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cranki 03-20-2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 13948174)
whats the situation?

yeah, cliffnotes of the prologue, please!

Wagerboy 03-20-2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 13948227)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh that was good man.

commonsense 03-20-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 13946529)
So then there is nothing right with VOD companies having domain names for every studio and creating WLs for them to increase their exposure and only show their brand, studios, and movies on the whitelabels in turn which increases sales and the studios minutes viewed?

You obviously don't understand this thread at all. Though bonus points for trying to relate it to your business model. :upsidedow

BVF 03-20-2008 03:49 PM

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L-Pink 03-20-2008 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 13946529)
So then there is nothing right with VOD companies having domain names for every studio and creating WLs for them to increase their exposure and only show their brand, studios, and movies on the whitelabels in turn which increases sales and the studios minutes viewed?

One can justify anything ... but that doesn't make it right.

gideongallery 03-20-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 13944150)
So why would you have control of that domain without my pre-approval? Does the name "Lightspeed" have any meaning in the porn biz that isn't directly related to my company?

oh my god so now you own the word "lightspeed"

there are hundreds of uses for lightspeedtube.com that have absolutely nothing to do with your company

from sci-fi aspect to the impression of lightning fast downloads.

this is almost as bad as your tawney.com rant.

Robbie 03-20-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13948531)
oh my god so now you own the word "lightspeed"

there are hundreds of uses for lightspeedtube.com that have absolutely nothing to do with your company

from sci-fi aspect to the impression of lightning fast downloads.

this is almost as bad as your tawney.com rant.

Steve is not saying he OWNS the word "lightspeed" He is saying it is trademarked. Which means that he DOES own it in the world of online porn and probably brick and mortar porn as well. You can't infringe on a trademarked term that is used in the same line of business.

SteveLightspeed 03-20-2008 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13948531)
oh my god so now you own the word "lightspeed"

there are hundreds of uses for lightspeedtube.com that have absolutely nothing to do with your company

from sci-fi aspect to the impression of lightning fast downloads.

this is almost as bad as your tawney.com rant.

PLEASE FUCK OFF Gideon, don't I hear your Mommy calling? You are a real piece of fucking shit.

pocketkangaroo 03-20-2008 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13948531)
oh my god so now you own the word "lightspeed"

there are hundreds of uses for lightspeedtube.com that have absolutely nothing to do with your company

from sci-fi aspect to the impression of lightning fast downloads.

this is almost as bad as your tawney.com rant.

In the world of porn, according to the U.S. Government, he does own the term.

gideongallery 03-20-2008 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 13948592)
Steve is not saying he OWNS the word "lightspeed" He is saying it is trademarked. Which means that he DOES own it in the world of online porn and probably brick and mortar porn as well. You can't infringe on a trademarked term that is used in the same line of business.

and exactly what adult content was the domain pointing too

xNetworx 03-20-2008 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13948710)
and exactly what adult content was the domain pointing too

http://www.timewarp-toys.com/troll.jpg

Robbie 03-20-2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13948710)
and exactly what adult content was the domain pointing too

Steve never said it did. He asked him WHAT his plans were. And I think it's pretty obvious that when you are building a new site to exclusively sell tube traffic, and you are building a network of tube sites at the same time....that domain would be best used to promote Lightspeed Cash. And that would require Steve's permission, which he wouldn't grant. Instead he would ask for that domain to be transferred to him. As is his right.
Point is that unless you are going to have NO porn at all on that domain...it legally belongs to Steve. I don't know you, but if you do own any domains and/or produce content and/or are an actual person in the business of pornography...you should know this already.

Chio 03-20-2008 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 13948856)
Steve never said it did. He asked him WHAT his plans were. And I think it's pretty obvious that when you are building a new site to exclusively sell tube traffic, and you are building a network of tube sites at the same time....that domain would be best used to promote Lightspeed Cash. And that would require Steve's permission, which he wouldn't grant. Instead he would ask for that domain to be transferred to him. As is his right.
Point is that unless you are going to have NO porn at all on that domain...it legally belongs to Steve. I don't know you, but if you do own any domains and/or produce content and/or are an actual person in the business of pornography...you should know this already.

He seems to have a grudge against Steve for some reason and is trying to take jabs.

I *hope* so anyway. If not someone needs to get out the tard stick.

GTS Mark 03-20-2008 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 13944303)
Cliff notes: It was a dinosaur joke. It isn't really about the domain name. Where the domain name linked to is the joke. A segue from the other topic.

