Do you earn more or less money than 1 year ago ? - GoFuckYourself.com

polish_aristocrat · 03-20-2008, 04:13 AM

see title

klinton · 03-20-2008, 04:16 AM

20 % less

After Shock Media · 03-20-2008, 04:24 AM

I earn more but I also am working a hell of a lot more than last year as well. Though last year sucked ass for me health wise. Yet my ass got handed to me a few days ago when I learned I needed to hook up two rental units to the city sewer system. That was a quick way to put out over 30k and never ever see any value from it really, ok maybe a tiny bit if I ever sell but honestly I will not and even if I did it would be minimal.

pornmasta · 03-20-2008, 04:31 AM

more but i'm working more...

Klen · 03-20-2008, 04:39 AM

I earn much much more but again not enough yet.

polish_aristocrat · 03-20-2008, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

I earn much much more but again not enough yet.

well yeah, but you're a new guy, so you can be easily growing even if the industry is in decline (i remember reading a few months ago that 2007 was the first year where online porn sales were in decline, not sure how accurate that information was)

in fact anyone can still increase their income and market share even if the overall industry sales are declining... but assuming they are indeed declining, then if the number of webmasters stays the same, then there must be many who suffer from income loss

klinton · 03-20-2008, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton

20 % less

due to usd

Farang · 03-20-2008, 06:19 AM

Less... But lesson learned: never sell anything what makes you money

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-20-2008, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton

due to usd

Good point.

The Sultan Of Smut · 03-20-2008, 06:25 AM

Crappy exchange = less

CarlosTheGaucho · 03-20-2008, 06:46 AM

About the same but there are good things in prospect.

RadiantX · 03-20-2008, 06:55 AM

my sales suck this year. my income has dropped 20% despite a 40% increase in traffic. I dont know if its because of the shitty economy w/ folks saving their money or just an increase in competition.

IllTestYourGirls · 03-20-2008, 06:57 AM

More but I am new

Zester · 03-20-2008, 07:01 AM

this year I managed to work less and smarter
experience I think.
but it's not much more than last year because of the fucking dollar downfall

nico-t · 03-20-2008, 07:11 AM

more even though the dollar became hella shittier... hope dollar will go back up soon

woj · 03-20-2008, 08:08 AM

more

RadiantX · 03-20-2008, 08:12 AM

nice to know everyone is making more this year but me! LOL

at least its encouraging to know the economy isnt hitting the adult industry as hard as expected

Xrated J · 03-20-2008, 08:21 AM

if your income isnt going up from year to year, your doin somthin wrong

CurrentlySober · 03-20-2008, 08:22 AM

Slightly less, but down to the exchange rate.

RadiantX · 03-20-2008, 08:23 AM

Well according to my top 3 sponsors (primarily cams) who I keep in close contact with.....they said the drop in earnings is across the board. Which led me to believe it was due to the state of the economy. Guess its time to venture out into other genres of the adult biz....

tranza · 03-20-2008, 08:44 AM

Pretty much the same because of the weak dollar. Otherwise I would be making more.

lhizy_05 · 03-20-2008, 08:49 AM

happy to say earn more, not bad...

signupdamnit · 03-20-2008, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

more but i'm working more...

ditto

8char

Emma · 03-20-2008, 09:18 AM

less

VeriSexy · 03-20-2008, 07:02 PM

Slighyly more then last year.. even with the shitty dollar

polish_aristocrat · 03-23-2008, 11:20 AM

OK, looks like 50% of GFY earns more than 1 year ago

Violetta · 03-23-2008, 11:37 AM

more, but not in adult!

SuzzyQ · 03-23-2008, 01:43 PM

Slightly more.. Working smarter and spending less time on GFY..

Vick! · 03-23-2008, 03:27 PM

I work less and earn more.

tony286 · 03-23-2008, 03:28 PM

same with more work

snaker · 03-23-2008, 03:38 PM

good post

a bit more, but im still new to the biz..im just biding my time till the china billers open up

Diligent · 03-23-2008, 06:02 PM

More, but less in adult...

