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Old 03-27-2008, 11:40 AM   #51
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:43 AM   #52
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Everyone shoud check this movie: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103

It's called Fitna the Movie, and is made by a Dutch politican that wants to show about how Muslims encourage violence etc.

More info about this movie at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/7317506.stm

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Old 03-27-2008, 11:49 AM   #53
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Stupidest thing I ever read. Jesus never preached any of those things, quite the opposite on all accounts.
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man?s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39 NASB)

Try reading the Bible some time, this is just one example...
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:51 AM   #54
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Funny how Americans get all bent out of shape over "violence"

Ever hear about how your country was founded, or how it came to be, or how it's conducted itself over the last 200 years?

There was some violence, I'll spoil it for you.
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:53 AM   #55
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"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26).
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:12 PM   #56
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Really? So what happens to all the muslims, hindus, taoists, buddhists, and people of other faiths, when they die?

Any real Christian will tell you plainly - They go to hell, to burn daily for eternity.
What does that have to do with the point I made about Jesus preaching the opposite of war, hate, discrimination, etc?
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:15 PM   #57
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Islam is a Peaceful Religion ... ????
Such term as "Peaceful Religion" is a nonsense. ANY religion is not peaceful by default, because all the religions were designed for other purpose.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:17 PM   #58
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"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man?s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39 NASB)

Try reading the Bible some time, this is just one example...
Regardless of what some parts of the bible may say, or how those parts may be interpreted by those who wrongly believe in a vengeful god, Jesus main teachings were about peace, love, forgiveness (mainly of your enemies and those who did you wrong), and the equality of men and women.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:22 PM   #59
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Regardless of what some parts of the bible may say, or how those parts may be interpreted by those who wrongly believe in a vengeful god, Jesus main teachings were about peace, love, forgiveness (mainly of your enemies and those who did you wrong), and the equality of men and women.
Regardless, what Jesus was teaching and what Religion is, or has become, are two completely different things. I don't see any non-religious people holding up signs that say "God Hate Fags", etc.

I haven't heard of any non-religious Presidents saying "God told me to attack Iraq"

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Old 03-27-2008, 12:29 PM   #60
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How did this go into a "This god is better than that god" discussion?

Fuck the god's...
Religeon is a poison.

I just want more dead Islamics for fucks sakes.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:37 PM   #61
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Regardless, what Jesus was teaching and what Religion is, or has become, are two completely different things. I don't see any non-religious people holding up signs that say "God Hate Fags", etc.

I haven't heard of any non-religious Presidents saying "God told me to attack Iraq"
People who hold up those signs or say things like "God told me to attack Iraq" are radical christian protestants, mainly Baptists and the sort. Christianity in the united states is a complete distortion of what Jesus originally taught. Jesus lived among outsiders, so how a handful of idiots wants to interpret his teachings should not represent the real, positive aspects of the religion.

I think that a lot of gfyers are so intolarant of religion because they are bombarded with images, speeches and demonstrations of protestants in the United States.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:41 PM   #62
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The problem is how Muslims interpret the Quran. Christians understand it is a question of faith, Muslims will tell you it is an absolute. It is not a question of belief but of knowing. And if you don't know then your heart does not have the will to see God. They site the passages in the Quran that describe the different phases of pregnancy and the fact that the Quran is PERFECT grammatically. Disprove those and the religion will collapse. To the Quran's credit though, no one has been yet able to declare it imperfect.

Am I the only one that hangs out in Islamic chat rooms? You have to understand your enemy to defeat him. Not saying that all muslims are our enemies but it certainly goes well beyond a fringe group.


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Old 03-27-2008, 03:09 PM   #66
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You have to understand your enemy to defeat him. Not saying that all muslims are our enemies but it certainly goes well beyond a fringe group.
There is no need to have an enemy, after all we all share the same planet.
Violence only generates more violence, hatred only generates more hatred.

There's a nice saying that says: 'To make war in order to defend peace is like making an orgy to defend virginity.'

Many leaders say 'It's God's will' or 'It's Allah's will'. They also say 'we who are God's children...' as if the others were not God's children.

Just to put an example... Osama and Bush are just the same shit with a different outfit, they only care about the destruction of the other, regardless of all the people they deceive and of all the people who die in their stupid crusades!

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I could answer the idiot who claims to have ?analyzed the Muslim/Islamic culture and Texts? by telling him there are more Muslims in China alone than in whole Middle East (where he believes ?Muslims are burning each other?). That alone would ruin his ?majority of Muslims are terrorists?.
I never said ANYTHING about Muslim/Islamic geography. Assuming there are a lot in China - SO WHAT (That was Not The Question).

I also never said anything about the Middle East either - YOU DID... So, all that means is YOU Made the connection with the Middle East (Not me).


One thing that is CONSTANTLY said by Muslims when arguing is: "How BIG it is and How It's Taking Over". THEY ALWAYS SAY THAT!!!

So, You lived right up to that stereotype expectation - Good Job!



Let's assume that Islam is The Biggest... and it IS Taking Over...

... So Were The Nazis on their rise to power.

... Are you firing up the ovens to burn us non-believers/infidels.???

or are you just going to out breed the rest of the world?




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WE OWN YOUR ASS!!!!!
Out of the 9 Nuclear Capable Countries - Only 1 can be considered Muslim/Islamic(and that's Pakistan).

How does 1 VS 8 - OWN the Planet??

You've got that backwards among other things such as women being considered property. Women are basically slaves in Islamic Culture (try and argue that one ).


So, with 8 to 1 in mind... how much of the planet will be Muslim if the Real Bombs go off (not the strap-on kind)???





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WE ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP US
So apparently - Hitler was wrong: You and the Muslims are - THE MASTER RACE.


Everyone make sure and give this guy a Clear Nazi Salute... since he has clearly reinforced the Existence of the "Extremist" Stereotype.


I have Muslim friends and they are NOTHING Like you.

All you've accomplished in your idiotic post is that the Extremists DO Exist and they DO have a "Take Over The World" mentality.


Thanks for Confirming Everything



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i'll make it short: shut up.

WHY do you want me to "Shut Up" ???

Don't you even want to say something like: "Hey, every religion has it's Extremists" ??

Don't you even want to say you are against violence??


Or don?t you know how ???
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