SpamArrest is holding my sent emails hostage unless I pay them $24.95!! - GoFuckYourself.com

TMM_John · 04-03-2008, 03:54 PM

Does anyone else find this to be absolutely absurd?

We sent an email out to our clients today. A number of them use spam arrest. After approving a few this error message came up:

The link goes to: http://www.spamarrest.com/kssignup/index.jsp

Upon completing the first form they want to charge us at least $24.95/year in order to email our customers who use their service!

Here is the second form:

I don't use your service, so I can't email people who do? They're going to hold my outgoing emails hostage until I pay them? Are they out of their minds?

Any of our clients using SA please either whitelist *@toomuchmedia.com or please use a service that isn't going to charge us to email you.

(We are of course paying the fee now as we need to in order to get our emails out. Lovely little racket they have going there.)

Jace · 04-03-2008, 04:01 PM

that is NUTS

anyone using a third party for their email spam filter is just as nuts though

there are SO many free options available for anyone to use now, there is no point using a third party

RudeBoy · 04-03-2008, 04:37 PM

you use the service you pay for it .... it's not free

amateur-skin · 04-03-2008, 04:40 PM

Id email that company and tell them to go fuck themselves with a rake

iMind · 04-03-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RudeBoy

you use the service you pay for it .... it's not free

Good reading skills you got there

He's NOT using them.. he's trying to email his affiliates or something and because a number of them ARE using spam arrest, the bastards are trying to charge him to send the mail to all those people.

scottybuzz · 04-03-2008, 04:45 PM

thats wrong. I thought it was wrong, that when you verify those links, they plaster you with ads for their service.

TheDoc · 04-03-2008, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudeBoy

you use the service you pay for it .... it's not free

He isn't using the service, Webmasters he is trying to email and pay to get those emails are the ones using the service.

3xTom · 04-03-2008, 05:07 PM

the bigger question is why are you in freds email

crockett · 04-03-2008, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudeBoy

you use the service you pay for it .... it's not free

He isn't using it.. They are making him pay.. to be able to e-mail his clients whom are using SA. Seems like total BS too me, I hate it when people use that service.

fluffygrrl · 04-03-2008, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

(We are of course paying the fee now as we need to in order to get our emails out. Lovely little racket they have going there.)

I wouldn't pay. In fact, I don't.

All sorts of nuts have all sorts of schemes in place. They want you to follow this protocol. That procedure. These idiots want to charge you.

I don't care. Either they comply with the RFC or they don't. That's a choice any webmaster makes for themselves, and I have no business with it. I send mail according to the RFC, and that's all I will ever do. If it doesn't make it, whoever doesn't get it needs to either fix their servers, fire their admins, or whatever other steps necessary.

Otherwise, what am I to do, buy people computers and hire someone to maintain them ? Bollocks to that.

nosey · 04-03-2008, 05:45 PM

insane

warlock5 · 04-03-2008, 07:22 PM

If SpamArrest didn't do this, you do realize how easy it would be for spammers to bypass their system?

TMM_John · 04-03-2008, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3xTom

the bigger question is why are you in freds email

Where am I in Fred's email?

fris · 04-03-2008, 08:08 PM

Change your pop3 password, then you will get your msgs, spam arrest wont be able to do the filtering anymore.

I do all my spam filtering server side, I have had my email address since 1996 and maybe 3 or 4 spams get through a day.

beemk · 04-03-2008, 08:13 PM

thats bordeline blackmail

woj · 04-03-2008, 09:20 PM

that's f'ed up...

NETbilling · 04-03-2008, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace

that is NUTS

anyone using a third party for their email spam filter is just as nuts though

there are SO many free options available for anyone to use now, there is no point using a third party

Can you list some please?

tony286 · 04-03-2008, 09:31 PM

thats fucked up.

Phoenix · 04-03-2008, 09:38 PM

spam arrest is for tweakers

Phoenix · 04-03-2008, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling

Can you list some please?

here is a free one

create folder called inbox2

put all emails there..then create rules for anyone important
or who might be emailing you

wollah..same shit as spam arrest

Spunky · 04-03-2008, 09:44 PM

Weasels always digging in your pockets

fluffygrrl · 04-04-2008, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlock5

If SpamArrest didn't do this, you do realize how easy it would be for spammers to bypass their system?

This is the sort of insane pseudo-reasoning that you get for letting the general public use the internet.

The fact that spamarrests "idea" is dysfunctional is NOT MY PROBLEM. Them trying to shore up their braindamaged implementation of it is also not my problem.

