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  • TMM_John
    Confirmed User
    • May 2004
    • 6664
    #1

    SpamArrest is holding my sent emails hostage unless I pay them $24.95!!

    Does anyone else find this to be absolutely absurd?

    We sent an email out to our clients today. A number of them use spam arrest. After approving a few this error message came up:



    The link goes to: http://www.spamarrest.com/kssignup/index.jsp

    Upon completing the first form they want to charge us at least $24.95/year in order to email our customers who use their service!

    Here is the second form:



    I don't use your service, so I can't email people who do? They're going to hold my outgoing emails hostage until I pay them? Are they out of their minds?

    Any of our clients using SA please either whitelist *@toomuchmedia.com or please use a service that isn't going to charge us to email you.

    (We are of course paying the fee now as we need to in order to get our emails out. Lovely little racket they have going there.)
    Last edited by TMM_John; 04-03-2008, 02:55 PM.


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    • Jace
      FBOP Class Of 2013
      • Jan 2004
      • 35562
      #2
      that is NUTS

      anyone using a third party for their email spam filter is just as nuts though

      there are SO many free options available for anyone to use now, there is no point using a third party

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        • RudeBoy
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2007
          • 290
          #3
          you use the service you pay for it .... it's not free
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            • amateur-skin
              Registered User
              • Mar 2008
              • 88
              #4
              Id email that company and tell them to go fuck themselves with a rake
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                • iMind
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 937
                  #5
                  Originally posted by RudeBoy
                  you use the service you pay for it .... it's not free
                  Good reading skills you got there
                  He's NOT using them.. he's trying to email his affiliates or something and because a number of them ARE using spam arrest, the bastards are trying to charge him to send the mail to all those people.

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                    • scottybuzz
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • May 2006
                      • 14799
                      #6
                      thats wrong. I thought it was wrong, that when you verify those links, they plaster you with ads for their service.
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                        • TheDoc
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 13827
                          #7
                          Originally posted by RudeBoy
                          you use the service you pay for it .... it's not free
                          He isn't using the service, Webmasters he is trying to email and pay to get those emails are the ones using the service.
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                            • 3xTom
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 1610
                              #8
                              the bigger question is why are you in freds email

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                                • crockett
                                  in a van by the river
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 76818
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by RudeBoy
                                  you use the service you pay for it .... it's not free
                                  He isn't using it.. They are making him pay.. to be able to e-mail his clients whom are using SA. Seems like total BS too me, I hate it when people use that service.
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                                    • fluffygrrl
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • May 2006
                                      • 2187
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                      (We are of course paying the fee now as we need to in order to get our emails out. Lovely little racket they have going there.)
                                      I wouldn't pay. In fact, I don't.

                                      All sorts of nuts have all sorts of schemes in place. They want you to follow this protocol. That procedure. These idiots want to charge you.

                                      I don't care. Either they comply with the RFC or they don't. That's a choice any webmaster makes for themselves, and I have no business with it. I send mail according to the RFC, and that's all I will ever do. If it doesn't make it, whoever doesn't get it needs to either fix their servers, fire their admins, or whatever other steps necessary.

                                      Otherwise, what am I to do, buy people computers and hire someone to maintain them ? Bollocks to that.

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                                        • nosey
                                          Talk Hard
                                          • Feb 2003
                                          • 14413
                                          #11
                                          insane

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                                            • warlock5
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2004
                                              • 2808
                                              #12
                                              If SpamArrest didn't do this, you do realize how easy it would be for spammers to bypass their system?

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                                                • TMM_John
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2004
                                                  • 6664
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by 3xTom
                                                  the bigger question is why are you in freds email
                                                  Where am I in Fred's email?


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                                                    • fris
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 55679
                                                      #14
                                                      Change your pop3 password, then you will get your msgs, spam arrest wont be able to do the filtering anymore.

                                                      I do all my spam filtering server side, I have had my email address since 1996 and maybe 3 or 4 spams get through a day.
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                                                        • beemk
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                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 20829
                                                          #15
                                                          thats bordeline blackmail
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                                                            • woj
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                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 47882
                                                              #16
                                                              that's f'ed up...
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                                                                • NETbilling
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                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 8598
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Jace
                                                                  that is NUTS

                                                                  anyone using a third party for their email spam filter is just as nuts though

                                                                  there are SO many free options available for anyone to use now, there is no point using a third party
                                                                  Can you list some please?


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                                                                    • tony299
                                                                      lurker
                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 57021
                                                                      #18
                                                                      thats fucked up.