Ding Ding Ding!!!

We have a winner!!!! :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Apparently no one else checked the registration date except for you. Kudos! :thumbsup

aico 03-20-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST (Post 13948955)
Ding Ding Ding!!!

We have a winner!!!! :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Apparently no one else checked the registration date except for you. Kudos! :thumbsup

hopefully you won't get owned as bad as you did from Hustler.

SteveLightspeed 03-20-2008 06:00 PM

DH, I got a joke for you. Checked yet to see if your room is still held for you at the Forum? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

aico 03-20-2008 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 13948961)
DH, I got a joke for you. Checked yet to see if your room is still held for you at the Forum? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

Chio 03-20-2008 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 13948961)
DH, I got a joke for you. Checked yet to see if your room is still held for you at the Forum? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/wp-c...01/shocked.jpg

GTS Mark 03-20-2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 13948961)
DH, I got a joke for you. Checked yet to see if your room is still held for you at the Forum? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I checked in under a different name...

My check in name is "Dr Hannibal T Zango".

LOL!

GTS Mark 03-20-2008 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 13948961)
DH, I got a joke for you. Checked yet to see if your room is still held for you at the Forum? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

BTW one of your biggest affiliates is bunking with me...

Not kidding :upsidedow

Sebastian Sands 03-20-2008 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 13948961)
DH, I got a joke for you. Checked yet to see if your room is still held for you at the Forum? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

OUCH... I can use a room there btw:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

BusterBunny 03-20-2008 06:07 PM

101 :disgust

VeriSexy 03-20-2008 06:08 PM

the on going saga continues

RAM 03-20-2008 06:10 PM

Just keeps getting better !!!

gideongallery 03-20-2008 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 13948856)
Steve never said it did. He asked him WHAT his plans were. And I think it's pretty obvious that when you are building a new site to exclusively sell tube traffic, and you are building a network of tube sites at the same time....that domain would be best used to promote Lightspeed Cash. And that would require Steve's permission, which he wouldn't grant. Instead he would ask for that domain to be transferred to him. As is his right.
Point is that unless you are going to have NO porn at all on that domain...it legally belongs to Steve. I don't know you, but if you do own any domains and/or produce content and/or are an actual person in the business of pornography...you should know this already.


actually i suggest you go back to the first page
he registered the domain name to poke fun at steve by pointing it to the wiki on dinasaurs.


and steves response was

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 13944150)
So why would you have control of that domain without my pre-approval? Does the name "Lightspeed" have any meaning in the porn biz that isn't directly related to my company?

if he wanted to be a real jack ass about he could easily skirt the "lightspeed" trademark

he could fund an enterprise tube script, that say for example leveraged the bit torrent streaming protocol that significantly improves speed and allows you to stream hd quality movies at a fraction of the cost.

he could link to all the adult and main stream tube sites and he still would be outside the scope of "lightspeed" trademark.

he was making a joke, if he wanted to screw steve he easily could have.

Robbie 03-20-2008 06:29 PM

gideongallery, I have no idea who you are and I don't want to sound disrespectful to you...but I am aware that it was linked to the definition of dinosaur. That wasn't the point. You made a derogatory remark to Steve about trying to "own" the word lightspeed.
I merely pointed out to you, that if Steve has that trademarked for his sites...then he DOES own it in the world of pornography.
And he is well within his rights to ask another webmaster who makes his living through the world of porn WHY he would register a domain.
Now if DH were the owner of an ice cream company, or a car manufacturer...then Steve probably wouldn't ask that question. But since he is who he is...Steve has every right to demand that domain immediately. I'm not trying to argue the point with you. And no, DH can't "skirt" the trademark laws. DH is the owner of an adult related business. Steve has every right to that domain.
The easiest and correct thing to do is to hand it over. Which I'm sure DH will do anyway. The point Steve was making was "why" he registered it. And yes, apparently it was to try and make a joke and sooth things over.
Instead it kinda made matters worse.

Robbie 03-20-2008 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13949007)
if he wanted to screw steve he easily could have.

And "no" I don't think he could easily do that. Why would he anyway? And if anyone did, I'm sure Steve would just hand it to his lawyer.

