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Old 03-23-2008, 06:43 PM   #1
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This is what the world's first Time Machine may look like

Never heard of "traversable wormholes?"
Well, soon you might start hearing about them, as the world's most powerful particle accelerator becomes functional this spring - unleashing forces, capable of distorting not only space (just like gravity distorts space around Earth), but also TIME.

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2008...-particle.html
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There's a very small chance that turning this on may create antimatter. The idea is that if this happens, it will cease to exist.

However, there's maybe a 0.00009% chance it'll destroy the universe. Sleep well!
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Old 03-23-2008, 07:08 PM   #4
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interesting....I wonder who will be the first human to step into it.
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interesting....I wonder who will be the first human to step into it.
Samuel Beckett.
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While I'm all for scientific advancement - I can't help but wonder how many people could have been fed for the money that's been pumped in to that project.

Hopefully it'll produce something beneficial to mankind in the future and justify its massive expenditure.
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Dude, experiments like that one are the exact kind of experiments that lead to giant technological improvements ie the computer you're working on.

There's a chance that it will destroy the Universe, but that's very unlikely, theres a chance that right now you might be typing and have your entire hand pass through your keyboard, but its also very unlikely.

What that machine will attempt to do though is prove the existence of the particles that are responsible for gravity. By smashing together particles, and then measuring the energy given off they can calculate the loss of energy and attribute that to 'gravitons' briefly appearing before going into another dimension!

It's crazy stuff and it's a hugely exciting thing for people that know what its all about, the questions it could answer can prove some crazy theories about how the world works!
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While I'm all for scientific advancement - I can't help but wonder how many people could have been fed for the money that's been pumped in to that project.

Hopefully it'll produce something beneficial to mankind in the future and justify its massive expenditure.
I understand your POV, but check out what a National Geographic writer said in an answer to the same question.....

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The cynic might say that there's no practical use for any of this, that there might be other uses for all the money and brainpower going into these particle guns. But we live in a civilization shaped by physics. We know that the forces within an atom are so powerful that, unleashed and directed against humanity, they can obliterate cities in an instant. The laptop computer on which I'm writing uses microprocessors that would not exist had we not discovered quantum physics and the quirky behavior of electrons. This story will be posted on the World Wide Web?invented, in case you hadn't heard, at CERN, by computer scientist Tim Berners-Lee. Maybe you're reading it while listening to your iPod, which wouldn't exist but for something called "giant magnetoresistance." Two physicists discovered it independently in the late 1980s, with not much thought of how it might eventually be used. It became crucial to making tiny consumer electronics that used magnetized hard disks. The physicists won a Nobel Prize in 2007, and you got a nifty sound system that's smaller than a Hershey bar.
Just food for thought.


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I read something about a star 100x larger than our sun exploding in the universe, vaporizing all the planets around it.

One light year is 5,865,696,000,000 miles, and it was something like 85 million light years away from earth..

What??
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While I'm all for scientific advancement - I can't help but wonder how many people could have been fed for the money that's been pumped in to that project.

Hopefully it'll produce something beneficial to mankind in the future and justify its massive expenditure.
That's nothing compared to the cost of trying to implement the useless and unnecessary Kyoto accord:

http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps..._Count_Up.html

Besides, we wouldn't be human if we weren't constantly trying to explore and discover new things. I think that's what makes us different from the other animals.
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Holy shit ya read the extrapulation of potential danger?


"The CERN study [Ref. 1] is a remake of a similar study for the earlier Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider at Brookhaven (RHIC) [Ref. 6] adapted to the LHC.

It is important to notice that: The study for the RHIC had concluded that no black holes will be created. For the LHC the conclusion is very different: "Black holes could be created!" !

The main danger could be now just behind our door with the possible death in blood of 6.500.000.000 (US notation 6,500,000,000) people and complete destruction of our beautiful planet. Such a danger shows the need of a far larger study before any experiment ! The CERN study presents risk as a choice between a 100&#37; risk or a 0% risk. This is not a good evaluation of a risk percentage!