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                                                                        • Phoenix
                                                                          BACON BACON BACON
                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                          • 35475
                                                                          #19
                                                                          spam arrest is for tweakers
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                                                                            • Phoenix
                                                                              BACON BACON BACON
                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                              • 35475
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                              Can you list some please?
                                                                              here is a free one

                                                                              create folder called inbox2

                                                                              put all emails there..then create rules for anyone important
                                                                              or who might be emailing you

                                                                              wollah..same shit as spam arrest
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                                                                                • Spunky
                                                                                  I need a beer
                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                  • 133986
                                                                                  #21
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                                                                                    • fluffygrrl
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • May 2006
                                                                                      • 2187
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by warlock5
                                                                                      If SpamArrest didn't do this, you do realize how easy it would be for spammers to bypass their system?
                                                                                      This is the sort of insane pseudo-reasoning that you get for letting the general public use the internet.

                                                                                      The fact that spamarrests "idea" is dysfunctional is NOT MY PROBLEM. Them trying to shore up their braindamaged implementation of it is also not my problem.

                                                                                      This is exactly the Bush argument : But sir, if we wouldn't bust into the houses of random innocent citizens and trash their furniture for absolutely no reason, do you know how hard it'd be to catch terrorists ?!?!?!

                                                                                      I don't give a shit. Catch them, or fail at catching them and I'll elect somebody else, but do not fuck up my furniture.

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                                                                                        • Iron Fist
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Dec 2006
                                                                                          • 23400
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                                                                          Does anyone else find this to be absolutely absurd?
                                                                                          You kidding right? You telling me you can't afford $24.95 a YEAR? What's a NATS install cost... $500 setup?
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                                                                                            • stickyfingerz
                                                                                              Doin fine
                                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                                              • 24984
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by sharphead
                                                                                              You kidding right? You telling me you can't afford $24.95 a YEAR? What's a NATS install cost... $500 setup?
                                                                                              Think you are missing the point of the post. Doesnt matter if it is .25 cents they are holding emails ransom.

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                                                                                                • CyberHustler
                                                                                                  Masterbaiter
                                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                                  • 28725
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by fluffygrrl
                                                                                                  This is the sort of insane pseudo-reasoning that you get for letting the general public use the internet.

                                                                                                  The fact that spamarrests "idea" is dysfunctional is NOT MY PROBLEM. Them trying to shore up their braindamaged implementation of it is also not my problem.

                                                                                                  This is exactly the Bush argument : But sir, if we wouldn't bust into the houses of random innocent citizens and trash their furniture for absolutely no reason, do you know how hard it'd be to catch terrorists ?!?!?!

                                                                                                  I don't give a shit. Catch them, or fail at catching them and I'll elect somebody else, but do not fuck up my furniture.
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                                                                                                    • oyvind
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                      • 63
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Isn't the email address you had blocked by spamarrest now the same one that hacked in to all your nats installs ?

                                                                                                      Link to refresh your memory http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=13547363&postcount=23
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                                                                                                        • tranza
                                                                                                          ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                                          • 57559
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          That's no good...
                                                                                                          I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                                            • TMM_John
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                                                              • 6664
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by oyvind
                                                                                                              Isn't the email address you had blocked by spamarrest now the same one that hacked in to all your nats installs ?

                                                                                                              Link to refresh your memory http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=13547363&postcount=23
                                                                                                              No, e-mail addresses do not do hacking, hackers do.

                                                                                                              Fred is our senior programmer, and his email was attached to the admin accounts which were involved with the security issue.


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                                                                                                                • baddog
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                  • 107089
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I wonder what the threshold is before the ransom demands begin.

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                                                                                                                    • Ayla_SquareTurtle
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                      • 3550
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      wow, that is total and complete BS. I guess I can sympathize with your need to keep in contact with your business associates no matter what the cost, but honestly, as an affiliate or client, I couldn't blame someone for not emailing me if it were MY stupid spam program fucking up. I worked with spam arrest with my first job in the industry and the back end was so slow it would have been faster to just manually filter out the spam as it came in. Crappy service from a shady company.
                                                                                                                      gone. long gone.

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                                                                                                                        • rowan
                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                          • 17393
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Hmm... I can kind of understand why they do this, I can't really think of any other way to "discourage" wholesale malicious use of their system... don't forget their customers are paying them to block unwanted mail, if it was possible to do a run and verify all the ones that hit SA in rapid fire succession then that defeats the purpose somewhat.

