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Old 10-07-2002, 11:26 AM   #101
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I can tell you of my experiences to. When I attended university all of my fellow white buddies and I had computers, laptops, stereos, nice clothes, cars. Our black roommate had a square 'ghetto blaster' with a tapedeck, not even cd, no computer - he had to write his essays in the computer lab across campus. He stayed in while we partied cause he wanted to save his money instead of spending it on alchohol. He was a model student, focussed and he excelled academically. Maybe he forgot to apply for all the grants you're talking about or maybe he was attending the wrong school.
I fucking wrote all my papers on my roommates computer, because I didn't have one. The only place that you have me is that I spent an ass load of $$$ on boose.
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Old 10-07-2002, 11:29 AM   #102
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Here Here..
Just remember, we have it easier..

YEAH RIGHT..NOT!
I'm not going to sit here and say that is the case.

I'm white...and honestly I thank God I was born white.

Not because I hate blacks, mexicans etc...but because I do know that because of the fact that I am white while my life may be difficult it is less difficult than the average black man's life.

Chris Rock made a good comment in his stand up act...and I'm paraphrasing here...but basically he said...

There's not a white guy in the audience that would change places with me...and I'm rich.
There's a one legged white busboy right now sitting there thinking...'no that's okay...I'm gonna ride this white thing out and see how far it takes me.'


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People that whine about their lives suck.

White people that whine about their lives really suck.
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Old 10-07-2002, 11:39 AM   #104
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Old 10-07-2002, 11:40 AM   #105
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People that whine about their lives suck.

White people that whine about their lives really suck.
God knows we get all those free newspapers...and the parties on the public buses when the black people get off are just fucking wild!

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White people that whine about their lives really suck.
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I'm not going to sit here and say that is the case.

I'm white...and honestly I thank God I was born white.

Not because I hate blacks, mexicans etc...but because I do know that because of the fact that I am white while my life may be difficult it is less difficult than the average black man's life.

Chris Rock made a good comment in his stand up act...and I'm paraphrasing here...but basically he said...

There's not a white guy in the audience that would change places with me...and I'm rich.
There's a one legged white busboy right now sitting there thinking...'no that's okay...I'm gonna ride this white thing out and see how far it takes me.'


Funny but true.
I'm not saying that we have life so much harder, I just really wish true equality was possible. Hiring practices should be based strictly on qualifications. Everybody should have to work equally as hard to obtain those qualifications.
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Old 10-07-2002, 11:48 AM   #108
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I'm not saying that we have life so much harder, I just really wish true equality was possible. Hiring practices should be based strictly on qualifications. Everybody should have to work equally as hard to obtain those qualifications.
thats the smartest thing uve said all day
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Old 10-07-2002, 11:53 AM   #109
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thats the smartest thing uve said all day
Most everything else I said was factual, not opinion. Sorry you don't agree! F.Y.I. "uve" is not a word. I think you were meaning you've.

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Old 10-07-2002, 11:55 AM   #110
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My dad owned a construction company in Northern California in the 80's and went out of business because there was a 5% legal bid preference to minority business owners. I don't know if the law still exists, but it lasted long enough to put my dad out of business.
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Old 10-07-2002, 11:55 AM   #111
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geez stop complaining,,

everyone always cry its not fair,, whine whine whine,

well life ain't fair,, there were rules and policy in place for a reason,,

just be thankful for what you got and stop worrying bout the other person

You can't point out something you seen one time and assume that its the same for everyone,
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Old 10-07-2002, 11:57 AM   #112
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I'm not saying that we have life so much harder, I just really wish true equality was possible. Hiring practices should be based strictly on qualifications. Everybody should have to work equally as hard to obtain those qualifications.

Well maybe in a perfect world,
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Old 10-07-2002, 11:57 AM   #113
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Take a psychology course and you'll learn that often times their are reasons why some stereotypes persist despite having any reason to persist. Some stereotypes do exist for a good reason, others do not.
i noticed that two times you made the same ignorant remark that someone should read about psychology before their opinion or life experience is relevant.

WHAT A GREAT FUCKING IDEA!

what better way to insulate yourself from criticism

now i am now going to start every post with
"if you would take the time to read up on early Greek philosophers, you would have known that..."
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Old 10-07-2002, 12:00 PM   #114
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Your dad is a fucking idiot then.
Your telling me your dad had 100% white employees and he needed 5% ethnic workers.

