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pocketkangaroo 03-16-2008 07:34 PM

I personally could careless about their preachers. I'd be more concerned with the fact him and all the other candidates believe in fairy tales.

Either way, all that matters is what they'd do for me and the country. Would they make things better or worse? They could worship Satan for all I care as long as they are a good President.

As for the preacher, I can't judge. Blacks were shit on in this country for over 200 years. Are they supposed to be proud of a country that treated them as second class citizens for centuries? Should Jews in Germany be proud of their country?

Honeyslut 03-16-2008 07:35 PM

No Hillary Please !

theking 03-16-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 13928630)
Only one wealthy individual... you are fucking ridiculous.

Bin Laden was...and is...one radical individual...who was wealthy...and may still be...whom is without a country...decided to use his wealth to create an org to carry out attacks against American assets...declared war against America...and members of his org ultimately attacked the CONUS.

theking 03-16-2008 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GITZINGER (Post 13928644)
Jebus, you're a moron, no matter how hard you try to make yourself and everyone around you think you're smart. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Noted...still no response to the question posed...thank you very much.

nico-t 03-16-2008 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13928634)
Well for starters...one could say that someone who says "God damn America" just might be anti America...do you think?

there is no god, retard. It's a fucking fairy tale for fairies like you.
Lets compare it to my country.
When some politician would say 'God bless Holland' i would never vote for the fuck because hes religious, and we all know religious people are the biggest and dirtiest fucking hypocrites ever.
So what the fuck does 'god bless' or 'god damn' really say? NOTHING. It's all bullshit. Look at the fucking facts like the bible thumping politicians do, look at the fucking finances and vote based on that, not the comepletely useless religious fake points they make just to take along the dumb fucking sheep. Religious points are only important to the religious, and NOT ONE politician is religious. They only say they prefer one or another religion to get the religious sheep with them! Open your fucking eyes.

theking 03-16-2008 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 13928690)
there is no god, retard. It's a fucking fairy tale for fairies like you.
Lets compare it to my country.
When some politician would say 'God bless Holland' i would never vote for the fuck because hes religious, and we all know religious people are the biggest and dirtiest fucking hypocrites ever.
So what the fuck does 'god bless' or 'god damn' really say? NOTHING. It's all bullshit. Look at the fucking facts like the bible thumping politicians do, look at the fucking finances and vote based on that, not the comepletely useless religious fake points they make just to take along the dumb fucking sheep. Religious points are only important to the religious, and NOT ONE politician is religious. They only say they prefer one or another religion to get the religious sheep with them! Open your fucking eyes.

You are beginning to bore me...kid...so you are now dismissed.

theking 03-16-2008 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Honeyslut (Post 13928651)
No Hillary Please !

What is up with you these days?

theking 03-16-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Honeyslut (Post 13928651)
No Hillary Please !

And there she goes...another hit and run. Well that is OK babe.

baddog 03-16-2008 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13928528)
could be that OR he needs the voter base of that community and doesn't care what he has to to do to get the votes,

He determined that 20 years ago?

Pleasurepays 03-16-2008 10:02 PM

i think obamas wives views are a great deal more troubling than the fact that he goes to a church ran by a racist, separatist lunatic. but of course, i'm just another "white oppressor" so what do i know?

Snake Doctor 03-16-2008 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 13927098)
He is clearly a racist .. you cant go to church with a radical preacher for 20 years and not agree with the majourity of his views.

Really? So you don't know any catholics on birth control? Or catholics who are pro-choice (John Kerry anyone?)

Most churches in America aren't "megachurches" that revolve around a charismatic pastor....and most church goers aren't people who worship their pastor and believe everything he says.
There are alot of reasons to go to a certain church other than the man preaching from the pulpit. Alot of denominations change pastors every few years yet the make-up of the congregation stays the same....because people are loyal to their faith/denomination/community, not to the preacher.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 13927098)
Obama just says what his publicity team tells him to say

Actually, unlike some other people in this race who try to belittle Obama for his great speeches, he actually writes most of his own speeches. He also wrote his own books (they weren't ghosted)
How about that, a person with ideas who can articulate them eloquently to the American public running for office.
If you want to talk about someone saying what their publicity team tells them to say, and changes what they say based on the latest polling data, you need to look at the other candidate.

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13927106)
Bingo. If he did not agree with his sermons he would be attending church elsewhere. Guaranteed

Not true....see above.
There aren't two people in the world who agree on absolutely everything. If you agreed with 90% of what a guy said but disagreed with 10% of what he said, you would just disown the guy over the 10%?
Obama's been going to church there for 20 years....that's like 800 Sundays. Out of 800 sermons, the media hype is over two or three sermons (that Obama wasn't there for) and yet you're somehow trying to say that it isn't possible for Obama to disagree with the guy on these issues because he remained a member of the church.

