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pornguy292 02-26-2008 02:52 PM
tube sites have good porn though

ucv.karl 02-26-2008 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13835587)
Why should a member own that content forever? If I goto a video rental place I get charged for every day I have it past the return date. Yes we do the same thing currently on our sites, but I think the whole model is flawed. It only ended up that way because we didnt have the technology when paysites started to limit the members usage. Who wants to give away their whole members area for 27.95 or for a 4.00 trial?
Exactly. The current model is similar to having a one month subscription to BlockBuster and being able to own ever movie that you can download in that month. In the past streaming wasn't an option so downloading was the only option. Things have changed and the business model needs to change.

What is the incentive to rebill? I downloaded X amount of your content for $24.99 for the first month. This month you updated 0.04 X amount of content (the actual percent isn't important, its the fact that the update every month is substantially smaller than the total content). Is that worth the rebill? Fuck no.

Robbie 02-26-2008 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ucv.karl (Post 13837358)
What is the incentive to rebill? I downloaded X amount of your content for $24.99 for the first month. This month you updated 0.04 X amount of content (the actual percent isn't important, its the fact that the update every month is substantially smaller than the total content). Is that worth the rebill? Fuck no.
That doesn't really apply to sites like mine. It's a solo girl site with plenty of interaction on the inside. The guys that join her site are freakin' in love with her. They stay forever. And they look forward to each new update and make suggestions for it in the members forum. Plus as members they have the opportunity to actually do a shoot with her.
Now if I were running a site full of bought content or one of the big DVD rip sites....I would be damn worried about that.

ultimatebbwdotcom 02-26-2008 06:50 PM
The surfer has been taught (and is now used to) content from a membership site ending up on their hard drive for use beyond the membership period. Its time to teach the old dog new tricks - and to be honest I'm not overly concerned if a percentage are adverse to not being able to download or at least making it very difficult to do so, until a "solve all" solution presents itself at a good price.

Its my job to make sure the content is "can't miss" so they stay (and rebills are good when they can't keep it) I have less to police and for every email I get wanting to "how come I cant download the vids" I get way more from people enjoying themselves regardless.

I'm not using full drm right now but what I do makes it a real pain in the butt to keep the movies. Most members wouldnt know how to get around it and many don't have the time - way less content leakage to police too.

MaDalton 02-26-2008 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ultimatebbwdotcom (Post 13837604)
The surfer has been taught (and is now used to) content from a membership site ending up on their hard drive for use beyond the membership period. Its time to teach the old dog new tricks - and to be honest I'm not overly concerned if a percentage are adverse to not being able to download or at least making it very difficult to do so, until a "solve all" solution presents itself at a good price.

Its my job to make sure the content is "can't miss" so they stay (and rebills are good when they can't keep it) I have less to police and for every email I get wanting to "how come I cant download the vids" I get way more from people enjoying themselves regardless.

I'm not using full drm right now but what I do makes it a real pain in the butt to keep the movies. Most members wouldnt know how to get around it and many don't have the time - way less content leakage to police too.
excellent post :thumbsup

Robbie 02-26-2008 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ultimatebbwdotcom (Post 13837604)
The surfer has been taught (and is now used to) content from a membership site ending up on their hard drive for use beyond the membership period. Its time to teach the old dog new tricks - and to be honest I'm not overly concerned if a percentage are adverse to not being able to download or at least making it very difficult to do so, until a "solve all" solution presents itself at a good price.

Its my job to make sure the content is "can't miss" so they stay (and rebills are good when they can't keep it) I have less to police and for every email I get wanting to "how come I cant download the vids" I get way more from people enjoying themselves regardless.

I'm not using full drm right now but what I do makes it a real pain in the butt to keep the movies. Most members wouldnt know how to get around it and many don't have the time - way less content leakage to police too.
What exactly are you doing? And how many members do you have? I'd love to hear something that would help. :)

ultimatebbwdotcom 02-26-2008 07:21 PM
Not that keen on going into it here lol - too many non industry. I'm not even saying its foolproof, just difficult and a bigger step in the right direction.

You can get me on ICQ though: 474701548 and ill be more than happy to see if any of it helps you.


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