What happened, he didn't hire enough ethnic people and was shutdown by the law or he couldn't interview for shit and hired morons?
You aren't understanding what I said. It had nothing to do with who my dad hired, it had to do with a legal bid preference. In other words, for those who don't understand, if my dad bid $100,000 to do a job and a minority business owner bid $105,000 to do a job, the biddee had to accept the higher bid because it was placed by a minority business owner. It was against every law of capitalism. That is why I said that I don't believe that the law still exists. I think it was part of the affirmative action laws. But is was still bullshit.
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You aren't understanding what I said. It had nothing to do with who my dad hired, it had to do with a legal bid preference. In other words, for those who don't understand, if my dad bid $100,000 to do a job and a minority business owner bid $105,000 to do a job, the biddee had to accept the higher bid because it was placed by a minority business owner. It was against every law of capitalism. That is why I said that I don't believe that the law still exists. I think it was part of the affirmative action laws. But is was still bullshit.
Yeah sorry I misread your other post. I changed my reply before I saw this post.

People should be treated fair, but often times the minority groups receive help and end up getting unfair advantages.
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"if you would take the time to read up on early Greek philosophers, you would have known that..."

Socrates' mom was Phaenarete?

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Old 10-07-2002, 12:16 PM   #117
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If people were treated the same, we wouldn't
even have issues like this to discuss.
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this is impossible, we all know what we know from our experiences and base our opinions from them

and being "color blind" just isn't gonna work.
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its not gonna matter in 200 years. after all the inter-racial breeding going on were all going to look like mexicans anyway. there will be no proud white or black heritage.
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Do you think hiring is ever solely based on qualifications? Especially at the upper echelon of society. Shit we have an "affirmative action" president of the U.S. . A real fucking presidential legacy. ROTFLOL...

You are in for a lot of disappointment this is CAPITALISM SON.

Sorry to break it to about the minority contracting thing, but your dad should have put the company in his wife's name. But, I supposed you never bothered to look at the "real" composition of a majority of those minority "owned" companies, or how to take advantage of the rules.


I love how everybody has such great anecdotal "evidence."
This is really funny!

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Do you think hiring is ever solely based on qualifications? Especially at the upper echelon of society. Shit we have an "affirmative action" president of the U.S. . A real fucking presidential legacy. ROTFLOL...

You are in for a lot of disappointment this is CAPITALISM SON.

Sorry to break it to about the minority contracting thing, but your dad should have put the company in his wife's name. But, I supposed you never bothered to look at the "real" composition of a majority of those minority "owned" companies, or how to take advantage of the rules.


I love how everybody has such great anecdotal "evidence."
This is really funny!
Capitalism is treating me just fine. And this isn't evidence of anything, just my humble personal experiences. My dad didn't have a wife who's name he could just slide the company to, but thanks for the answers to all the problems, nice ANECDOTAL response!
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Do you think hiring is ever solely based on qualifications? Especially at the upper echelon of society. Shit we have an "affirmative action" president of the U.S. . A real fucking presidential legacy. ROTFLOL...

You are in for a lot of disappointment this is CAPITALISM SON.

Sorry to break it to about the minority contracting thing, but your dad should have put the company in his wife's name. But, I supposed you never bothered to look at the "real" composition of a majority of those minority "owned" companies, or how to take advantage of the rules.


I love how everybody has such great anecdotal "evidence."
This is really funny!

What a fucking idiot!
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the minority share of the "amerikkkan pie" is much much smaller than you think.The sad thing is is that white people honestly think that they are discriminated against but of course dont get hounded for 20 questions when they walk into a store.


Case and point while I was in Vegas a few friends of mines roll up into the Gucci store to geta few things. White couple goes in right before us they are said hello by the doorman and dont get followed around the store. Me and my friends get followed like hawks with people alternating back and forth to see if we were stealing and asking us did we need any help.


Guess who bought over 2k in shit? I did by myself..the other couple just window shopped. Shit like that angers me. Things in my daily life are scruntinzed even more so being a minority in america but fuck the bullshit...im use to it..lol


the exact opposite happens my white ass at the Target on LaCienega, where the Fedco used to be... until the riots... oh, and Magic Johnson's TGIF here in my neighborhood... let's just say I ain't a pussy, but I ain't gonna be getting in that line anytime soon... and that Starbucks next door is even worse... I bet more people goto Target, TGIF, and Starbucks than a fucking Gucci store.
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Try living in Compton!

