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D 02-20-2008 12:32 PM

50 arguments as to which of god's gifts is more dangerous.

cool1 02-20-2008 12:41 PM

quite a funny thread :upsidedow

chelo - adultcopywriters 02-20-2008 12:47 PM

Alcohol and Marijuana both have good and bad effects and we can discuss that all day. My conclusion on them is that no drug or substance or narcotic or whatever you want to call it, is good when used too much!

Anything taken to the limits is bad but we're fucking humans ppl, so it's not bad at all to have a couple of beers or smokin a joint now and then, at leas that's what I think. And I'm absolutely sure marijuana is less dangerous than bloody cigarettes!

CarlosTheGaucho 02-20-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chelo - adultcopywriters (Post 13807901)
Alcohol and Marijuana both have good and bad effects and we can discuss that all day. My conclusion on them is that no drug or substance or narcotic or whatever you want to call it, is good when used too much!

Anything taken to the limits is bad but we're fucking humans ppl, so it's not bad at all to have a couple of beers or smokin a joint now and then, at leas that's what I think. And I'm absolutely sure marijuana is less dangerous than bloody cigarettes!

Yet noone will ever try to make himself to be an ubermensch by saying he is a drunk or smoking a pack a day, yet every single pothead will always hassle with you holding the torch for the brave new stoned world.

I don't care who will die earlier or whose health is more fucked up, I only care about who is more brain damaged and more incapable of communication when it's needed.

chelo - adultcopywriters 02-20-2008 01:24 PM

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Yet noone will ever try to make himself to be an ubermensch by saying he is a drunk or smoking a pack a day, yet every single pothead will always hassle with you holding the torch for the brave new stoned world.
I don't think every guy who smokes a joint is holding a torch for the brave new stoned world.

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I don't care who will die earlier or whose health is more fucked up, I only care about who is more brain damaged and more incapable of communication when it's needed.
Can't be more right 'bout this one!

AngusAl 02-20-2008 02:29 PM

One thing that no one has mentioned is the amount of Alcohol related deaths every single day from drunk drivers http://www.cdc.gov/MMWR/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5337a2.htm
in 2001 over 75,000 deaths related to Alcohol alone and that number increases every years
the deaths related to POT are not even rated they are so low

These are PROVEN facts

Pot is a far safer option according to the FDA of the two :)

KILL_FRENZY 02-20-2008 02:52 PM

As a conclusion from this thread ...marijuana it's less dangerous than alcohol

notoldschool 02-20-2008 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13807963)
Yet noone will ever try to make himself to be an ubermensch by saying he is a drunk or smoking a pack a day, yet every single pothead will always hassle with you holding the torch for the brave new stoned world.

I don't care who will die earlier or whose health is more fucked up, I only care about who is more brain damaged and more incapable of communication when it's needed.

Give me a break. Most people that use marijuana DONT hassle anyone let alone even tell anyone because of the idiotic american stigmatism. Yet Every day I hear idiots saying how they are going out to get hammered off alchohol. Alot of them drive drunk as well. Ever listen to an Alcoholic mumble his way through a sentence? Believe me, people who get drunk are more disgusting, more dangerous, and more incoherant than any one person who smokes pot. Keep dreaming.

Dirty F 02-20-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AngusAl (Post 13808347)
One thing that no one has mentioned is the amount of Alcohol related deaths every single day from drunk drivers http://www.cdc.gov/MMWR/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5337a2.htm
in 2001 over 75,000 deaths related to Alcohol alone and that number increases every years
the deaths related to POT are not even rated they are so low

These are PROVEN facts

Pot is a far safer option according to the FDA of the two :)

Yes, we all admit it, dont worry....pot is way safer. But the amount of idiots walking around like braindead morons every day because of weed is so big they arent even rated because it didnt fit on the paper.

notoldschool 02-20-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13808737)
Yes, we all admit it, dont worry....pot is way safer. But the amount of idiots walking around like braindead morons every day because of weed is so big they arent even rated because it didnt fit on the paper.

Better than smelling like a drunk who hides bottles in his office desk drawer. :2 cents:

Dirty F 02-20-2008 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13808480)
Give me a break. Most people that use marijuana DONT hassle anyone let alone even tell anyone because of the idiotic american stigmatism. Yet Every day I hear idiots saying how they are going out to get hammered off alchohol. Alot of them drive drunk as well. Ever listen to an Alcoholic mumble his way through a sentence? Believe me, people who get drunk are more disgusting, more dangerous, and more incoherant than any one person who smokes pot. Keep dreaming.