Puhlease.

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Originally Posted by farkedup (Post 13928632)
Clinton won't sling this kind of shit at obama... besides we all know they're going to have to share the ticket but this is to decide who gets to lose the presidential election anyway

They won't share the ticket, that's a guarantee.

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13928634)
Well for starters...one could say that someone who says "God damn America" just might be anti America...do you think?

So people who love their country can't call their government out on it's own bullshit?
The only people who love their country are the ones who heap praise upon their government no matter what it does?

That's the sort of bullshit rhetoric that got us into the Iraq war....because the people who tried to call the government out on this bullshit war were called appeasers, we "blamed America first" and we were unpatriotic and didn't "support the troops" because we were against the war.

While I will agree that the tone of the pastor's statements were a little frightening....from a factual point of view he really wasn't off base.
Any intelligence expert will tell you that 9/11 was "blowback" for alot of the shitty things we've done in the middle east and around the world. To act surprised and indignant that we were attacked is ridiculous.

Also, U.S. public policy has at the very least exacerbated the problems of the black underclass in urban areas, and he has a right to say so.

Snake Doctor 03-16-2008 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13927042)
...to a preacher that has been a radical since the '60's...a racist...and anti America...exclude him from being the President?

The truth is this, no it doesn't.

The people who want to make a big thing out of this are people that weren't going to vote for him anyways.
The people who love him don't care about this.

These things have a half-life of about 3 days....seriously. There's 6 weeks until the next primary, and I guarantee you that this will be long forgotten by then....the media will be on to the next thing.

pocketkangaroo 03-16-2008 10:29 PM

The funniest thing about this is that Bush was calling in guys like Falwell, Robertson and other loons for weekly meetings on policy. These are guys who believed New Orleans was hit by a hurricane because it allowed gays to have parades and stuff.

When Obama starts calling on this Wright guy for policy advice, then I'd be worried.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-16-2008 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 13927042)
...to a preacher that has been a radical since the '60's...a racist...and anti America...exclude him from being the President?

I would think so but Americans are stupid.

I was half way feeling for Obama but rather Hillary be pres cuz Obama just does not have any experience in politics. But when I saw and read about the goings on with that minister I was like holy shit, Obama is a mother fucking racist.

Sorry ya do not goto a fucken minister for 20 years, have em get ya married and baptise yer daughter and not agree with the ministers bullshit.

OBAMA is a mother fucking racist.

pocketkangaroo 03-16-2008 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13929092)
I was half way feeling for Obama but rather Hillary be pres cuz Obama just does not have any experience in politics. But when I saw and read about the goings on with that minister I was like holy shit, Obama is a mother fucking racist.

Hillary doesn't really stand a chance anymore. There is really no way she can take the delegate lead with what is remaining. If she were to fuck over voters by getting the superdelegates to vote for her (I still think this is highly unlikely), she'd get crushed in the general election.

Right now it's Obama vs McCain.

Pleasurepays 03-16-2008 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13929066)
The funniest thing about this is that Bush was calling in guys like Falwell, Robertson and other loons for weekly meetings on policy. These are guys who believed New Orleans was hit by a hurricane because it allowed gays to have parades and stuff.

When Obama starts calling on this Wright guy for policy advice, then I'd be worried.

i think that when you put it all in the context of his wife's comments, her thesis at princeton, his buddy the terrorist etc... its all just as disturbing.

more disturbing still is that he seems to be the best choice.

Honeyslut 03-17-2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13928741)
What is up with you these days?

Evil.. Pure evil.

Oh, I have started up some blogs so I have hit the boards again.:winkwink:

What have you been up to ?

theking 03-17-2008 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Honeyslut (Post 13932901)
Evil.. Pure evil.

Oh, I have started up some blogs so I have hit the boards again.:winkwink:

What have you been up to ?

Not a whole lot. If I recall correctly...since you left the board...I bought a boat and had it remodeled into a party boat...but I grew tired of it and sold it fairly recently. I dropped around fifty pounds (not by intent) and have under gone several surgical procedures and seem to be OK now...but I am not putting on weight back on very rapidly. That about sums it up.

How is your health now? Did you get remarried and if so how is it working out for you?

Libertine 03-17-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13929142)
i think that when you put it all in the context of his wife's comments, her thesis at princeton, his buddy the terrorist etc... its all just as disturbing.

more disturbing still is that he seems to be the best choice.

