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Old 02-28-2008, 11:48 PM   #1
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:stoned Barack Hussein Obama!

Why is it NOT OK for a newspaper to use his true, full, legal name?

Hey, if having HUSSEIN in his name is a bad thing, then so be it. It's the truth. It isn't a lie. It isn't even bending the truth!

Dude has a MUSLIM name... let the world hear it.. afterall, it IS the truth.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:54 PM   #2
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I agree, however, when a person is a minority, the rules change.
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"The Obama campaign told CTV late Thursday night that no message was passed to the Canadian government that suggests that Obama does not mean what he says about opting out of NAFTA if it is not renegotiated.

However, the Obama camp did not respond to repeated questions from CTV on reports that a conversation on this matter was held between Obama's senior economic adviser -- Austan Goolsbee -- and the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago.

Earlier Thursday, the Obama campaign insisted that no conversations have taken place with any of its senior ranks and representatives of the Canadian government on the NAFTA issue. On Thursday night, CTV spoke with Goolsbee, but he refused to say whether he had such a conversation with the Canadian government office in Chicago. He also said he has been told to direct any question to the campaign headquarters."

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories

If the media does its job on this story now that names have been released its big trouble for Obama. The name given was not just a low level adviser to Obama, but his senior economic adviser who placed the call to reassure the Canadian government that they had nothing to worry about.....

There is a lot to be dug into here, should be interesting to see what the final outcome is.
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I don't understand.

Who said it wasn't ok?
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I don't understand.

Who said it wasn't ok?
http://us.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/2...gop/index.html

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan formally denounced on Thursday the Tennessee Republican Party's use of Barack Obama's full name in a recent news release questioning the Illinois senator's commitment to Israel.
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Some in the GOP say the use of Sen. Barack Obama's middle name in a release is a distraction.

"The RNC rejects these kinds of campaign tactics," Duncan said in a statement. "We believe this election needs to be about the critical issues confronting our nation."

The statement in question, which was released Monday, said the state party is joining a "growing chorus of Americans concerned about the future of the nation of Israel ... if Sen. Barack Hussein Obama is elected president of the United States."

It also included a photograph of Obama from a 2006 trip to Kenya, in which he is dressed in traditional attire.

The news release was sparked by recent praise for the senator from Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan, who has made derogatory remarks about Judaism and has indicated his support for Obama.

At Tuesday night's MSNBC debate, Obama said he denounced those comments and did not seek Farrakhan's support.

On Wednesday night, the party removed both the photo and the reference of "Hussein" from the statement after Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander called to express his belief that using them had become a distraction, Tennessee GOP Communications Director Bill Hobbs said.
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The news release now includes a clarification that reads, "This release originally referenced a photo of Sen. Obama and incorrectly termed it to be 'Muslim' garb. It is, in fact, Somali tribal garb, hence, we have deleted the photo. Also, in order to diffuse attempts by Democrats and the Left to divert attention from the main point of this release -- that Sen. Obama has surrounded himself with advisers and received endorsements from people who are anti-Semitic and anti-Israel -- we have deleted the use of Barack Obama's middle name."

Hobbs said Thursday that the party will no longer use Obama's middle name in news releases.

"We're not going to be using the middle name now, because apparently, it's become a distraction," he said. "But I would note, not too long ago, I saw a wire story out of the Middle East that talked about how a lot of people there are hungry for Obama to win and, in part, because his middle name gives him a connection, and that story used his middle name, so we're not the first people to notice and use his middle name."

Hobbs denied that the use of Obama's full name carried any racial overtones but said he wasn't surprised the statement has caused such an uproar.

"The left always finds something to pick at other than to describe the issues; we're not surprised at all."

The news release, however, drew a sharp rebuke Wednesday from Tennessee Democratic Party Chairman Gray Sasser, who said it "amplifies misinformation, discredited tall tales and Internet innuendo to appeal to the worst in people."

Though it was issued Monday, the release came under fresh scrutiny Wednesday after conservative talk radio host Bill Cunningham repeatedly used Obama's full name at a John McCain campaign event in Cincinnati, Ohio, while describing Obama as a "hack Chicago-style Daley politician" who had yet to be challenged by the media.

And McCain, who on Tuesday denounced Cunningham's remarks, also indicated Wednesday evening that he disapproved of the news release. Video Watch McCain apologize for the remarks »

"This will be a respectful debate," the Arizona senator said in San Antonio. "I have pledged if I am able to secure the nomination of my party, it will be a respectful debate; I will continue to treat Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama with respect, just as I have treated my primary opponents with great respect."
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I think they are pissed because they are using it to imply he is Muslim and he is not.
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I think they are pissed because they are using it to imply he is Muslim and he is not.
Yeah... I can understand that.

Does anyone even know McCain or Hill-Dog's middle name?

I don't.
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Thanks for the link, btw...

But, yeah... if the RNC is coming down on them for the use of it in a bad way, then ya'd have to think they're not using it respectfully.

