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Old 02-21-2008, 11:39 AM   #1
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Do you think Starbucks regrets having T-Mobile as their wireless internet provider?

Starbucks always seems to be ahead of the game. But it still surprises me when I am in one and I have to pay for Wireless Internet access. I mean, this made sense when it first came out as they were ahead of the curve.

But now, Wi-Fi is free everywhere. Jack in the Box announced this morning that they are rolling out free Wi-Fi in 9 of their California restaurants; with more to come. Not too mention every time a mom and pop coffee shop springs up, wireless always seems to be free.

I avoid them now because of it. I hate having to figure out what my T-Mobile account info is. It just seems outdated for a coffee shop to still charge for access. I bet a lot of people avoid them over it.
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hmmmm i thought i saw an article that ATT was giving them free wifi soon or something about starbux having free wifi soon...
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Starbucks always seems to be ahead of the game. But it still surprises me when I am in one and I have to pay for Wireless Internet access. I mean, this made sense when it first came out as they were ahead of the curve.

But now, Wi-Fi is free everywhere. Jack in the Box announced this morning that they are rolling out free Wi-Fi in 9 of their California restaurants; with more to come. Not too mention every time a mom and pop coffee shop springs up, wireless always seems to be free.

I avoid them now because of it. I hate having to figure out what my T-Mobile account info is. It just seems outdated for a coffee shop to still charge for access. I bet a lot of people avoid them over it.
Most every McDonalds has free wifi now also. They also sell coffee much cheaper than Starbucks.
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yah i saw that the other day. some cities here have their own free wifi city wide. not sure where they are going with that unless its some sort of premium uber fast connections to brag about. to me it just looked like a reg wifi connect though.
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Most every McDonalds has free wifi now also. They also sell coffee much cheaper than Starbucks.
But they have those hard ass get out quick chairs. lol
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Most every McDonalds has free wifi now also. They also sell coffee much cheaper than Starbucks.
And in most cases better tasting. Starbucks always taste burnt to me...


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I could not agree more.

Peter Piper Pizza even has free wifi here!
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And in most cases better tasting. Starbucks always taste burnt to me...


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You are the 10th person who I've heard say that lately.
& you're right too ... for a regular cup of joe, I would rather make Folgers at home than order it at Starbucks.

(I am addicted to the over priced foo foo drinks though)
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You are the 10th person who I've heard say that lately.
& you're right too ... for a regular cup of joe, I would rather make Folgers at home than order it at Starbucks.

(I am addicted to the over priced foo foo drinks though)
I personally think for just a plain cup of coffee Dunkin donuts has the best.
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hmmmm i thought i saw an article that ATT was giving them free wifi soon or something about starbux having free wifi soon...
I haven't read such, but it would make complete sense. I mean, charging for Wi-Fi can't be good for business.
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:10 PM   #11
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Most every McDonalds has free wifi now also. They also sell coffee much cheaper than Starbucks.
Yeah, well even regardless of coffee quality, I would take inferior coffee over paying for Wi-Fi. It's just me, I can't stand the process of paying for it. And that adds up.
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well now that they jsut bought Seattle's best coffee, everything should be free!! lol
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hmmmm i thought i saw an article that ATT was giving them free wifi soon or something about starbux having free wifi soon...
That is correct, it will be free within a few months in all starbucks.
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Here, the starbucks are hit and miss, none of the kentucky side SB's have free wifi, a couple on the cincinnati side do. BUT on the ky side, there are some other "open" wifi's if you search them while in SB. Or just do what I do and use a sprint EVDO cars... seems to be a lot faster than any of the free Wifi spots around here period
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well now that they jsut bought Seattle's best coffee, everything should be free!! lol

That was in 2003 that Starbuck's bought Seattle's Best. I also think Starbucks tastes over roasted. BUT... the Christmas Blend this past season was really good.

I too, hate paying for WiFi. McDonald's WiFi works in the parking lot, but of course it looks funny sitting in your car on the laptop
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As many times as I have been to a Starbucks I have yet to go there for the Internet connection.


Well, I may have sat down in OKC, but I used my own wireless.
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That was in 2003 that Starbuck's bought Seattle's Best. I also think Starbucks tastes over roasted. BUT... the Christmas Blend this past season was really good.

I too, hate paying for WiFi. McDonald's WiFi works in the parking lot, but of course it looks funny sitting in your car on the laptop
To be honest, I don't like Hotels charging me for access. To be honest, if they want to charge, I would rather they just include it in my overall cost and leave it open.

I hate it when you just want to check something really quick and you have to fill out crap.
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As many times as I have been to a Starbucks I have yet to go there for the Internet connection.


Well, I may have sat down in OKC, but I used my own wireless.
You know, it's odd man....sometimes I enjoy being in a public place. Just to get out of the house. Now, I am in an office now, but prior to this job, I went a few times a week.