SteveLightspeed 03-20-2008 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 13949041)
gideongallery, I have no idea who you are and I don't want to sound disrespectful to you...but I am aware that it was linked to the definition of dinosaur. That wasn't the point. You made a derogatory remark to Steve about trying to "own" the word lightspeed.
I merely pointed out to you, that if Steve has that trademarked for his sites...then he DOES own it in the world of pornography.
And he is well within his rights to ask another webmaster who makes his living through the world of porn WHY he would register a domain.
Now if DH were the owner of an ice cream company, or a car manufacturer...then Steve probably wouldn't ask that question. But since he is who he is...Steve has every right to demand that domain immediately. I'm not trying to argue the point with you. And no, DH can't "skirt" the trademark laws. DH is the owner of an adult related business. Steve has every right to that domain.
The easiest and correct thing to do is to hand it over. Which I'm sure DH will do anyway. The point Steve was making was "why" he registered it. And yes, apparently it was to try and make a joke and sooth things over.
Instead it kinda made matters worse.


Robbie, thanks for the effort, but you are wasting your time trying to talk to Gideon. he is nothing but a pimple on this industry's ass.

gideongallery 03-20-2008 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 13949041)
gideongallery, I have no idea who you are and I don't want to sound disrespectful to you...but I am aware that it was linked to the definition of dinosaur. That wasn't the point. You made a derogatory remark to Steve about trying to "own" the word lightspeed.
I merely pointed out to you, that if Steve has that trademarked for his sites...then he DOES own it in the world of pornography.
And he is well within his rights to ask another webmaster who makes his living through the world of porn WHY he would register a domain.
Now if DH were the owner of an ice cream company, or a car manufacturer...then Steve probably wouldn't ask that question. But since he is who he is...Steve has every right to demand that domain immediately. I'm not trying to argue the point with you. And no, DH can't "skirt" the trademark laws. DH is the owner of an adult related business. Steve has every right to that domain.
The easiest and correct thing to do is to hand it over. Which I'm sure DH will do anyway. The point Steve was making was "why" he registered it. And yes, apparently it was to try and make a joke and sooth things over.
Instead it kinda made matters worse.

steve has a habit of overstating the value of his trademark and that before you take into account mistakes he has made that have created giant loopholes that would prevent him from ever winning one of his cases.

i called steve on his BS ever time does this.

it amazing that he doesn't just stop over inflating the value of his trademark.

Robbie 03-20-2008 07:07 PM

Huh? It's not the "value" of a trademark. It's the fact that there is a trademark. End of story.

germ 03-20-2008 08:09 PM

wow. just wow.

gideongallery 03-20-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 13949151)
Huh? It's not the "value" of a trademark. It's the fact that there is a trademark. End of story.

look having a trademark that is unenforceable is equal to having no trademark at all.

Give you an example steve hired "Jana Mrazkova" to play "britney lightspeed"

Jana Mrazkova has signed multiple contracts that grant you the right to use her nameand likness including all stage names "past present and future"

all somone who wants to abuse steve's "britney lightspeed" trademark is buy on of these sets.

the fact is most of his "lightspeed" girls are in the exact same boat.

Sosa 03-20-2008 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13949117)
steve has a habit of overstating the value of his trademark and that before you take into account mistakes he has made that have created giant loopholes that would prevent him from ever winning one of his cases.

i called steve on his BS ever time does this.

it amazing that he doesn't just stop over inflating the value of his trademark.

I had no problem transferring a domain with lightspeed in it over to steve. Hell they even left it up after they hosted it, and I still made sales off of it. It's his deal, I don't have a problem with that. He is looking out for his trademark that he has built up in the porn world.

Robbie 03-20-2008 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13949404)
look having a trademark that is unenforceable is equal to having no trademark at all.

Give you an example steve hired "Jana Mrazkova" to play "britney lightspeed"

Jana Mrazkova has signed multiple contracts that grant you the right to use her nameand likness including all stage names "past present and future"

all somone who wants to abuse steve's "britney lightspeed" trademark is buy on of these sets.

the fact is most of his "lightspeed" girls are in the exact same boat.

OK, let me tell you what I know...it doesn't matter WHAT anybody does with a domain that contains a trademarked name. Hell, you can take it and NOT even have it online at all. It doesn't matter one bit. If Steve decides he wants that domain and when he tries to get it discovers that another person has it...then he will get it. I know you want to argue for arguments sake. But I have seen it done time and time again.
It doesn't make one iota of difference what a person puts on a domain that is trademarked. When the rightful owner of that trademark petitions for it...it WILL be taken from the squatter and given to the trademark holder.
Again, I don't know you...as far as I can tell from your profile, you don't own anything. But usually a simple email suffices to get a squatter to voluntarily hand over a domain. But if it comes right down to it...a lawyer writing the internet God's will result in the domain being transferred to the rightful owner.
That is what I'm trying to point out to you. It doesn't really matter what you try to do or how slick you try to be. Once the domain has been given to the trademark owner...well, game over. Hopefully that clears up my point. Everything else is irrelevant. So "no", nobody could "screw" Steve with that domain name. Not for long anyway.

tucker 03-20-2008 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13949404)
look having a trademark that is unenforceable is equal to having no trademark at all.