You know junkie, you are right, drunk people are more dangerous. You wont hear my deny that but im just tired of junkies like you acting as is the whole world should smoke weed for some reason. Weed makes you dumb and act like an idiot. Its not good for anything cept for those few rare cases where someone is sick and it might help.
Stop acting as if its a plant directly sent by god. Its just a drugs. A drugs like many others drugs which fucks you up and can make you an addict....like it does with man weed users.

Now go smoke your magical herb but just stfu about it. Ok?

Dirty F 02-20-2008 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13808753)
Better than smelling like a drunk who hides bottles in his office desk drawer. :2 cents:

No, not really no. But thats just your excuse because youre addict to weed. A booze addicted will say exactly the opposite.

notoldschool 02-20-2008 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13808756)
You know junkie, you are right, drunk people are more dangerous. You wont hear my deny that but im just tired of junkies like you acting as is the whole world should smoke weed for some reason. Weed makes you dumb and act like an idiot. Its not good for anything cept for those few rare cases where someone is sick and it might help.
Stop acting as if its a plant directly sent by god. Its just a drugs. A drugs like many others drugs which fucks you up and can make you an addict....like it does with man weed users.

Now go smoke your magical herb but just stfu about it. Ok?

Sorry but I dont think anyone should smoke weed, just those who choose to.
But it does make me sick to think that someone else can judge what I put in my body under misguided false rumors and allegations when there are far worse drugs that are socially acceptable. People in this country do NOT use commen sense when it comes to wasting all our money on criminalizing shit thats almost harmless while we cant get good health care. I dont give a flying fuck if anyone smokes week, but stop wasting my tax money throwing normal productive citizens in jail for smoking a natural plant with proven medicinal benefits.

Dirty F 02-20-2008 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13808777)
for smoking a natural plant with proven medicinal benefits.

Once again retard, alcohol is 100% natural as well.

You know what, why dont you go eat some deadly mushrooms. Its all natural man. Should be in the stores that shit.

notoldschool 02-20-2008 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13808772)
No, not really no. But thats just your excuse because youre addict to weed. A booze addicted will say exactly the opposite.

Actually I would say I am addicted to sugar at this point. But is it the goverments place to tell me to stop drinking sodas?

Dirty F 02-20-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13808786)
Actually I would say I am addicted to sugar at this point. But is it the goverments place to tell me to stop drinking sodas?

If you end up in the hospital without insurance then yes.

xmas13 02-20-2008 03:57 PM

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/images/p...07_ronaldo.jpg

Dirty F 02-20-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13808786)
Actually I would say I am addicted to sugar at this point. But is it the goverments place to tell me to stop drinking sodas?

Oh and let me guess...you smoke everyday but you are not addicted...like every weed junkie out there :1orglaugh

Another one of those weed is magic things. Nobody seems to be addicted to it when you ask them. Noone. :1orglaugh

notoldschool 02-20-2008 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13808785)
Once again retard, alcohol is 100% natural as well.

You know what, why dont you go eat some deadly mushrooms. Its all natural man. Should be in the stores that shit.

LOL.. that just proves my point. Why am i allowed to eat some crazy ass prescription drugs that ALTER my mind, most times in a negative way, because some jerk off who barely passed comp 2 gives me a prescription. Shit that should never get by the FDA is shoveled into our childrens mouth with the ok from the government, yet the goverment will raid a cancer patients house for a natural plant? I love run on sentences.

xmas13 02-20-2008 04:04 PM

The plant is natural, smoking it is not, dumbass.

TheDoc 02-20-2008 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13808793)
Oh and let me guess...you smoke everyday but you are not addicted...like every weed junkie out there :1orglaugh

Another one of those weed is magic things. Nobody seems to be addicted to it when you ask them. Noone. :1orglaugh

Pot is not addictive at all.. not even a little. Well, maybe a little but it's more like working out, a way to live habit that gets ya. The cycle of getting up, doing it, just wanting to be lazy because you can.. You can walk away from Pot 1000 times over and never have one "withdrawal" problem like some people have with alcohol and most with drugs.

Now, any person can get addicted to anything. I'm talking about a real addiction though, pot doesn't do that.

Dirty F 02-20-2008 04:06 PM

Whatever dude...listen, i dont care, smoke all you want, i have nothing against weed, alcohol, heroin or anything else. Do you want you want as long as you dont harm any others with it. But please for fuck sakes stop the miracle drug, plant from the earth bs. Please! Its a drug. And just like basically any other drug its not good for you. So just say: i dont like alcohol. I smoke weed instead. Alcohol is bad, maybe more than weed but being a weed addict isnt all that either.