Declines in adult bothered me a couple of years ago, but now doesn't.
On the contrary actually, since;

I've seen some negative trends (which both I myself and others have foreseen) blooming more the past two years or so... so due to worries back then I decided
to do some planning for other stuff, and that stuff is bearing fruit enough now for me to get into that full force - so it's pretty good.

I hated the idea of being "locked into" adult when things started slowing down and got more demanding.
I prefer to only do whatever I do if I can see viability in it for me, for at least say.. 5 years ahead.
Adult for the most part just isn't cutting it enough for me anymore.

Hints for anyone interested, and this is the only thing I'll ever mention about it except for close old friends:

* Move within more classic "offline" business, which *can* be implemented online in new ways, or at least benefit substantially in any way from an online presence.
* Promote other businesses less, promote Yours more.
* DO use advertisers on Your stuff, but know *Your* customers well and make sure You don't let potential competitors slip into the advertising.

If You're "elite" in SEO, and think You can stay that way no matter what, I think You can still work with pretty much anything...
Otherwise I'd advise anyone asking to rethink the viability of their affiliate promotion business model (as in promoting other programs).

Barefootsies · 03-23-2008, 06:04 PM

I've doubled sales every year the past three. This year is already off to a good start.

I always wondered why many on gfy keep claiming they are losing their ass with each new year?

Pornopat · 03-23-2008, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I've doubled sales every year the past three. This year is already off to a good start.

I always wondered why many on gfy keep claiming they are losing their ass with each new year?

So did I dor the first three years....

Diligent · 03-23-2008, 06:22 PM

Barefootsies:
Of course it all depends much on what exactly You're doing - I have no idea whether You're working more, or refined Your "production" - maybe without even noticing..

I'm just talking out of my own perspective; what I've been doing keeps getting more demanding, thus I have to work harder to compensate.
And that doesn't fit in with *how I* want to work, so I'd be dumb to not get into other stuff.

For all You who keep doing better in adult, I salute You.. ;)
Keep rockin' it!

Barefootsies · 03-23-2008, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornopat

So did I dor the first three years....

I've been in business for 10.

Barefootsies · 03-23-2008, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diligent

Barefootsies:
Of course it all depends much on what exactly You're doing - I have no idea whether You're working more, or refined Your "production" - maybe without even noticing..

I'm just talking out of my own perspective; what I've been doing keeps getting more demanding, thus I have to work harder to compensate.
And that doesn't fit in with *how I* want to work, so I'd be dumb to not get into other stuff.

For all You who keep doing better in adult, I salute You.. ;)
Keep rockin' it!

I am getting into other stuff, mainstream, as well. So I do not think the future is secure in adult. I basically use it to finance other ventures online, and not while the going is good.

I work a LOT less that I did last year, or 3, 5, 10 years ago. Back then it was 7 days a week, 12-18 hour days (when started full time online 4+ years ago and left the 9-5). When I was working the 9-5, it was still the long work days. Come home, work on adult until I passed out.

Now, between scripts, and refining where I spend my time and energy. I work about 1-2 hours a day, if that, 5 days a week. This doesn't include doing photo shoots. Just the maintaining. But I work a lot less, and make more.

But as you pointed out, maybe a lot of it is just knowing where to put my time and investment. Versus chasing your tail throwing money and time at everything hoping enough shit will stick.

Fap · 03-23-2008, 09:42 PM

more more def more

Lykos · 03-23-2008, 10:13 PM

I make much more $$$ but consedering dollar went down for 20 % from last year,lol

J. Falcon · 03-23-2008, 10:26 PM

Thankfully more.

TheMaster · 03-26-2008, 10:34 AM

more but working more, also dollar-euro conversion wipes out a lot of the gains

BradM · 03-26-2008, 10:48 AM

30% more.

WZRogeR · 03-26-2008, 11:09 AM

More, more, more

Scott McD · 03-26-2008, 11:13 AM

Probably more, but not by much.

It's hard to tell when you have good months and bad months...