I did back in 1995 with my Aunt.
I was the only white boy on the street.

In fact, my family has lived in the same
neighborhood for about 70 years. My Aunt
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You won't see me in the area unless I am packing
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I ain't no pussy either.

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I ain't no pussy either.
You Ain't?
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If I were what I eat, I suppose that would
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My pops always told me, "dont ever forget that you're just a Mexican living in a white world". This is something that most white people cant comprehend. We all just need to help eachother along, just be glad youre white and take the good with the bad like the rest of us
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the exact opposite happens my white ass at the Target on LaCienega, where the Fedco used to be... until the riots... oh, and Magic Johnson's TGIF here in my neighborhood... let's just say I ain't a pussy, but I ain't gonna be getting in that line anytime soon... and that Starbucks next door is even worse... I bet more people goto Target, TGIF, and Starbucks than a fucking Gucci store.
man me and my friends go to that TGIF all the time...lots of honies over there! All you do is sit down at the bar and they are on you like bees to honey!!
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My pops always told me, "dont ever forget that you're just a Mexican living in a white world". This is something that most white people cant comprehend. We all just need to help eachother along, just be glad youre white and take the good with the bad like the rest of us
indeed. I seriously laugh when i hear a white man complain about his "conditions"
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man me and my friends go to that TGIF all the time...lots of honies over there! All you do is sit down at the bar and they are on you like bees to honey!!
you live near here?
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indeed. I seriously laugh when i hear a white man complain about his "conditions"
I seriously laugh when i hear ANYBODY complain the white man has put them down for years.

How is it present day stuff always related to slavery or the 60's civial rights movement.

if we can't get forget/forgive the past we cannot move forward in the future.
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you live near here?
im not too far from there...just on the other side of LA...nothing short of ghetto fabolous
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I didn't read this entire thread, just the original post, and I hear ya.

A few years ago my best friend was pregnant and unsure of what to do. She went to the welfare office and applied for help as she was broke and wanted a quick abortion. Well two visits and a hella bunch of paperwork later, the social worker tells her "Oh, you mean you want to terminate the pregnancy? Well you don't qualify for any assistance with that. However if you WANT to have the baby we can help you."

What kind of shit is that?? I had to lend her the $400 to terminate the pregnancy, but the mother fuckers were gonna give her the whole benefits package if she were to KEEP the baby, yet she wanted an abortion and they would not give her any assistance. UNREAL.

And on this same immigration topic. My 19 year old sister just had a short lived job at a mexican restaurant. You would not believe the stories she told me over maybe the three weeks she worked there. They have almost an entire staff of ILLEGAL immigrants in this restaurant. They have busboys that cross the border and start work there the same day. The restaurant has a special deal with a check cashing company that arrives with a truck out back on pay day and cashes these checks for these illegal immigrants with no question. Most of them have fake paperwork and are paid less than minimum wage.

It came down to her having a bad day, and then one of the illegal immigrant waitresses (who barely spoke english) going off on her and telling her "youre just a white girl and you dont belong here," and well my sister walked out on the job because she could not deal with that and other issues pertaining to the crummy job in general.

But get this: In her getting to know some of the other workers and making acquaintances she asked one of the kitchen guys how he made it into this country. He was open about the fact that he is an illegal immigrant.

College kids down in San Diego, right by the Mexican border, put together little "american" kits and take their mini-vans down to Tijuana. There is a whole gang of them who do this: They charge the Mexicans like $200-300 bucks, dress them up like Americanized hispanic gangster guys and latina girls, and sneak them across in their mini vans dressed like a Mexican-American.

This kitchen worker even said he was rather embarrassed, but they shaved his head and made him wear a hair net, baggy dickies and nike shoes. They will take a Mexican female and help her bleach her hair, put on makeup and wear tight hoochie style clothing like they do in So Cal. They dress their kids in Disney and American clothing brands, and help them sneak over. Another ploy they use is to keep their little kids awake for like 2-3 days straight prior to their crossing, so that when the inspectors try to question the kids, they will be too tired to respond and give any hint to the fact that they're not American.

Can you imagine? I was baffled when she told me this, its pretty funny but almost unreal.
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