You know, if you say that you wont see me in your thread but attacking alcohol while you have the idea that you smoke some godly herb pisses me off. You smoke drugs.

Dirty F 02-20-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13808828)
The plant is natural, smoking it is not, dumbass.

:1orglaugh

Didnt even think of that haha.

Dirty F 02-20-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13808833)
Pot is not addictive at all.. not even a little. Well, maybe a little but it's more like working out, a way to live habit that gets ya. The cycle of getting up, doing it, just wanting to be lazy because you can.. You can walk away from Pot 1000 times over and never have one "withdrawal" problem like some people have with alcohol and most with drugs.

Now, any person can get addicted to anything. I'm talking about a real addiction though, pot doesn't do that.

:1orglaugh

Thats the bigggggesst fucking bs ive heard in a long time. Omg, do you people smoke so much you completely lose touch with reality or what?

Dude ive seen SO fucking many weed addicted people in my life its not funny anymore.

Where exactly do you get this info from?

The magic herb from god book? Written by some dumb stoner?

AngusAl 02-20-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13808737)
Yes, we all admit it, dont worry....pot is way safer. But the amount of idiots walking around like braindead morons every day because of weed is so big they arent even rated because it didnt fit on the paper.

I think you are just attacking people that smoke weed........ I don't understand why you have this chip on your shoulder but WE as pot smokers are not attacking anyone. And I'm not sure braindead morons is how you should refer to any ONE group of people. I mean George Bush does not smoke pot and he really is BRAINDEAD :)

You already admit that smoking pot is safer between both Alcohol and Pot so just leave it alone and go have a drink or whatever YOU do to calm down and have a great day :thumbsup

Dirty F 02-20-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AngusAl (Post 13808877)
I think you are just attacking people that smoke weed........ I don't understand why you have this chip on your shoulder but WE as pot smokers are not attacking anyone. And I'm not sure braindead morons is how you should refer to any ONE group of people. I mean George Bush does not smoke pot and he really is BRAINDEAD :)

You already admit that smoking pot is safer between both Alcohol and Pot so just leave it alone and go have a drink or whatever YOU do to calm down and have a great day :thumbsup

I have nothing against smoking weed...jesus why dont you idiots understand what im trying to say. Im tired of weed users acting as if their drugs isnt drugs but something reaaaaaallly special thats made by god. Its fucking drugs...maybe less harmfull than lets say alcohol but its still drugs. Just fucking admit that, thats all im asking.

xmas13 02-20-2008 04:18 PM

Smoking weed is like a cult for a lot of people, it can't be argued, those who reject it are isolated, and there is a lot of pressure on enlisting new members. They worship Marijuana like others pray for Jesus Christ.

TheDoc 02-20-2008 04:19 PM

Well.. Maybe because I smoked, a lot, quit, and I'm not addicted? I'm a drinker too, I like my beer. I was well out of the Marines the first time I ever touched a drug.

And it's easy to prove really.. We can start with the 100000's of middle aged people that grew up in the 60's and 70's that had to quit during the 80's when drug testing kicked in. Or the millions and millions of people that do it once a year, a few times a month, or just once a week. Or you could just read what the entire medical profession that has studied it says.

sj_swank 02-20-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13807620)
Well i do know this:

Give someone 2 lines of coke and most people will hardly notice it but let someone puff twice from a joint and most of them will be fucked up for 2 hours.

Im not talking about how dangerous or addictive it is here. Just how strong it is and how it makes you feel.

fucked up for two hours from puffing a joint twice?? sweet! hook me up!

TheDoc 02-20-2008 04:24 PM

As you can clearly see the Pot Gods are with me.. My edit time on that last post was special.. Enough that I'm off for some fun.

Last edited by TheDoc : Today at 04:20 PM.

Dirty F 02-20-2008 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13808898)
Well.. Maybe because I smoked, a lot, quit, and I'm not addicted? I'm a drinker too, I like my beer. I was well out of the Marines the first time I ever touched a drug.

And it's easy to prove really.. We can start with the 100000's of middle aged people that grew up in the 60's and 70's that had to quit during the 80's when drug testing kicked in. Or the millions and millions of people that do it once a year, a few times a month, or just once a week. Or you could just read what the entire medical profession that has studied it says.

Listen we can discuss all we want...

Ive grown up between a lot of fucking people doing weed. I've seen plenty of addicts. You dont have to believe me but you should because i have no reason to lie.

Dirty F 02-20-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13808928)
As you can clearly see the Pot Gods are with me.. My edit time on that last post was special.. Enough that I'm off for some fun.

Last edited by TheDoc : Today at 04:20 PM.

Ok, thats kinda funny.

