(VIDEO) Are ethics important in adult? Who would you choose to be for a day? - GoFuckYourself.com

Doug of Montreal · 02-28-2008, 08:37 AM

Adult Insights Ep 12 Video

Are ethics important in adult? Or does working in an industry that isn't publicly embraced by society give you carte blanche for how you create your business?

Today's answers are provided by Jim from Almighty Content, Kenny B from IA Cash, Elli from Streamray/Cams.com, Vic from Kick Ass Pictures, Sagi from Adult Friend Finder, Dwreck from Webcam Cash and Scott from Traffic Dude.

And special thanks to Yappo Dollars for their support.

"Are ethics important?"
Jim: "I think there's a major misconception (that the adult industry) is the underbelly of the business world."
Kenny: "It's important to treat everybody with respect if you'd like that respect."
Elli: "You need to be able to sleep with yourself at night."
Vic: "I wouldn't moralize and say everyone needs to where a white hat."
Sagi: "There are a lot of things you can get away with... ethics are very important."
Dwreck: "There's more ethics in adult than some of my friends in the mainstream business world."
Scott: "Ethics always mattered but they matter more now than they ever did."

Following that we ask some people who they'd choose to be for a day industry and Vegas Ken gives one of the best, if not most conflicted, answers ever. We also chat with She Devil from Think Pink Online, Rob from Live Bucks, Benoit from Express Pro, Michael (formerly) from Verotel, Dirty D from How I Got Rich, HoneLynn from High Def Riches/Sunny Dollars and Mario from Loaded Cash.

Are ethics really important in adult? Are issues like SEO spam or shaving sales really a big deal if nobody knows they're being hurt? Who would you choose to be for ONE day?

nico-t · 02-28-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug of Montreal

Sagi: "There are a lot of things you can get away with... ethics are very important."

i just quoted this randomly without any reason

StarkReality · 02-28-2008, 09:06 AM

Somehow this came into my mind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

Doug of Montreal · 02-28-2008, 10:10 AM

Go easy... I'm pretty sure sure he just works for them. ;) hehe

MediaGuy · 02-28-2008, 12:23 PM

Ethics are especially important in adult (and more prevalent than in mainstream; I agree with Dwreck on that one) because we're already the black-hat evil of online business in the eyes of the outside world...

Whenever I first get people from out there into the business, or meet newbies who may be experienced outside the industry, invariably they come back to me with a great impression and a completely wide-eyed astonishment at how cool the people they've met are, how straight-forward the business is, and how relatively bullshit free and ethical are its practices...

Just because we're vilified doesn't mean we're free to be assholes; actually the industry survive because of ethical practices, and couldn't have thrived otherwise.

We'd be board-lurking image-sharer geeks still, and there's no way Visa and MC would process our stuff if we didn't have ethics, or if we were as bad as people think we are...

Kenny B! · 02-28-2008, 12:42 PM

I loved that question, thanks for including me Doug!

Trixxxia · 02-28-2008, 01:41 PM

Loved Ken from TheBestPorn.com 's response and then saying "WTF that's lame"

mikesouth · 02-28-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug of Montreal

Go easy... I'm pretty sure sure he just works for them. ;) hehe

when you lay down with dogs dont be surprised to find out you have fleas.

Fuck AFF

Doug of Montreal · 02-28-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

when you lay down with dogs dont be surprised to find out you have fleas.

I will only say this... fleas can be cute--at a distance

MrBro · 02-28-2008, 04:48 PM

why do you guys ask the same people questions? i personally would like to see some more controversial people. ones that don't care what people think and wouldn't hold back on the answers. PC answers turn me off from webmaster marketing and since thats what it appears you are targeting, i would like to see some people not hold back on the issues, and can the politically correct answers and carefully worded responses.

for 2cents purposes only. i wouldn't want anyone to be anyone but themselves, but seeing people get in avn and xbiz and places that are viewed by the community always has everyone worrying about "what will people think?"

fuck it. speak your mind, who cares what they think. we know why this question is asked. just put it out there.

Pleasurepays · 02-28-2008, 06:18 PM

FACT... those with the least amount of "ethics" make exponentially more money in porn. its as true today as it was in 1997... and those who are usually defended as being "honest" "stand up".. "top notch" guys who are successful, are most often just assholes that have yet to be outed for their crap.

this business primarily attracts naricissistic, authority hating, individualistic, anti-social assholes - trying to dress it up as something different is silly.

pretty redundant to ask a question about "ethics" to people who can't give an honest answer because they are trying to promote a business.

Doug of Montreal · 02-28-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBro

why do you guys ask the same people questions?

And a good question at that! I can't speak for the rest of the hacks that populate the pages of adult-land, but what shortcomings come from these pieces in the area of lack of diversity are due to a tight filming schedule (all interviews shot at two conferences) and limited to only those in attendance. That's the damn thing about video--one must be where the lens is to get caught. ;)

However, if we are ever in the same place at the same time, consider this your invitation!

datatank · 02-28-2008, 06:25 PM

So the Mario guy wants to be a female pornstar ?
Maybe take a facial or 14?

