed, let me know and I'll put it back up today....And if you want to re-re-use that argument, we're BOTH dumb for not having the pay by phone option....

EVERYTHING I do has a science and a rigorous thought process behind it, whether or not you want to believe it...

[BVF]

Originally Posted by BVF

Did I say having the check option helped or hurt sales?....No....I just didn't like people going through all my shit KNOWING that they could easily defraud the check system....If something has changed, let me know and I'll put it back up today....

Hmm...In this thread right here https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/818610-18-refunds-chargebacks-month-personal-record.html I see that the check problem hasn't changed..

Originally Posted by ProjectNaked

I have processed 15K+ subscriptions and the CB's seem to come in waves when it's affiliate fraud or people working together to scam a site, (yes, there are boards out there with clear information on how to use check fraud and CB's to get free memberships

Now WHY would I subject myself to this shit for a few extra check dollars? Fuck that....This is 2008...If you're on the internet in america doing commerce, you need at least a debit card....

[Shap]

Thanks for starting this thread. I had completely forgot about activating this. ;) Thanks

[Shoehorn!]

The "Realized Revenue" is what we're making above and beyond the normal price is we use this option correct?

In other words,, if I have a $29.94 price point and its billed in Euros, I am making an additional $14.85?

[BVF]

Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

The "Realized Revenue" is what we're making above and beyond the normal price is we use this option correct?

In other words,, if I have a $29.94 price point and its billed in Euros, I am making an additional $14.85?

yes........

[BV]

BVF,

The pay by phone thing is a little different. It does not pay out as much nor does it rebill at all.

Even though a larg portion of check transactions get credited back, they don't fuck with your CB ratio at all, so who cares?

The rest of the check transactions work just fine and recur FOREVER almost it seems. For this reason I only offer a monthly recurring option on the check forms.

Check signups recurr looooong time.

Your losing money not having it.

I earn over 30k a year in check transactions.

Why would I throw that away? Answer that.

[BVF]

Originally Posted by BV

BVF,

The pay by phone thing is a little different. It does not pay out as much nor does it rebill at all.

Even though a larg portion of check transactions get credited back, they don't fuck with your CB ratio at all, so who cares?

The rest of the check transactions work just fine and recur FOREVER almost it seems. For this reason I only offer a monthly recurring option on the check forms.

Check signups recurr looooong time.

Your losing money not having it.

I earn over 30k a year in check transactions.

Why would I throw that away? Answer that.

See, now when you put it like that, I can't help but to agree with common sense.....I might just look into putting the option back up...