Dirty F 02-20-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13808896)
Smoking weed is like a cult for a lot of people, it can't be argued, those who reject it are isolated, and there is a lot of pressure on enlisting new members. They worship Marijuana like others pray for Jesus Christ.

Exactly! And why? I truly dont care if they smoke weed but why the worshipping thing? You dont see that with any other drug. At least not on a large scale like this.

TheDoc 02-20-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13808947)
Listen we can discuss all we want...

Ive grown up between a lot of fucking people doing weed. I've seen plenty of addicts. You dont have to believe me but you should because i have no reason to lie.


Just because a person "chooses" to be addicted doesn't mean they are. The persons life style and the repetitive nature of the habit is what you are seeing. Also, it's very hard to find "just a pot smoker", most also drink, smoke cigs, and do other drugs making it very hard for you to see what the real addiction is.

I'm not saying pot isn't bad, any drug at any level is bad, and once anything is abused it's just going to harm you. But addictive, is something Pot isn't, it chemically does not have a single property that can do that.

xmas13 02-20-2008 04:43 PM

Drinking has nothing to do with smoking.

Everyone drinks liquids, water, alcohol, juices etc.

Drugs are drugs, drugs are not natural habits.

Don't drink anything for a week and you will end up at emergency hospital.

D 02-20-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13808828)
The plant is natural, smoking it is not, dumbass.

Curious: do you consider cooking unnatural?

Dirty F 02-20-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13808969)
Just because a person "chooses" to be addicted doesn't mean they are. The persons life style and the repetitive nature of the habit is what you are seeing. Also, it's very hard to find "just a pot smoker", most also drink, smoke cigs, and do other drugs making it very hard for you to see what the real addiction is.

I'm not saying pot isn't bad, any drug at any level is bad, and once anything is abused it's just going to harm you. But addictive, is something Pot isn't, it chemically does not have a single property that can do that.

Yes but a mental addiction is still an addiction. People, especially potheads seem to ignore that.

xmas13 02-20-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 13809000)
Curious: do you consider cooking unnatural?

Why always bring this nonsense? Don't you have any arguments at all?

xmas13 02-20-2008 04:49 PM

A non-smoker speaking to a smoker is like a non-believer speaking to a believer.

xmas13 02-20-2008 04:53 PM

http://www.e-stoned.com/files/images/135.jpg

notoldschool 02-20-2008 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 13809000)
Curious: do you consider cooking unnatural?

People like him will never get it. Im suprised you do actually.

IndustryTruth 02-20-2008 05:07 PM

God created grass- Man created booze- who do you trust?

Evil E 02-20-2008 05:07 PM

Thanks for proving you are a trolling moran Dirty F. At least you get mag sig views.

D 02-20-2008 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13809013)
Why always bring this nonsense? Don't you have any arguments at all?

I wasn't aware that it was nonsense... and I'd think that you'd be able to infer my point from the question posed... but let me lay it out for you:

You said smoking is not natural. Yet the plant is natural; so is fire; so is breathing.

But, according to you, smoking - applying fire to the plant, and breathing in the result - is not natural.

By the same logic, I'd think you'd consider cooking unnatural.

After all, many foods are natural; so is fire; so is eating.

But I don't know what your philosophy is on the matter... for all I know, you could be a die-hard Hindu Jainist, or something of that order... so I'm asking you:

do you consider cooking unnatural?

Because it seems silly to consider one natural and the other not, imho.

trustedfriend 02-20-2008 05:20 PM

One of my close friends was using drugs and drinking much, few years ago. I'd say alcohol is still better in the case he lost too much weight because of drugs.

stev0 02-20-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13805006)
http://chroniccorner.net/2008/Februa...-Alcohol-2.htm

please explain to me why we pay massive amounts of money to fight a losing battle against a plant from the earth and not a horrific drug like alcohol. Im baffled.

"horrific" lol.. pot and alcohol are both fun and should both be legal IMO. And enjoyed responsibly of course.

Meloman 02-20-2008 05:41 PM

Frank, have you ever smoked a joint before? Even once?

Dirty F 02-20-2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman (Post 13809275)
Frank, have you ever smoked a joint before? Even once?

More than you could imagine.

notoldschool 02-20-2008 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 13809161)
"horrific" lol.. pot and alcohol are both fun and should both be legal IMO. And enjoyed responsibly of course.

Isnt that the way they speak of marijuana? Like it contains poison or something. Drinking a soda a day is worse for you than smoking a joint a day. Its just funny how people who get sloppy drunk act like people that smoke pot are junkies. LMAO!

dav3 02-20-2008 05:49 PM

Let's outlaw poison ivy!


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