Doug of Montreal · 02-29-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank

So the Mario guy wants to be a female pornstar ?
Maybe take a facial or 14?

If I could be one person, I'd want to be Mario on the day he's being Jenna. How's that for messed up

02-28-2008, 08:37 AM	#1
Doug of Montreal Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,877	(VIDEO) Are ethics important in adult? Who would you choose to be for a day? Adult Insights Ep 12 Video Are ethics important in adult? Or does working in an industry that isn't publicly embraced by society give you carte blanche for how you create your business? Today's answers are provided by Jim from Almighty Content, Kenny B from IA Cash, Elli from Streamray/Cams.com, Vic from Kick Ass Pictures, Sagi from Adult Friend Finder, Dwreck from Webcam Cash and Scott from Traffic Dude. And special thanks to Yappo Dollars for their support. "Are ethics important?" Jim: "I think there's a major misconception (that the adult industry) is the underbelly of the business world." Kenny: "It's important to treat everybody with respect if you'd like that respect." Elli: "You need to be able to sleep with yourself at night." Vic: "I wouldn't moralize and say everyone needs to where a white hat." Sagi: "There are a lot of things you can get away with... ethics are very important." Dwreck: "There's more ethics in adult than some of my friends in the mainstream business world." Scott: "Ethics always mattered but they matter more now than they ever did." Following that we ask some people who they'd choose to be for a day industry and Vegas Ken gives one of the best, if not most conflicted, answers ever. We also chat with She Devil from Think Pink Online, Rob from Live Bucks, Benoit from Express Pro, Michael (formerly) from Verotel, Dirty D from How I Got Rich, HoneLynn from High Def Riches/Sunny Dollars and Mario from Loaded Cash. Are ethics really important in adult? Are issues like SEO spam or shaving sales really a big deal if nobody knows they're being hurt? Who would you choose to be for ONE day? __________________ WANT TRAFFIC? Get reviewed! SKYPE: dougrabbit ICQ (only if you don't have SKYPE!): 267359201 Twitter: @DougOfRabbits

02-28-2008, 10:10 AM	#4
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02-28-2008, 12:23 PM	#5
MediaGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Montrealquebecanada Posts: 5,500	Ethics are especially important in adult (and more prevalent than in mainstream; I agree with Dwreck on that one) because we're already the black-hat evil of online business in the eyes of the outside world... Whenever I first get people from out there into the business, or meet newbies who may be experienced outside the industry, invariably they come back to me with a great impression and a completely wide-eyed astonishment at how cool the people they've met are, how straight-forward the business is, and how relatively bullshit free and ethical are its practices... Just because we're vilified doesn't mean we're free to be assholes; actually the industry survive because of ethical practices, and couldn't have thrived otherwise. We'd be board-lurking image-sharer geeks still, and there's no way Visa and MC would process our stuff if we didn't have ethics, or if we were as bad as people think we are... __________________ YOU Are Industry News! Press Releases: pr[at]payoutmag.com Facebook: Payout Magazine! Facebook: MIKEB! ICQ: 248843947 Skype: Mediaguy1

02-28-2008, 12:42 PM	#6
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02-28-2008, 06:18 PM	#11
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	FACT... those with the least amount of "ethics" make exponentially more money in porn. its as true today as it was in 1997... and those who are usually defended as being "honest" "stand up".. "top notch" guys who are successful, are most often just assholes that have yet to be outed for their crap. this business primarily attracts naricissistic, authority hating, individualistic, anti-social assholes - trying to dress it up as something different is silly. pretty redundant to ask a question about "ethics" to people who can't give an honest answer because they are trying to promote a business. Last edited by Pleasurepays; 02-28-2008 at 06:20 PM..

02-28-2008, 09:06 AM	#3
StarkReality Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 4 8 15 16 23 42 Posts: 4,444	Somehow this came into my mind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

02-28-2008, 01:41 PM	#7
Trixxxia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 5,600	Loved Ken from TheBestPorn.com 's response and then saying "WTF that's lame"

02-28-2008, 04:48 PM	#10
MrBro So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 323	why do you guys ask the same people questions? i personally would like to see some more controversial people. ones that don't care what people think and wouldn't hold back on the answers. PC answers turn me off from webmaster marketing and since thats what it appears you are targeting, i would like to see some people not hold back on the issues, and can the politically correct answers and carefully worded responses. for 2cents purposes only. i wouldn't want anyone to be anyone but themselves, but seeing people get in avn and xbiz and places that are viewed by the community always has everyone worrying about "what will people think?" fuck it. speak your mind, who cares what they think. we know why this question is asked. just put it out there.

02-28-2008, 06:25 PM	#13
datatank Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: My dog is blacker than Tupac Posts: 5,471	So the Mario guy wants to be a female pornstar ? Maybe take a facial or 14?