This is exactly the Bush argument : But sir, if we wouldn't bust into the houses of random innocent citizens and trash their furniture for absolutely no reason, do you know how hard it'd be to catch terrorists ?!?!?!

I don't give a shit. Catch them, or fail at catching them and I'll elect somebody else, but do not fuck up my furniture.

Iron Fist · 04-04-2008, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Does anyone else find this to be absolutely absurd?

You kidding right? You telling me you can't afford $24.95 a YEAR? What's a NATS install cost... $500 setup?

stickyfingerz · 04-04-2008, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead

You kidding right? You telling me you can't afford $24.95 a YEAR? What's a NATS install cost... $500 setup?

Think you are missing the point of the post. Doesnt matter if it is .25 cents they are holding emails ransom.

CyberHustler · 04-04-2008, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

This is the sort of insane pseudo-reasoning that you get for letting the general public use the internet.

The fact that spamarrests "idea" is dysfunctional is NOT MY PROBLEM. Them trying to shore up their braindamaged implementation of it is also not my problem.

This is exactly the Bush argument : But sir, if we wouldn't bust into the houses of random innocent citizens and trash their furniture for absolutely no reason, do you know how hard it'd be to catch terrorists ?!?!?!

I don't give a shit. Catch them, or fail at catching them and I'll elect somebody else, but do not fuck up my furniture.

Are your tits pierced?

oyvind · 04-04-2008, 06:39 AM

Isn't the email address you had blocked by spamarrest now the same one that hacked in to all your nats installs ?

Link to refresh your memory https://gfy.com/13547363-post23.html

tranza · 04-04-2008, 07:26 AM

That's no good...

TMM_John · 04-04-2008, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oyvind

Isn't the email address you had blocked by spamarrest now the same one that hacked in to all your nats installs ?

Link to refresh your memory https://gfy.com/13547363-post23.html

No, e-mail addresses do not do hacking, hackers do.

Fred is our senior programmer, and his email was attached to the admin accounts which were involved with the security issue.

baddog · 04-04-2008, 11:11 AM

I wonder what the threshold is before the ransom demands begin.

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 04-04-2008, 11:19 AM

wow, that is total and complete BS. I guess I can sympathize with your need to keep in contact with your business associates no matter what the cost, but honestly, as an affiliate or client, I couldn't blame someone for not emailing me if it were MY stupid spam program fucking up. I worked with spam arrest with my first job in the industry and the back end was so slow it would have been faster to just manually filter out the spam as it came in. Crappy service from a shady company.

rowan · 04-04-2008, 12:32 PM

Hmm... I can kind of understand why they do this, I can't really think of any other way to "discourage" wholesale malicious use of their system... don't forget their customers are paying them to block unwanted mail, if it was possible to do a run and verify all the ones that hit SA in rapid fire succession then that defeats the purpose somewhat.

Due · 04-04-2008, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

Hmm... I can kind of understand why they do this, I can't really think of any other way to "discourage" wholesale malicious use of their system... don't forget their customers are paying them to block unwanted mail, if it was possible to do a run and verify all the ones that hit SA in rapid fire succession then that defeats the purpose somewhat.

Authenticate senders by passport copy or company registration details.
I am not too happy paying for a service to keep my inbox clean and at the same time senders is demanded a fee to mailing me also if it involve a subscription to newsletters that may contain important information about my business.
Normally I whitelist such domains where I expect it, however it does happend that people change sending domains for whatever reason it may be

ChatCash_Rob · 04-04-2008, 01:48 PM

I've had that before they implemented the $24.95 charge, I never had a problem after using a new i.p.

FreeHugeMovies · 04-04-2008, 02:08 PM

People who signup to programs using their spam arrest e mail accounts aren't the smartest.

Azoy? · 04-04-2008, 02:27 PM

sounds like they are holding you hostage
tell them

the service doesn't assure anything in terms of stoping spams to the people who use the service except if you as the email sender pay them and you can send emails

BradM · 04-04-2008, 02:28 PM

We do the same thing. I just have to manually do each one. Then wait 24 hours do more. Wait, more. I mean I'd pay the $25 without worry but it's the PRINCIPLE. It's a money grab operation.

sortie · 04-04-2008, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Does anyone else find this to be absolutely absurd?

We sent an email out to our clients today. A number of them use spam arrest. After approving a few this error message came up:

People called me an idiot when I said I didn't want to click their spam arrest links.
Maybe they will read your post and re-think that.