He isn't the best choice. His record is fairly untarnished, but only by virtue of his inexperience and lack of a legislative record. I'd say there's a 10% chance that he'd be the best president ever, a 25% chance that he'd be a huge disappointment, and a 65% chance that he'd be wholly unremarkable. It'd be a huge fucking gamble, with poor chances at best, at a time when the US economy is in a serious crisis.

Obama becoming president would be much like Microsoft appointing the fun new guy from marketing as the new CEO. Sure, it could work - but it probably won't.

Hillary, on the other hand, would most likely make an uninspiring but competent president. She'd have a good chance of cleaning up a decent bit of the current mess, and she'd be likely to have a better chance of stabilizing the economy. She wouldn't be as popular as a JFK or a Reagan, but she'd more than likely do the job, and do it at least fairly well.

McCain is a bit of a problem. He'd improve the image of the US abroad a lot, even if he probably wouldn't be as successful as Obama or Hillary in building new bridges and rebuilding old ones. Economically, he'd probably do quite a bit better than Bush, but since economics has never been his forte, it's doubtful that he'd do as well as Hillary. Still, he's more of a known value than Obama, which at this time is probably rather important.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-17-2008 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13929142)
i think that when you put it all in the context of his wife's comments, her thesis at princeton, his buddy the terrorist etc... its all just as disturbing.

more disturbing still is that he seems to be the best choice.

yeah so lets just get a White hating dumb newbie Nigga in for President.:thumbsup

Dumb fuckers...

Honeyslut 03-17-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13933155)
Not a whole lot. If I recall correctly...since you left the board...I bought a boat and had it remodeled into a party boat...but I grew tired of it and sold it fairly recently. I dropped around fifty pounds (not by intent) and have under gone several surgical procedures and seem to be OK now...but I am not putting on weight back on very rapidly. That about sums it up.

How is your health now? Did you get remarried and if so how is it working out for you?

Remarried. Hell no ! haha MY ex did and I hear from my girls he is miserable. Karm'as a bitch .

I do have a nice boyfriend that I have been dating two years in Sept. He takes me to Laguna Beach all the time and hot jazz clubs in San Fran.

I had been ill since July and all that they have found is I was severely allergic to the allergy medicine Singulair. Been have some stuff with my heart although I am healthy and have a .008 chance of a heart attack. haha

I can kick my daughter's butt when we work out at the gym so I guess I will survive.

Got laid off from my job so I am working on online stuff and my house until I find something else. Should have the house on the market by May.

It's been a long road but I have survived. I still kick myself in the butt for closing down to try to save the marriage.

Party boat eh ? Are you still in Oregon ? Was your surgeries serious ?

Sausage 03-17-2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13929042)
Really? So you don't know any catholics on birth control? Or catholics who are pro-choice (John Kerry anyone?)

Most churches in America aren't "megachurches" that revolve around a charismatic pastor....and most church goers aren't people who worship their pastor and believe everything he says.
There are alot of reasons to go to a certain church other than the man preaching from the pulpit. Alot of denominations change pastors every few years yet the make-up of the congregation stays the same....because people are loyal to their faith/denomination/community, not to the preacher.
.

Its one thing to use birth control, its entirely another to go to a church for 20 years that pushes an anti white american agenda. If Obama was so opposed to it why did he keep going? Its so damned obvious you would have to be a fool to think otherwise.

It almost seems like its ok to be racist if you are a black american, but not ok if you are white. Confusing.

Grapesoda 03-17-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13928983)
He determined that 20 years ago?

I agree with your assessment. a 'preacher' a spiritual guide per say. if he didn't agree with the mesg, he would be gone.

and we don't know how long the guy has intended to be a politician. it's not like it's an overnight decision.

Grapesoda 03-17-2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 13933271)
Its one thing to use birth control, its entirely another to go to a church for 20 years that pushes an anti white american agenda. If Obama was so opposed to it why did he keep going? Its so damned obvious you would have to be a fool to think otherwise.

It almost seems like its ok to be racist if you are a black american, but not ok if you are white. Confusing.

he's gonna be the next pres and here's why. because if he doesn't win the blacks will burn America down because whitey done fucked the count up because obama is black.

TampaToker 03-17-2008 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13929042)
Really? So you don't know any catholics on birth control? Or catholics who are pro-choice (John Kerry anyone?)

Most churches in America aren't "megachurches" that revolve around a charismatic pastor....and most church goers aren't people who worship their pastor and believe everything he says.
There are alot of reasons to go to a certain church other than the man preaching from the pulpit. Alot of denominations change pastors every few years yet the make-up of the congregation stays the same....because people are loyal to their faith/denomination/community, not to the preacher.