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                                                                                                                            • Due
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                              • 3620
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by rowan
                                                                                                                              Hmm... I can kind of understand why they do this, I can't really think of any other way to "discourage" wholesale malicious use of their system... don't forget their customers are paying them to block unwanted mail, if it was possible to do a run and verify all the ones that hit SA in rapid fire succession then that defeats the purpose somewhat.
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                                                                                                                              I am not too happy paying for a service to keep my inbox clean and at the same time senders is demanded a fee to mailing me also if it involve a subscription to newsletters that may contain important information about my business.
                                                                                                                              Normally I whitelist such domains where I expect it, however it does happend that people change sending domains for whatever reason it may be
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                                                                                                                                • ChatCash_Rob
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 749
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  I've had that before they implemented the $24.95 charge, I never had a problem after using a new i.p.
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                                                                                                                                    • FreeHugeMovies
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 14141
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      People who signup to programs using their spam arrest e mail accounts aren't the smartest.

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                                                                                                                                        • Azoy?
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                                          • 2178
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          sounds like they are holding you hostage
                                                                                                                                          tell them
                                                                                                                                          the service doesn't assure anything in terms of stoping spams to the people who use the service except if you as the email sender pay them and you can send emails

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                                                                                                                                            • BradM
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 3397
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              We do the same thing. I just have to manually do each one. Then wait 24 hours do more. Wait, more. I mean I'd pay the $25 without worry but it's the PRINCIPLE. It's a money grab operation.

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                                                                                                                                                • sortie
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                                                                                                  • 7771
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                                                                                                                                  Does anyone else find this to be absolutely absurd?

                                                                                                                                                  We sent an email out to our clients today. A number of them use spam arrest. After approving a few this error message came up:

                                                                                                                                                  People called me an idiot when I said I didn't want to click their spam arrest links.
                                                                                                                                                  Maybe they will read your post and re-think that.

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                                                                                                                                                    • F-U-Jimmy
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                      • 6853
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      I agree with those who think its totally wrong of spam arrest to make this adittional charge, in my book its extortion.
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                                                                                                                                                        • zabijaq
                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                                                          • 956
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Sound like they have advisors from Godaddy. Taking hostages

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                                                                                                                                                            • woj
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                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 47882
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
                                                                                                                                                              People who signup to programs using their spam arrest e mail accounts aren't the smartest.
                                                                                                                                                              hmm, isn't it the whole point? If you are giving the email just to your family and friends and people you know, what do you need spam arrest for then?
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                                                                                                                                                                • baddog
                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                  • 107089
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                                  I wonder what the threshold is before the ransom demands begin.
                                                                                                                                                                  No one ?

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                                                                                                                                                                    • FreeHugeMovies
                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 14141
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by woj
                                                                                                                                                                      hmm, isn't it the whole point? If you are giving the email just to your family and friends and people you know, what do you need spam arrest for then?
                                                                                                                                                                      You use one e mail addy for registration to programs. The other one you use with spam arrest. When companies send you e mails with [email protected] and you bounce them with spam arrest, you never end up getting them.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Zorgman
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 6103
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          That sucks John.

                                                                                                                                                                          Maybe it's time to add an extra fee per month for those clients that use spam arrest.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • NinjaSteve
                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 11089
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                                                                                                                                                              Does anyone else find this to be absolutely absurd?

                                                                                                                                                                              We sent an email out to our clients today. A number of them use spam arrest. After approving a few this error message came up:



                                                                                                                                                                              The link goes to: http://www.spamarrest.com/kssignup/index.jsp

                                                                                                                                                                              Upon completing the first form they want to charge us at least $24.95/year in order to email our customers who use their service!

                                                                                                                                                                              Here is the second form:



                                                                                                                                                                              I don't use your service, so I can't email people who do? They're going to hold my outgoing emails hostage until I pay them? Are they out of their minds?

                                                                                                                                                                              Any of our clients using SA please either whitelist *@toomuchmedia.com or please use a service that isn't going to charge us to email you.

                                                                                                                                                                              (We are of course paying the fee now as we need to in order to get our emails out. Lovely little racket they have going there.)
                                                                                                                                                                              That's some mafia action right there.
                                                                                                                                                                              ...

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                                                                                                                                                                                • bdld
                                                                                                                                                                                  $100,000
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 11452
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  never heard of that before. every time i see nasty cross sells in adult, i never forget mainstream does the same BS.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • The Duck
                                                                                                                                                                                      Adult Content Provider
                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 18243
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      I use them, but im phasing them out right now.
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