Jenny S. · 03-26-2008, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadiantX

my sales suck this year. my income has dropped 20% despite a 40% increase in traffic. I dont know if its because of the shitty economy w/ folks saving their money or just an increase in competition.

It's because of the economy, the USD, and jackasses ripping and posting whole sites on Rapidshare. I've been trying to point that problem out for a year in here but nobody seems to give a rats ass. Why pay if you can download 10 terrabytes for free every day?

I make approx. the same but with a lot more work. I also have a loyal fan base, both in the US and Europe with my main sites, so I don't depend that much on traffic and conversions.

L-Pink · 03-26-2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AAK

Less... But lesson learned: never sell anything what makes you money

Very good advise.

ADL Colin · 03-26-2008, 12:11 PM

Many of those who were earning less are not posting anymore.

marko13 · 03-26-2008, 12:57 PM

i earn more ... but i work more too... earn more by 50% and work more by 100%... i can't believe in that...

pornguy · 03-26-2008, 01:01 PM

More. And I hope to add to it.

Nookster · 03-26-2008, 01:07 PM

Working less and making more. Mainstream has always been my bread and butter. Adult though, I'm making just a slight bit more than last year so far.

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03-20-2008, 04:13 AM	#1
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Do you earn more or less money than 1 year ago ? see title __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

03-20-2008, 04:24 AM	#3
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	I earn more but I also am working a hell of a lot more than last year as well. Though last year sucked ass for me health wise. Yet my ass got handed to me a few days ago when I learned I needed to hook up two rental units to the city sewer system. That was a quick way to put out over 30k and never ever see any value from it really, ok maybe a tiny bit if I ever sell but honestly I will not and even if I did it would be minimal. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

03-20-2008, 06:19 AM	#8
Farang one sick puppy Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Where the worst of the West meets the worst of the East Posts: 11,566	Less... But lesson learned: never sell anything what makes you money __________________ i sale uncensored chatbots

03-20-2008, 06:46 AM	#11
CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,512	About the same but there are good things in prospect. __________________ CTG Media \| skype: carlosprague \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Want to make more with your Dating Traffic? \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles \| Did your ad revenue drop by 40 pct. or more last year?

03-20-2008, 04:16 AM	#2
klinton So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: online Posts: 8,766	20 % less

03-20-2008, 04:31 AM	#4
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,231	more but i'm working more...

03-20-2008, 04:39 AM	#5
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	I earn much much more but again not enough yet.

03-20-2008, 06:25 AM	#10
The Sultan Of Smut Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,325	Crappy exchange = less

03-20-2008, 06:55 AM	#12
RadiantX Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: FL Posts: 550	my sales suck this year. my income has dropped 20% despite a 40% increase in traffic. I dont know if its because of the shitty economy w/ folks saving their money or just an increase in competition.

03-20-2008, 06:57 AM	#13
IllTestYourGirls Ah My Balls Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 Posts: 14,311	More but I am new __________________

03-20-2008, 07:01 AM	#14
Zester Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,344	this year I managed to work less and smarter experience I think. but it's not much more than last year because of the fucking dollar downfall __________________ * Mainstream ? $65 per sale * new male contraception

03-20-2008, 07:11 AM	#15
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	more even though the dollar became hella shittier... hope dollar will go back up soon

03-20-2008, 08:08 AM	#16
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	more __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

03-20-2008, 08:12 AM	#17
RadiantX Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: FL Posts: 550	nice to know everyone is making more this year but me! LOL at least its encouraging to know the economy isnt hitting the adult industry as hard as expected

03-20-2008, 08:21 AM	#18
Xrated J Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 4,347	if your income isnt going up from year to year, your doin somthin wrong

03-20-2008, 08:22 AM	#19
CurrentlySober Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom Posts: 38,646	Slightly less, but down to the exchange rate. __________________ My AI Handywork... My Dream Gal... XXX 👁️ 👍️ 💩

03-20-2008, 08:23 AM	#20
RadiantX Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: FL Posts: 550	Well according to my top 3 sponsors (primarily cams) who I keep in close contact with.....they said the drop in earnings is across the board. Which led me to believe it was due to the state of the economy. Guess its time to venture out into other genres of the adult biz....