I mean, it's not like any other candidate's middle name is being used at all, eh?
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I think they are pissed because they are using it to imply he is Muslim and he is not.
if the shoe fits.......


he says he isnt muslim, that's nice...

on a DIFFERENT NOTE...

it's his middle name... so why can't they post it?

if i was running for president and my name was ROGER KUKLUXKLAN STEVENS

you bet your ass it would be all over the papers.. food for thought
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if the shoe fits.......


he says he isnt muslim, that's nice...

on a DIFFERENT NOTE...

it's his middle name... so why can't they post it?

if i was running for president and my name was ROGER KUKLUXKLAN STEVENS

you bet your ass it would be all over the papers.. food for thought

Using his name in an effort to get people to sway their consideration away from him seems just about as profoundly ignorant as using the color of his skin to sway consideration away from him.

If he said he's not Muslim, and he is - discuss that issue. His legal name doesn't have much to do with anything, imho.
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i'm surprised you haven't been labeled a racist yet ... you shouldn't say anything bad about a black person here
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It will be used a lot in primaries if he wins nomination. Husain will be in font 18 letters...
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Why is it NOT OK for a newspaper to use his true, full, legal name?

Hey, if having HUSSEIN in his name is a bad thing, then so be it. It's the truth. It isn't a lie. It isn't even bending the truth!

Dude has a MUSLIM name... let the world hear it.. afterall, it IS the truth.
Because Hussein is like Saddam and Obama is like Osama. So I propose we just use the "B" from his first name and combine it with the "Ob" in his last name. Now his name is "Bob." That's a safer name.
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Clinton put the Hussein name and the picture with the head rag two weeks ago
and didn't catch shit from the press but a Republican puts it out they get in a tizzy !
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Clinton put the Hussein name and the picture with the head rag two weeks ago
and didn't catch shit from the press but a Republican puts it out they get in a tizzy !
The National Enquirer had the picture and story in their rag at the beginning of Feb.
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if Obama doesn't become president I'm sure it'll be for a reason other than his middle name, maybe because he's such a pussy cunt.

Imagine Putin giving Obama the staredown, Obama would cry.
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Clinton put the Hussein name and the picture with the head rag two weeks ago
and didn't catch shit from the press but a Republican puts it out they get in a tizzy !

You fucking idiot. That’s not a rag, it’s traditional Javanese outfit. I spent 4 years in Indonesia… One thing is that it has nothing to do muslim culture. Most of Indonesian art/sculpture and culture in general derives from Hindu.. that’s what it was before Muslims came and converted them.
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if Obama doesn't become president I'm sure it'll be for a reason other than his middle name, maybe because he's such a pussy cunt.

Imagine Putin giving Obama the staredown, Obama would cry.
No, he’ll just talk him to death flexing every agenda that was put in front of him. That’s one thing about Obama, he can be at KKK convention and still make it positive. He’s a inspirational speaker for fat/ugly/you name what, not a leader.
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if Obama doesn't become president I'm sure it'll be for a reason other than his middle name, maybe because he's such a pussy cunt.

Imagine Putin giving Obama the staredown, Obama would cry.
Putin will be gone before we get our next president.
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i worry for our country if we have a spazoid like clinton in the whitehouse, and someone with the name o(s)ama hussein as our president...
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I think they are pissed because they are using it to imply he is Muslim and he is not.
You shitting me? He IS a muslim. It's on wikipedia for christs sake..

Buy his fucking book.. he even says so in his own book that he was brought up muslim
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You shitting me? He IS a muslim. It's on wikipedia for christs sake..

Buy his fucking book.. he even says so in his own book that he was brought up muslim
I've read his book. He never says he was a Muslim. Stop believing every chain e-mail you get.
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You shitting me? He IS a muslim. It's on wikipedia for christs sake..
Oh, well that settles it then.
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No Muslim in the white house at this time.....thanks for asking but.............NO FUCKING WAY! I?m a Democrat and unless they bring in a ringer like Al Gore, my vote is going for decorated American hero, John McCain.
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No Muslim in the white house at this time.....thanks for asking but.............NO FUCKING WAY! I?m a Democrat and unless they bring in a ringer like Al Gore, my vote is going for decorated American hero, John McCain.
I'm not voting for him but this Muslim thing is just ridiculous. The guy isn't a Muslim. The stupidity of our voting public never ceases to amaze me.
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He may not be a muslim but then his picture was released showing him wearing a muslim turbin. I guess he is a cameleon...

He is black, he is white, he is christian, he is muslim.... whatever, real american MEN will not vote for this flake.
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He may not be a muslim but then his picture was released showing him wearing a muslim turbin. I guess he is a cameleon...

He is black, he is white, he is christian, he is muslim.... whatever, real american MEN will not vote for this flake.
idiot... run search on google for javanese headgear...
http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Its traditional thing they wear in Java.. Has nothing to do with religion.
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He may not be a muslim but then his picture was released showing him wearing a muslim turbin. I guess he is a cameleon...