If we add all the risks for the LHC we could estimate an overall risk between 11% and 25%!.

We are far from the Adrian Kent's admonition that global risks that should not exceed 0.000001% a year to have a chance to be acceptable. [Ref. 3] .Even testing the LHC could be dangerous. Even an increase in the luminosity of the RHIC could be dangerous! It would be wise to consider that the more powerful the accelerator will be, the more unpredicted and dangerous the events that may occur! We cannot build accelerators always more powerful with interactions different from natural interactions, without risk. This is not a scientific problem. This is a wisdom problem!

Our desire of knowledge is important but our desire of wisdom is more important and must take precedence. The precautionary principle indicates not to experiment. The politicians must understand this evidence and stop these experiments before it is too late!"

http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/anon1.htm

THere is alot on that document. In short what these guys are finalising is a death sentence for the planet.

Estimate anywhere between 7% chance to 25% chance of planetary extinction.

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ahh that risk shit is bs.

Smart old asian physics guy has said that tiny amounts of anti matter could like power shit for a long ass time. He did also say making a teaspoon would bankrupt the US but fuck it we already are so I see no harm.
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Oh plus I heard from other physics people who specialise in black holes that it would indeed be the most interesting way to die ever. The whole stretching and falling apart at a molecular level would just be an insane ride.
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get ready.. GFY basement scientists are going to start shooting holes in those 7,000 physicists.. brace yourself..

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We all have our time machines, don't we. Those that take us back are memories... And those that carry us forward, are dreams.
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This will blow your mind.
Actually it did blow my mind. I've been thinking of this stuff since yesterday. My world view is messed up now, lol!
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I read something about a star 100x larger than our sun exploding in the universe, vaporizing all the planets around it.

One light year is 5,865,696,000,000 miles, and it was something like 85 million light years away from earth..

What??
Actually it was 7 BILLION light years. So basically it exploded 2.5 bilion years before our sun even existed.
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This will blow your mind.
Pretty fucked up shit alright.
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Actually it did blow my mind. I've been thinking of this stuff since yesterday. My world view is messed up now, lol!
Nah, think of it like this. If you have a son, you're a father, but to your father you're a son. Now you are you so how can you be both or either? But you are. And depending on who is observing you( your son or your father ) are are perceived as one or the other. Same type thing.
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I wonder if anyone will be covering their balls when they turn it on...
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Nah, think of it like this. If you have a son, you're a father, but to your father you're a son. Now you are you so how can you be both or either? But you are. And depending on who is observing you( your son or your father ) are are perceived as one or the other. Same type thing.
He was talking about the quantum physics experiment I linked to:



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He was talking about the quantum physics experiment I linked to:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/qu...now/3259712820
Yes that was I was repsonding to. I watched the video. I was trying to put in terms you could understand. It's call ANALOGY. Yes it's very interesting. I like this kind of stuff. I am however not perplexed by this.
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Yes that was I was repsonding to. I watched the video. I was trying to put in terms you could understand. It's call ANALOGY. Yes it's very interesting. I like this kind of stuff. I am however not perplexed by this.
Oh, sorry, I missundestood your post. Yeah, I like stuff like this too. Did you see the movie that clip is from, "What the bleep do we know"?
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Hopefully it'll produce something beneficial to mankind in the future and justify its massive expenditure.
That guy that came back from the future to make 300 million in the stock market.
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There's a very small chance that turning this on may create antimatter. The idea is that if this happens, it will cease to exist.

However, there's maybe a 0.00009% chance it'll destroy the universe. Sleep well!
Antimatter has long been created by weaker accelerators. It will simply annihilate a corresponding matter particle and issue some energy - not really that much, given the tiny masses involved.

And it has nothing to do with time-space warping, either.
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