03-20-2008, 08:44 AM	#21
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Pretty much the same because of the weak dollar. Otherwise I would be making more. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

03-20-2008, 08:49 AM	#22
lhizy_05 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 379	happy to say earn more, not bad...

03-20-2008, 09:18 AM	#24
Emma Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,288	less

03-20-2008, 07:02 PM	#25
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03-23-2008, 11:20 AM	#26
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	OK, looks like 50% of GFY earns more than 1 year ago __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

03-23-2008, 11:37 AM	#27
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	more, but not in adult! __________________ M&A Queen

03-23-2008, 01:43 PM	#28
SuzzyQ Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Along the shore. Posts: 1,557	Slightly more.. Working smarter and spending less time on GFY..

03-23-2008, 03:27 PM	#29
Vick! Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 20 00'24.00" N, 75 09'00.00 W Posts: 6,882	I work less and earn more. __________________ Affordable Quality Web Hosting

03-23-2008, 03:28 PM	#30
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	same with more work

03-23-2008, 03:38 PM	#31
snaker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,281	good post a bit more, but im still new to the biz..im just biding my time till the china billers open up __________________ My Best Sponsors: Naughty Revenue \| Get Score Cash \| Thick Cash

03-23-2008, 06:02 PM	#32
Diligent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hoy Suecia, mañana Nirvana Posts: 1,594	More, but less in adult... Declines in adult bothered me a couple of years ago, but now doesn't. On the contrary actually, since; I've seen some negative trends (which both I myself and others have foreseen) blooming more the past two years or so... so due to worries back then I decided to do some planning for other stuff, and that stuff is bearing fruit enough now for me to get into that full force - so it's pretty good. I hated the idea of being "locked into" adult when things started slowing down and got more demanding. I prefer to only do whatever I do if I can see viability in it for me, for at least say.. 5 years ahead. Adult for the most part just isn't cutting it enough for me anymore. Hints for anyone interested, and this is the only thing I'll ever mention about it except for close old friends: * Move within more classic "offline" business, which can be implemented online in new ways, or at least benefit substantially in any way from an online presence. * Promote other businesses less, promote Yours more. * DO use advertisers on Your stuff, but know Your customers well and make sure You don't let potential competitors slip into the advertising. If You're "elite" in SEO, and think You can stay that way no matter what, I think You can still work with pretty much anything... Otherwise I'd advise anyone asking to rethink the viability of their affiliate promotion business model (as in promoting other programs). __________________ ~¤~ MORE MONEY ~¤~ VOD? XoD! ~¤~ ~¤~ ICQ# 9828 2461 ~¤~ Last edited by Diligent; 03-23-2008 at 06:03 PM..

03-23-2008, 06:04 PM	#33
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	I've doubled sales every year the past three. This year is already off to a good start. I always wondered why many on gfy keep claiming they are losing their ass with each new year? __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

03-23-2008, 06:22 PM	#35
Diligent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hoy Suecia, mañana Nirvana Posts: 1,594	Barefootsies: Of course it all depends much on what exactly You're doing - I have no idea whether You're working more, or refined Your "production" - maybe without even noticing.. I'm just talking out of my own perspective; what I've been doing keeps getting more demanding, thus I have to work harder to compensate. And that doesn't fit in with how I want to work, so I'd be dumb to not get into other stuff. For all You who keep doing better in adult, I salute You.. ;) Keep rockin' it! __________________ ~¤~ MORE MONEY ~¤~ VOD? XoD! ~¤~ ~¤~ ICQ# 9828 2461 ~¤~

03-23-2008, 09:42 PM	#38
Fap Just Du It Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12,094	more more def more

03-23-2008, 10:13 PM	#39
Lykos Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: World Posts: 31,027	I make much more $$$ but consedering dollar went down for 20 % from last year,lol __________________

03-23-2008, 10:26 PM	#40
J. Falcon www.AdultCopywriters.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 31,618	Thankfully more. __________________ Adult Copywriters SEO Content for Porn Sites sales at adultcopywriters dot com

03-26-2008, 10:34 AM	#41
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