Actually, unlike some other people in this race who try to belittle Obama for his great speeches, he actually writes most of his own speeches. He also wrote his own books (they weren't ghosted)
How about that, a person with ideas who can articulate them eloquently to the American public running for office.
If you want to talk about someone saying what their publicity team tells them to say, and changes what they say based on the latest polling data, you need to look at the other candidate.



Not true....see above.
There aren't two people in the world who agree on absolutely everything. If you agreed with 90% of what a guy said but disagreed with 10% of what he said, you would just disown the guy over the 10%?
Obama's been going to church there for 20 years....that's like 800 Sundays. Out of 800 sermons, the media hype is over two or three sermons (that Obama wasn't there for) and yet you're somehow trying to say that it isn't possible for Obama to disagree with the guy on these issues because he remained a member of the church.

Puhlease.



They won't share the ticket, that's a guarantee.



So people who love their country can't call their government out on it's own bullshit?
The only people who love their country are the ones who heap praise upon their government no matter what it does?

That's the sort of bullshit rhetoric that got us into the Iraq war....because the people who tried to call the government out on this bullshit war were called appeasers, we "blamed America first" and we were unpatriotic and didn't "support the troops" because we were against the war.

While I will agree that the tone of the pastor's statements were a little frightening....from a factual point of view he really wasn't off base.
Any intelligence expert will tell you that 9/11 was "blowback" for alot of the shitty things we've done in the middle east and around the world. To act surprised and indignant that we were attacked is ridiculous.

Also, U.S. public policy has at the very least exacerbated the problems of the black underclass in urban areas, and he has a right to say so.

lol i was going come in and post something but you pretty much covered it....

Pleasurepays 03-17-2008 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13933198)
yeah so lets just get a White hating dumb newbie Nigga in for President.:thumbsup

Dumb fuckers...

Listen Lil' Amp, no one in this entire industry thinks you have an IQ above 25... so stop trying to impress people.

as someone once said;

Its better to be silent and thought a fool... than to start typing your usual idiotic things on gfy to confirm it.

theking 03-17-2008 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honeyslut (Post 13933238)
Remarried. Hell no ! haha MY ex did and I hear from my girls he is miserable. Karm'as a bitch .

I do have a nice boyfriend that I have been dating two years in Sept. He takes me to Laguna Beach all the time and hot jazz clubs in San Fran.

I had been ill since July and all that they have found is I was severely allergic to the allergy medicine Singulair. Been have some stuff with my heart although I am healthy and have a .008 chance of a heart attack. haha

I can kick my daughter's butt when we work out at the gym so I guess I will survive.

Got laid off from my job so I am working on online stuff and my house until I find something else. Should have the house on the market by May.

It's been a long road but I have survived. I still kick myself in the butt for closing down to try to save the marriage.

Party boat eh ? Are you still in Oregon ? Was your surgeries serious ?

Good to hear that all is going reasonably well for you. When you speak about house...is it the same house where you had the neighbor from hell? Evil...pure evil...huh? My kind of gal. Have the girls married yet?

Yes a party boat. I thought it might relieve me from boredom and it did for a while...but I did not feel up to taking it out daily and learned that a realible Captain and crew are hard to come by...so I sold it. I invested a ton of money into it and almost recouped when I sold it. Yes I am still in Oregon and I am probably here to stay. No the surgerical procedures were not serious and I may have to have another in a couple of months. My esophagus closed up due to scar tissue and I could not eat any solid food for about a year...thus the loss of weight. I kept thinking it would get better...which caused me to delay seeing a doctor...but it got worse instead of better.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-17-2008 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13933314)
Listen Lil' Amp, no one in this entire industry thinks you have an IQ above 25... so stop trying to impress people.


I am much better than you in that case.
:1orglaugh

spunkmister 03-17-2008 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13933198)
yeah so lets just get a White hating dumb newbie Nigga in for President.:thumbsup

Dumb fuckers...

do they even let the mentally retarded vote?

Pleasurepays 03-17-2008 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13933348)
I am much better than you in that case.
:1orglaugh

never realizing or accepting that everyone thinks you are an idiot doesn't mean you are intelligent.

you are what you have always been... a broke wannabe, with mediocre design skills, unemployable, can't hold a job with delusions of grandeur coupled with self destructive tendencies... bragging about massive real estate and stock portfolios one day and then begging for money and sucking cock to pay the rent the next.

did i miss anything? anything you invented that i forgot?

spunkmister 03-17-2008 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13933371)
never realizing or accepting that everyone thinks you are an idiot doesn't mean you are intelligent.

you are what you have always been... a broke wannabe, with mediocre design skills, unemployable, can't hold a job with delusions of grandeur coupled with self destructive tendencies... bragging about massive real estate and stock portfolios one day and then begging for money and sucking cock to pay the rent the next.

did i miss anything? anything you invented that i forgot?