Give you an example steve hired "Jana Mrazkova" to play "britney lightspeed"

Jana Mrazkova has signed multiple contracts that grant you the right to use her nameand likness including all stage names "past present and future"

all somone who wants to abuse steve's "britney lightspeed" trademark is buy on of these sets.

the fact is most of his "lightspeed" girls are in the exact same boat.

Captain save content; this affects you how? This is your concern because? Last time I checked you weren't an owner of Lightspeed. Free time is a bitch, you might want to try painting, coin collecting, reading?

Just a thought...

gideongallery 03-21-2008 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 13949530)
OK, let me tell you what I know...it doesn't matter WHAT anybody does with a domain that contains a trademarked name. Hell, you can take it and NOT even have it online at all. It doesn't matter one bit. If Steve decides he wants that domain and when he tries to get it discovers that another person has it...then he will get it. I know you want to argue for arguments sake. But I have seen it done time and time again.
It doesn't make one iota of difference what a person puts on a domain that is trademarked. When the rightful owner of that trademark petitions for it...it WILL be taken from the squatter and given to the trademark holder.
Again, I don't know you...as far as I can tell from your profile, you don't own anything. But usually a simple email suffices to get a squatter to voluntarily hand over a domain. But if it comes right down to it...a lawyer writing the internet God's will result in the domain being transferred to the rightful owner.
That is what I'm trying to point out to you. It doesn't really matter what you try to do or how slick you try to be. Once the domain has been given to the trademark owner...well, game over. Hopefully that clears up my point. Everything else is irrelevant. So "no", nobody could "screw" Steve with that domain name. Not for long anyway.

any missed the point
steve licienced his trademark for "britney lightspeed" to every one who buys one of these previous set when he chose to hire a model bound by "name and likeness" contract that extends to his creation of a stage name.


kinzie kenner would have taken kinziekenner.com away from steve and friends

the same "loophole" that allowed steve & friends to hold on to kinziekenner.com for all those years allows anyone who wants to screw steve over to do so as long and as often as they want.

while steve said it was "business" and claimed he had a right to do it the fact is whenever the same legal rights are used against him he reclasifies it as "loophole".

Mike Dutch 03-21-2008 08:57 AM

I read this thread and the other thread.
Just wow.

tucker 03-21-2008 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13950576)
any missed the point
steve licienced his trademark for "britney lightspeed" to every one who buys one of these previous set when he chose to hire a model bound by "name and likeness" contract that extends to his creation of a stage name.


kinzie kenner would have taken kinziekenner.com away from steve and friends

the same "loophole" that allowed steve & friends to hold on to kinziekenner.com for all those years allows anyone who wants to screw steve over to do so as long and as often as they want.

while steve said it was "business" and claimed he had a right to do it the fact is whenever the same legal rights are used against him he reclasifies it as "loophole".


GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT:

I own Kinziekenner.com NOT Steve. There was and is no loophole. She screwed us over. Thank you for reminding me, she has been in breach of her agreement for years and I haven't followed up on it.

gideongallery 04-02-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker (Post 13951320)
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT:

I own Kinziekenner.com NOT Steve. There was and is no loophole. She screwed us over. Thank you for reminding me, she has been in breach of her agreement for years and I haven't followed up on it.

so her stage name, yet you own it, other then her signing a contract with the "name and likeness" clause in it what else give you the right to the name.

I don't consider it a loophole either, those were steve's words. It just so happens that i have a similar right to own raimimiller.com.

the fact that you owned it, doesn't change the fact that steve promised that "the only official site for kinizie kenner would exist on kiniziekenner.com" when he was trying to convince me i should give him the domain for free.

steve has a habit of calling it a "loophole" but the simple fact is, tucker, you were the "and friends" i was talking about.

BradM 04-02-2008 02:34 PM

ah I love mark. this guy is such an arrogant asshole. I can't imagine being such a loose cannon dickhead in my entire life. I guess it takes a "special" kind of person to be such a flaming fuck face.


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