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  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204
    #1

    Why Tubes aren't causing a loss in sales

    Because tube sites have tons of random porn...its that simple.

    They attract the same people who type in sex in google. Looking for general porn. Those people dont buy something quickly anyway...they just look for free porn in general.

    If you have or promote a niche site then you won't notice anything negative.

    I could explain it in 10 sentences but think about it, it's really that simple.
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    • crockett
      in a van by the river
      • May 2003
      • 76818
      #2
      Actually I always thought those were the most common types of people to buy porn. Noobs that don't know where to find it for free..
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        • Twig
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          • Nov 2005
          • 1949
          #3
          What you say makes sense Dirty, but Im not sure that niche sites wont be affected at all. Some tube sites have a lot of niched content. Its not all titled "Blonde gives blowjob".

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            • Dirty F
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2001
              • 59204
              #4
              Well whats better SE traffic for sales? "sex" or "big tit lesbians".

              I think people looking for sex are satisfied more easily. They find a free porn vid, save it to their puter and jerk it a couple of times. Someone looking for big tit lesbians will have a hard time finding good free content in that niche. In his search he will bump into a site dedicated exactly to that. Good chance he will sign up.

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                • jollyperv
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                  • Nov 2001
                  • 3927
                  #5
                  Honestly, you're 100% correct. The tubes can keep their vanilla porn.

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                    • IndustryTruth
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                      • Sep 2007
                      • 61
                      #6
                      Interesting perspective....

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                        • Twig
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                          • Nov 2005
                          • 1949
                          #7
                          niche sites are where its at anyhow.

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                            • will76
                              Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                              • May 2003
                              • 18037
                              #8
                              LOL give it time, tube sites are still new. You think the first couple tgps out there were about midgets fucking bbws ? lol.

                              Ofcourse they are going to start with the general porn stuff. Wait till that gets saturaited and people learn they can make more money from making a bbwtube or asiantube and being the only niche tube site vs being number 12,302 general tube site and trying to get a sliver of the pie. Sometimes being #1 of a smaller niche is better than being #1000 of the general stuff.

                              Give it time, there will be popular niche tube sites with illegal content on it over the next couple years.
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                                • Twig
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                                  • Nov 2005
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by will76
                                  LOL give it time, tube sites are still new. You think the first couple tgps out there were about midgets fucking bbws ? lol.

                                  Ofcourse they are going to start with the general porn stuff. Wait till that gets saturaited and people learn they can make more money from making a bbwtube or asiantube and being the only niche tube site vs being number 12,302 general tube site and trying to get a sliver of the pie. Sometimes being #1 of a smaller niche is better than being #1000 of the general stuff.

                                  Give it time, there will be popular niche tube sites with illegal content on it over the next couple years.
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                                    • Dirty F
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 59204
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by will76
                                      LOL give it time, tube sites are still new. You think the first couple tgps out there were about midgets fucking bbws ? lol.

                                      Ofcourse they are going to start with the general porn stuff. Wait till that gets saturaited and people learn they can make more money from making a bbwtube or asiantube and being the only niche tube site vs being number 12,302 general tube site and trying to get a sliver of the pie. Sometimes being #1 of a smaller niche is better than being #1000 of the general stuff.

                                      Give it time, there will be popular niche tube sites with illegal content on it over the next couple years.
                                      You gave me some nice ideas. Thanks.

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                                        • Dirty F
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 59204
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Twig
                                          Hit me up... got a new project idea :P
                                          Haha fucker..


                                          Seriously, that post by Will will result in a good bunch of Godaddy purchases tonight i bet.

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                                            • trustedfriend
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                                              • Aug 2007
                                              • 81
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Twig
                                              What you say makes sense Dirty, but Im not sure that niche sites wont be affected at all. Some tube sites have a lot of niched content. Its not all titled "Blonde gives blowjob".
                                              I was thinking about that too. As they have more and more content on, especially with the longer vids on, the surfers will be able to find anything they want, for free.