I think there was a hairy beast in there somewhere

Holly 03-17-2008 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 13933155)
Not a whole lot. If I recall correctly...since you left the board...I bought a boat and had it remodeled into a party boat...but I grew tired of it and sold it fairly recently. I dropped around fifty pounds (not by intent) and have under gone several surgical procedures and seem to be OK now...but I am not putting on weight back on very rapidly. That about sums it up.

How is your health now? Did you get remarried and if so how is it working out for you?

Holy goddamn fuck. I know you're old as fucking Methuselah, but can you not come up with something better than this??? It's like listening to my grandfather. If you want to hit on a chick, don't ask her HOW HER HEALTH IS. Are you retarded?

And no one wants to hear about your old ass, geriatric surgeries. Especially a girl. I realize she's not going to fuck you anyway, but at least act like you remember what it was like to have a dick and a pair of balls. What could be more pathetic than reading some old fucker trying to troll pussy on the internet by talking about his scar tissue and unhealthy weight loss.

Holly 03-17-2008 09:45 PM

And even reading the words "party boat" from you, makes me want to vomit. It's like hearing my grandmother say "werd".

theking 03-17-2008 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly (Post 13933375)
Holy goddamn fuck. I know you're old as fucking Methuselah, but can you not come up with something better than this??? It's like listening to my grandfather. If you want to hit on a chick, don't ask her HOW HER HEALTH IS. Are you retarded?

And no one wants to hear about your old ass, geriatric surgeries. Especially a girl. I realize she's not going to fuck you anyway, but at least act like you remember what it was like to have a dick and a pair of balls. What could be more pathetic than reading some old fucker trying to troll pussy on the internet by talking about his scar tissue and unhealthy weight loss.

You stupid fuck...I am not hitting on her and she knows that. I gave up sexual activities several years ago and she also knows that. Pay attention to something you may know about...and in the meantime feel free to :321GFY...thank you very much. BTW...early fifties is not old...to anyone other than a punk kid.

theking 03-17-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly (Post 13933377)
And even reading the words "party boat" from you, makes me want to vomit. It's like hearing my grandmother say "werd".

Once again you display your fucking stupidity...as you apparently do not have any idea what a party boat is...now do you?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-17-2008 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13933371)
never realizing or accepting that everyone thinks you are an idiot doesn't mean you are intelligent.

you are what you have always been... a broke wannabe, with mediocre design skills, unemployable, can't hold a job with delusions of grandeur coupled with self destructive tendencies... bragging about massive real estate and stock portfolios one day and then begging for money and sucking cock to pay the rent the next.

did i miss anything? anything you invented that i forgot?

You seem to have missed everything and lacking on the concept of what is real and not real. Shame you go by what is read on GFY, I remain employed and paid very well and have always had the option to work or not work.

I work long term and short term, I consult, I design, I program and got a great living to boot. I know it must tear you up inside but I got skill's not many have.

If you thought i was worth anything you would be down on yer knee's ready for me to shoot a load all over yer face. I like to keep ya wondering though about everything.

Holly 03-17-2008 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 13933399)
You stupid fuck...I am not hitting on her and she knows that. I gave up sexual activities several years ago and she also knows that. Pay attention to something you may know about...and in the meantime feel free to :321GFY...thank you very much. BTW...early fifties is not old...to anyone other than a punk kid.

Right, gramps.

I do believe the part about you not being able to get it up, though. Which probably explains why you try to score virtual snatch with your pathetic, old man pick up lines.

Holly 03-17-2008 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13933404)
Once again you display your fucking stupidity...as you apparently do not have any idea what a party boat is...now do you?

If this is the part where you're going to try to explain in old fuck terms what a party boat is... please, please don't.

Porn Farmer 03-17-2008 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13933413)
I know it must tear you up inside but I got skill's not many have.

Not spelling or grammar skill's [sic] obviously. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

theking 03-17-2008 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly (Post 13933428)
Right, gramps.

I do believe the part about you not being able to get it up, though. Which probably explains why you try to score virtual snatch with your pathetic, old man pick up lines.

You dim witted mother fucker...I get it up just fine. I suffer with mind numbing pain 24/7...due to injuries I received during the '91 Gulf War...and I gave up sexual activity when it began to exacerbate the pain to the point that it over rode any joy involved. You are now permanently dismissed...as I refuse to have intercourse with someone like yourself...thankyou very much.


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