He is black, he is white, he is christian, he is muslim.... whatever, real american MEN will not vote for this flake.
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He may not be a muslim but then his picture was released showing him wearing a muslim turbin. I guess he is a cameleon...

He is black, he is white, he is christian, he is muslim.... whatever, real american MEN will not vote for this flake.
Some redneck killed Indian Sinkh guy because he "thought he was muslim"... Edukate yor self.. dont be like pussyserved niqga
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Well, that is the rumor.
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You fucking idiot. That?s not a rag, it?s traditional Javanese outfit. I spent 4 years in Indonesia? One thing is that it has nothing to do muslim culture. Most of Indonesian art/sculpture and culture in general derives from Hindu.. that?s what it was before Muslims came and converted them.

"I spent 4 years in Indonesia"

Who fucking cares. Does it make you an expert on rags ?

It's a fucking rag and I'd wash my car with it you dip shit !

I didn't say it was muslim and I don't care where it was. It looks like a rag
on his head !
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Was he born into Muslim? Presumably he likely was...

And if so, did he ever actively practice that religion?...

If so, that could be a problem, because from my understanding, once one is a practicing Muslim, they are always a Muslim; denouncing the faith is punishable by death!

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Was he born into Muslim? Presumably he likely was...

And if so, did he ever actively practice that religion?...

If so, that could be a problem, because from my understanding, once one is a practicing Muslim, they are always a Muslim; denouncing the faith is punishable by death!

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Who gives a fuck what some ancient religion says? If the guy isn't a practicing Muslim, he's not a fucking Muslim. I don't get why society has to determine everyone's religion based on their parents. I've come across two people in the last month who have said they were "half Christian - half Jewish". How the fuck is that possible?

The guy was raised a Christian. He is active in his church. None of this should matter either. Vote for the guy who will do the best for you and the country.

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From all indications he's NOT a practicing Muslim now ... but the question many are asking is, was Obama ever a practicing Muslim?

-and if so, when did he denounce that religion?

This matters because if he was a practincing Muslim, that raises a lot of questions, such as:

- How will Muslims, especially extremists, feel about him being President?

- Will Obama truly be loyal to the interests of the United States?

To be clear, if Obama was never a practicing Muslim, then all of the above is a mute issue - again, the question is was he ever a practicing Muslim? That still seems to be an open question - perhaps some folks can chime in with sources that go into detail regarding his religious background.

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"mute issue"

you need to get you some education.

dumb people are funny.
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Well if he was never a practicing Muslim, then much of the issue goes away.

However, if he was a practicing Muslim (did not denounce it) well into adulthood, then that matters!

Much of the news media is glossing over the Obama Muslim issue now, but come nomination time, or probably much sooner being that pressure is on McCain (who without some "extra" help has little chance of winning over Obama) Obama's background will be more closely scrutinized by the news media much like McCain's has been this past week.

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I don't.
Hillary's is 'Rodham' if I'm not mistaken.

Definitely the middle name of an extremist_something... of what I'm not sure. :D
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The stupidity on the board ceases to amaze me... I'm embarrased to have some of you dip shits in the industry
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Old 02-29-2008, 05:52 AM   #41
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The stupidity on the board ceases to amaze me... I'm embarrased to have some of you dip shits in the industry
well said
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Old 02-29-2008, 06:30 AM   #42
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Old 02-29-2008, 06:46 AM   #43
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None of this should matter either. Vote for the guy who will do the best for you and the country.
i think this is what all of the people need to know...

whatever things other say just don't believe it ahead...think of what and who is the best for your country...
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:22 AM   #44
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From all indications he's NOT a practicing Muslim now ... but the question many are asking is, was Obama ever a practicing Muslim?

- Will Obama truly be loyal to the interests of the United States?
Why would once being a muslim affect his loyalty to the country?
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:23 AM   #45
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No Muslim in the white house at this time.....thanks for asking but.............NO FUCKING WAY! I?m a Democrat and unless they bring in a ringer like Al Gore, my vote is going for decorated American hero, John McCain.
Good for you, hopefully you have another job when you do, cuz "adult webmaster" WON'T be a good paying gig after you vote him in, troll
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:24 AM   #46
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:24 AM   #47
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And what is the problem of him having Hussein in the name....

As said the problem is trying to cover it up...
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:37 AM   #48
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No Muslim in the white house at this time.....thanks for asking but.............NO FUCKING WAY! I?m a Democrat and unless they bring in a ringer like Al Gore, my vote is going for decorated American hero, John McCain.

ringer like al gore??? that fucking retard talks about carbon taxing as he flies around in his personal jet.. he can fucking die
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:45 AM   #49
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He is an agent of Osama bin Laden ..
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I'm just afraid that some wacko is going to go "Kennedy" on Obama.
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