                                              2-3 mins long clips are okay on tube sites, many have said and won't hurt anyone.
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                                                • Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 7515
                                                  #13
                                                  you can search tube sites for your favorite niche

                                                  big tits
                                                  anal
                                                  oral
                                                  lesbians

                                                  and so on

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                                                    • xmas13
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                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                      • 5176
                                                      #14
                                                      I often visit one of the biggest porn tubes out there.

                                                      The clips are very short (2-3 min). Bad quality homemade porn, fat women.

                                                      You get what you pay for, which means nothing.
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                                                        • Dirty F
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 59204
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Jet
                                                          you can search tube sites for your favorite niche

                                                          big tits
                                                          anal
                                                          oral
                                                          lesbians

                                                          and so on
                                                          Yes but still its crap. Maybe that will change like Will mentioned but right now i have a hard time believing those vids will satisfy the niche surfer.

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                                                            • Dirty F
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 59204
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by xmas13
                                                              I often visit one of the biggest porn tubes out there.

                                                              The clips are very short (2-3 min). Bad quality homemade porn, fat women.

                                                              You get what you pay for, which means nothing.
                                                              I never visit them. If i surf around i still go to tgps or mgps. Better content on those sites than 99% of the tubesites if you ask me.

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                                                                • xmas13
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                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                  • 5176
                                                                  #17
                                                                  I don't know how many of you surf porn tubes, but you often land there because someone sent you a link to a disgusting vid :-) Ah ah :-)
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                                                                    • halfpint
                                                                      GFY's Halfpint
                                                                      • Jun 2007
                                                                      • 15223
                                                                      #18
                                                                      There are certian content producers that allow you to use bought content on tube sites allready

                                                                      Will76 your viral disscussion actually makes sense I posted a similar thread here about the interactivity of websites
                                                                      http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...light=halfpint

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                                                                        • will76
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                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                          • 18037
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                          Haha fucker..


                                                                          Seriously, that post by Will will result in a good bunch of Godaddy purchases tonight i bet.
                                                                          those domains were taken several months / years ago., i know i checked


                                                                          but i did land some nice buytubetraffic, tubesitebrokers etc.. type domains. It wont be much longer till people selling and brokering some of that traffic.
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                                                                            • topamillion
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                                                                              • Aug 2007
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              i have a tube site and i know i sent tons of traffic to paysites and they surely did money thanks to me.
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                                                                                • Twig
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                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                  • 1949
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                  Haha fucker..


                                                                                  Seriously, that post by Will will result in a good bunch of Godaddy purchases tonight i bet.
                                                                                  And maybe a TEVS purchase or two.

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                                                                                    • xmas13
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                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                      • 5176
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I don't think tube websites threaten content producers. There are simply too many producers in a shrinking market and a natural selection must occur. Chinese, Indians, Arabs are not replacing the European/American customers of yesterday.
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                                                                                        • Dirty F
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 59204
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by will76
                                                                                          those domains were taken several months / years ago., i know i checked


                                                                                          but i did land some nice buytubetraffic, tubesitebrokers etc.. type domains. It wont be much longer till people selling and brokering some of that traffic.
                                                                                          Yup, those sounds like good buys.

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                                                                                            • will76
                                                                                              Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                              • 18037
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by halfpint
                                                                                              There are certian content producers that allow you to use bought content on tube sites allready

                                                                                              Will76 your viral disscussion actually makes sense I posted a similar thread here about the interactivity of websites
                                                                                              http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...light=halfpint
                                                                                              I have been saying for well over a year that was the master plan by AFF and why they funded these sites. They don't own a membership site, just dating and cams. So not only they did make money off of other people's stolen content, they helped devalue their competition. The affiliates of these other sites make less money and are more likely to come give AFF a try. It was a win win for them. Maybe it wasn't their master plan, I might give them too much credit.
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                                                                                                • ucv.karl
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2006
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                  Give it time, there will be popular niche tube sites with illegal content on it over the next couple years.
                                                                                                  Years? How about months.
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                                                                                                    • halfpint
                                                                                                      GFY's Halfpint
                                                                                                      • Jun 2007
                                                                                                      • 15223
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      good opertuinity here for content producers to sell 1-2 min vids just for tube sites I see so many other people on other forums asking to buy vids for tube sites plus they can be used for plugging your site and getting traffic.