Also, sometimes on a Saturday morning I like ordering coffee, a whole-wheat muffin with a touch of honey, and just sitting at the table online.
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Also Baddog, to follow that point. I have an iPhone and surely more and more iPhone-esq devices are in the works. I love being able to pop online wherever I am at.
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One closest to us has a big screen tv, plus soft padded seating area. More like a livingroom environment lol.
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You know, it's odd man....sometimes I enjoy being in a public place. Just to get out of the house. Now, I am in an office now, but prior to this job, I went a few times a week.

Also, sometimes on a Saturday morning I like ordering coffee, a whole-wheat muffin with a touch of honey, and just sitting at the table online.
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Starbucks always seems to be ahead of the game. But it still surprises me when I am in one and I have to pay for Wireless Internet access. I mean, this made sense when it first came out as they were ahead of the curve.

But now, Wi-Fi is free everywhere. Jack in the Box announced this morning that they are rolling out free Wi-Fi in 9 of their California restaurants; with more to come. Not too mention every time a mom and pop coffee shop springs up, wireless always seems to be free.

I avoid them now because of it. I hate having to figure out what my T-Mobile account info is. It just seems outdated for a coffee shop to still charge for access. I bet a lot of people avoid them over it.
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the starbucks beside my house, has a bar next door.

the bar offers free wifi.

i drink my coffee and use the free wifi next door, as im sure everyone else does
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I offered free wifi in my deli, which is close to a college campus. I did quite a bit of business from people coming in just because of it being available.
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What is the Mac solution? Verizon have a card for Mac laptops?
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That was in 2003 that Starbuck's bought Seattle's Best. I also think Starbucks tastes over roasted. BUT... the Christmas Blend this past season was really good.

I too, hate paying for WiFi. McDonald's WiFi works in the parking lot, but of course it looks funny sitting in your car on the laptop

Maybe they bought it in the US but they just bought up all the Canadian franchises back from the Canadian holding co that owned it.
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Come to your senses and buy a PC?
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One closest to us has a big screen tv, plus soft padded seating area. More like a livingroom environment lol.
you got one of the updated ones you lucky bastard. lol
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You are the 10th person who I've heard say that lately.
& you're right too ... for a regular cup of joe, I would rather make Folgers at home than order it at Starbucks.

(I am addicted to the over priced foo foo drinks though)
Starbucks uses second rate beans (not arabica), which grow on the plains not on the hillside which means they have less flavor, which in turn forces the over toasting of the beans to give any flavor, which is why the coffee tastes burned.

I actually really hate Starbucks for doing this, as virtually every other chain coffee shop buys and uses arabica beans that taste so much better. Starbucks is thinking about its bottom line, and not about the products it serves.

Hence I will always go somewhere else.

As for the T-Mobile service i was forced to use it last time i was in LA for webmaster access last year and its a fucking nuisance and takes ages to download stuff. Not worth paying $10 a day for (or however much it was), thats for sure.
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hmmmm i thought i saw an article that ATT was giving them free wifi soon or something about starbux having free wifi soon...

They said that complete details haven't been finalized yet.

They are switching to ATT and are thinking about giving customers 2 hours free access if you have a Starbucks card with a balance on it.

They may start out like that but it will not be long before it is totally free.
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While you are arguing that paying for WiFi is bad for business because other restaurants offer it for free, I have read many articles from the coffee shops perspective saying the exact opposite. I keep seeing them talk about how terrible WiFi is for business because all it does is keeps freeloaders taking up space in the restaurant while other customers are pushed away due to lack of space.
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I actually paid for that Tmobile shit service, I didnt know what it was exactly at the time and hoped it beamed out to my place which was a block down...
so dont beat me with a stick, i cancelled it soon after and i have sprint wifi now.. worked great at 10mbps during the 10 day refund period... went to shit on day 11 and god dam Sprint has the worst website and billing in existance... after my 2 year fuck over period is done, its hello Verizon
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now from what I heard on the radio in two yrs wimax will be national and it wont matter anymore.
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:01 PM   #46
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oh so i bet you are on the content theft list and run a tube site with it as well? we will be watching you
Who is this "we" lol Everyone pick up a torch yo!.
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:56 PM   #47
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oh so i bet you are on the content theft list and run a tube site with it as well? we will be watching you
wifi knowledge != content theft

rofl stupidfuck
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:10 PM   #49
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Having ATT's DSL gives you free access to their network of WiFi hotspots, I would assume this will include the Starbucks as well.

The Verizon EVDO is typically 600 Kbps to 1.4 Mbps and if you exceed 5 GB/line/month, they reserve the right to reduce throughput speeds to a maximum of approximately 200 Kbps.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:53 PM   #50
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Most every McDonalds has free wifi now also. They also sell coffee much cheaper than Starbucks.
lol yeah even our little towns McD's has free wifi
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