F-U-Jimmy · 04-04-2008, 03:13 PM

I agree with those who think its totally wrong of spam arrest to make this adittional charge, in my book its extortion.

zabijaq · 04-04-2008, 05:07 PM

Sound like they have advisors from Godaddy. Taking hostages

woj · 04-04-2008, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

People who signup to programs using their spam arrest e mail accounts aren't the smartest.

hmm, isn't it the whole point? If you are giving the email just to your family and friends and people you know, what do you need spam arrest for then?

baddog · 04-04-2008, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

I wonder what the threshold is before the ransom demands begin.

No one ?

FreeHugeMovies · 04-04-2008, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

hmm, isn't it the whole point? If you are giving the email just to your family and friends and people you know, what do you need spam arrest for then?

You use one e mail addy for registration to programs. The other one you use with spam arrest. When companies send you e mails with [email protected] and you bounce them with spam arrest, you never end up getting them.

Zorgman · 04-04-2008, 06:59 PM

That sucks John.

Maybe it's time to add an extra fee per month for those clients that use spam arrest.

NinjaSteve · 04-04-2008, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Does anyone else find this to be absolutely absurd?

We sent an email out to our clients today. A number of them use spam arrest. After approving a few this error message came up:

The link goes to: http://www.spamarrest.com/kssignup/index.jsp

Upon completing the first form they want to charge us at least $24.95/year in order to email our customers who use their service!

Here is the second form:

I don't use your service, so I can't email people who do? They're going to hold my outgoing emails hostage until I pay them? Are they out of their minds?

Any of our clients using SA please either whitelist *@toomuchmedia.com or please use a service that isn't going to charge us to email you.

(We are of course paying the fee now as we need to in order to get our emails out. Lovely little racket they have going there.)

That's some mafia action right there.

bdld · 04-04-2008, 11:19 PM

never heard of that before. every time i see nasty cross sells in adult, i never forget mainstream does the same BS.

The Duck · 04-04-2008, 11:23 PM

I use them, but im phasing them out right now.

04-03-2008, 03:54 PM	#1
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,664	SpamArrest is holding my sent emails hostage unless I pay them $24.95!! Does anyone else find this to be absolutely absurd? We sent an email out to our clients today. A number of them use spam arrest. After approving a few this error message came up: The link goes to: http://www.spamarrest.com/kssignup/index.jsp Upon completing the first form they want to charge us at least $24.95/year in order to email our customers who use their service! Here is the second form: I don't use your service, so I can't email people who do? They're going to hold my outgoing emails hostage until I pay them? Are they out of their minds? Any of our clients using SA please either whitelist @toomuchmedia.com or please use a service that isn't going to charge us to email you. (We are of course paying the fee now as we need to in order to get our emails out. Lovely little racket they have going there.) __________________ Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS! Last edited by TMM_John; 04-03-2008 at 03:55 PM..*

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04-03-2008, 04:01 PM	#2
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	that is NUTS anyone using a third party for their email spam filter is just as nuts though there are SO many free options available for anyone to use now, there is no point using a third party

04-03-2008, 05:07 PM	#8
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04-03-2008, 07:22 PM	#12
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04-03-2008, 08:08 PM	#14
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,382	Change your pop3 password, then you will get your msgs, spam arrest wont be able to do the filtering anymore. I do all my spam filtering server side, I have had my email address since 1996 and maybe 3 or 4 spams get through a day. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

04-03-2008, 08:13 PM	#15
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04-03-2008, 09:31 PM	#18
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04-04-2008, 06:39 AM	#26
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04-04-2008, 07:26 AM	#27
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04-04-2008, 11:11 AM	#29
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04-04-2008, 11:19 AM	#30
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04-04-2008, 12:32 PM	#31
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Hmm... I can kind of understand why they do this, I can't really think of any other way to "discourage" wholesale malicious use of their system... don't forget their customers are paying them to block unwanted mail, if it was possible to do a run and verify all the ones that hit SA in rapid fire succession then that defeats the purpose somewhat.

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FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	People who signup to programs using their spam arrest e mail accounts aren't the smartest.

04-04-2008, 02:27 PM	#35
Azoy? Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,178	sounds like they are holding you hostage tell them the service doesn't assure anything in terms of stoping spams to the people who use the service except if you as the email sender pay them and you can send emails __________________

04-04-2008, 02:28 PM	#36
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	We do the same thing. I just have to manually do each one. Then wait 24 hours do more. Wait, more. I mean I'd pay the $25 without worry but it's the PRINCIPLE. It's a money grab operation.

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04-04-2008, 05:07 PM	#39
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bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	never heard of that before. every time i see nasty cross sells in adult, i never forget mainstream does the same BS.

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