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                                                                                                        • Martin
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                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Most tube sites have a ton of niche videos all ready.

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                                                                                                            • D Ghost
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                                                                                                              • May 2006
                                                                                                              • 9820
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Well said DirtyF

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                                                                                                                • bns666
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                                                                                                                  #29
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                                                                                                                    • Warren
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                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                      • 2284
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Im thinking live cam sites are the only survivors out of this,
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                                                                                                                        • Diligent
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                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                          • 1594
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I've been thinking along these lines myself.







                                                                                                                          AND HERE'S WHAT COULD REALLY KICK ASS, "ILLEGAL TUBE" ASS THAT IS:
                                                                                                                          (Sorry for the attention whoring, I just think it's *that good*..)


                                                                                                                          How about all webmasters wanting to try the "sponsor-fed" tubes do so, and sponsors start providing more of the content needed (30-60 second clips)... and in addition provide more ready made embeddable Flash clips..?

                                                                                                                          Sort of like.. the whole industry going at "the new thing" with full force.
                                                                                                                          If that would happen, I foresee pretty heavy competition for the illegal tubes.

                                                                                                                          Think about *that*, keeping this in mind:

                                                                                                                          • Which sites will get most traffic from search engines? The *focused* sites run by REAL ADULT *WEBMASTERS*, far outnumbering their antagonists... or the generic themed tubes/forums/whatever?
                                                                                                                            Emphasis on the positive impact here of *quantities* of legal tubes/tube-like/MGP's, linktrading and possibly even traffictrading with MGP's ...

                                                                                                                          • There would be very little reason/incentive for surfers, with any taste preference, to prefer less organized sites with stolen 20-minute clips, than organized ones..

                                                                                                                          • The traffic they'll manage to scrape up, will be more or less useless - bookmarkers or not. PURE PIMPLED-ASS FREELOADERS!


                                                                                                                          I think we can turn this around, especially if we "fight fire with fire" here...
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                                                                                                                            • Zorgman
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                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                              • 6103
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              If you have a general tube site, your going to make some money.
                                                                                                                              But the real money is with niche based tube sites. Like tranny, gay or boobs. Alot of TEVS owners I know of have picked a niche and built around that.

                                                                                                                              I have tried a straight "hardcore" tube site and the signups are all way below what I was expecting. But the same design on a niche site proved to be the winner.

                                                                                                                              The most important part about any adult site is to tease the surfer. If you can jurk off to your own content, you will never make any good money because the surfer will to and you have lost the sale.
                                                                                                                              If your using sponsors content and its 60 seconds, make sure you have 2 parts of the video. Cut them into 2, so you have 2 lots of 30 second videos. Different positons are the best. The reason is because a repeative motion is enough to jurk off to, if the video moves to another position it puts the surfer off. I know I hate that. But it makes me want to watch the full video.

                                                                                                                              I have found that 60 second clips work the best.
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                                                                                                                                • BenKennedy
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                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2008
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  diligent thinks the right way... IMHO
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                                                                                                                                    • crockett
                                                                                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 76818
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I still get a kick out of every noob and his brother thinking you need "tube" in the domain. It's like when the blog craze hit. Every tool in the shed was buying every "blog" domain they could find.
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                                                                                                                                        • Penny24Seven
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                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2007
                                                                                                                                          • 6287
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          so when a member emails me and asks me why he is paying for a membership when he found my videos for free and goes to cancel it has nothing to do with it?
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                                                                                                                                            • tony299
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                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 57021
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Warren
                                                                                                                                              Im thinking live cam sites are the only survivors out of this,
                                                                                                                                              then tubes lose no content to steal. if the roi goes down the toilet to shoot content .shooting will not happen.

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                                                                                                                                                • SilentKnight
                                                                                                                                                  Megan Fox's fluffer
                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                                  • 24818
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Did someone say the Tubes?


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                                                                                                                                                    • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 57021
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                                                                                                                      Did someone say the Tubes?


                                                                                                                                                      what a great band, very under rated.

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