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brandonstills · 02-26-2008, 06:54 PM

I've been thinking about using a custom javascript framework more heavily to dynamically generate pages but won't that fuck up search engines since they won't be able to parse the pages? Flash has the same issue, how do people get around this issue? Do you simply do 2 different versions, gracefully degrade the site? How smart are the major search engines when it comes to javascript?

Fat Panda · 02-26-2008, 07:29 PM

se can only read html

hungry hungry hippy · 02-26-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SAC

se can only read html

wrong, at least for google. they've been reading and interpreting js for a while.

GrouchyAdmin · 02-26-2008, 08:24 PM

If you want dynamic, fine, but why are you limiting your scope to JavaScript?

SmokeyTheBear · 02-26-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SAC

se can only read html

wtf ?

google can read javascript just fine, i suggest doing some testing first with various methods , but they certainly DO read javascript

SmokeyTheBear · 02-26-2008, 09:33 PM

if you wanna test various methods , heres one way

make a blogger blog with an offsite js call and put
document.write("wordnotfoundingoogle");

that word will soon show up in google

Diligent · 02-26-2008, 09:40 PM

JS doesn't screw with Your overall SEO... what You've probably heard is; to not put "SE-critical" stuff inside Javascripts, which is a good guideline...

One reason is that at least one SE (G) doesn't pass through linkjuice to stuff linked to inside a JS. I happen to have that rumor confirmed myself.
They handle that the same way they handle rel="nofollow" in links.

SmokeyTheBear · 02-26-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Diligent

JS doesn't screw with Your overall SEO... what You've probably heard is; to not put "SE-critical" stuff inside Javascripts, which is a good guideline...

One reason is that at least one SE (G) doesn't pass through linkjuice to stuff linked to inside a JS. I happen to have that rumor confirmed myself.
They handle that the same way they handle rel="nofollow" in links.

i wouldnt be so sure about that.. i have tested this very subject myself and found the opposite.

i will try and put an example up soon

brandonstills · 02-26-2008, 09:47 PM

I'm referring to complete DOM manipulation, not just document.write.

Diligent · 02-26-2008, 09:49 PM

Smokey..: Hmm.. interesting..

I'll check back here later for that, thanks for sharing

Naptime about now though.

syntacks · 02-26-2008, 10:21 PM

in terms of linking, it's true, using JS for links, just like flash, will act like a nofollow for GG.

brandonstills · 02-26-2008, 11:17 PM

What about the text on the page though, will it pick it up? And how complex of Javascript can it parse? Does it actually execute the javascript, or does it merely scan it.

brandonstills · 02-26-2008, 11:18 PM

Why does the porn.com avatar keep showing up as my avatar?

brandonstills · 02-26-2008, 11:19 PM

Is it every other time I post?

rowan · 02-26-2008, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonstills

Is it every other time I post?

It's displayed for every third post in a thread. It's not attached to any particular post or user, it will disappear once the branding does.

02-26-2008, 06:54 PM	#1
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brandonstills Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 1,964	What about the text on the page though, will it pick it up? And how complex of Javascript can it parse? Does it actually execute the javascript, or does it merely scan it. __________________ Brandon Stills Industry and programming veteran [email protected] \| skype: brandonstills \| ICQ #495-171-318

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