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  • BusterBunny
    perverted justice decoy
    • Aug 2005
    • 19291

    #51
    fiddy
    my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

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    • Martin
      "Assassins"
      • Dec 2001
      • 17277

      #52
      Business must be slow hey Paul??? Sad.

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      • Martin
        "Assassins"
        • Dec 2001
        • 17277

        #53
        Paul, I don't mind you giving one minute clips too tube sites.. You have the right idea but you don't need to deal with these types of sites.. It's hurting your business in the long run.. Wake up man!!!

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        • Tempest
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • May 2004
          • 10217

          #54
          Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
          Have any lawyers ever weighed in on the subject of the possibility of tube advertisers being sued for contributory copyright infringement?

          http://www.quizlaw.com/copyrights/wh...nfringem_1.php
          I don't think that would apply.. However.. Every hosting company could probably be sued for "vicarious infringement" if they are notified that their client is constantly in violation of copyright infringement and they do nothing abou it...

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          • stever
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2005
            • 1716

            #55
            damn how did redtube get a ccbill id XXXX
            i want that one!


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            • L-Pink
              working on my tan
              • Mar 2005
              • 39151

              #56
              Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
              Have any lawyers ever weighed in on the subject of the possibility of tube advertisers being sued for contributory copyright infringement?

              http://www.quizlaw.com/copyrights/wh...nfringem_1.php

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              • Johny Traffic
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2003
                • 5461

                #57
                why on earth would anyone not see this as a step forward? Wouldn't everyone want them to list content given to them by sponsors and not stolen?

                Regardless of the length of videos they show, which has NOTHING to to with it, this is a new affiliate for PM and if they stopped all together using stolen content and worked with sponsors to use content provided than this is a step forward isn't it?

                If anyone thinks youtube sites are not here to stay then you are in for a rough few years. They are here to stay and I see this as a possitive step forward.


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                • Nookster
                  Confirmed IT Professional
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 3744

                  #58
                  No affiliate code means he bought the spot. Can't say it surprises me at all from him. It's also amazing how so many people in this thread haven't even looked at the page.
                  The Best Affiliate Software, Ever.

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                  • Johny Traffic
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 5461

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Nookster
                    No affiliate code means he bought the spot. Can't say it surprises me at all from him. It's also amazing how so many people in this thread haven't even looked at the page.
                    OK so what difference does that make? He has given them the content to use to advertise his site. If they only took content given to them by sponsors or advertisers, this would be a good thing wouldnt it?


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                    • pornask
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 6518

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Nookster
                      No affiliate code means he bought the spot.
                      It looks more like redtube missed that - they were supposed to include their aff code there, but forgot. If Paul bought the spot, it would be just linked directly to the .com domain.

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                      • Klen
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 32235

                        #61
                        Well one way or another nobody promotes Paul program so he have nothing to lose.

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                        • Johny Traffic
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 5461

                          #62
                          Originally posted by pornask
                          It looks more like redtube missed that - they were supposed to include their aff code there, but forgot. If Paul bought the spot, it would be just linked directly to the .com domain.
                          Makes no difference either way.


                          They are showing a video he has given them and advertising his site. Surely this is a step in the right direction isnt it? Wouldnt everyone here prefere thats all they used?


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                          • Matt 26z
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 18481

                            #63
                            Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                            Have any lawyers ever weighed in on the subject of the possibility of tube advertisers being sued for contributory copyright infringement?

                            http://www.quizlaw.com/copyrights/wh...nfringem_1.php
                            GFY needs to put the crackpipe down in regards to advertisers getting sued. It's never going to happen.

                            Advertisers play ZERO role in what gets posted to the infringing website. They MIGHT be helping them to stay open, but that is virtually impossible to prove since there could be other sources of income for the site or even just operating at a loss until buyout.

                            Contributory infringement would actually be for the tube site itself since the direct infringer would be the surfer who uploaded it.

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                            • ServerGenius
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 9377

                              #64
                              So your sites aren't the success you preached them to be when you're running
                              out of money, you lost a customer paul.....goodluck you're lucky Brno isn't that
                              expensive yet.
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                              • viencarl
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2007
                                • 4234

                                #65
                                I think they learn something from this thread that not all people agree to them

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                                • kmanrox
                                  aka K-Man
                                  • Oct 2001
                                  • 29295

                                  #66
                                  wow.. this thread is on fire... i'll sit this one out, but BVF your signature alone was enough to make me almost fall out of my chair...
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                                  • Brujah
                                    Beer Money Baron
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 22157

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                    GFY needs to put the crackpipe down in regards to advertisers getting sued. It's never going to happen.

                                    Advertisers play ZERO role in what gets posted to the infringing website. They MIGHT be helping them to stay open, but that is virtually impossible to prove since there could be other sources of income for the site or even just operating at a loss until buyout.

                                    Contributory infringement would actually be for the tube site itself since the direct infringer would be the surfer who uploaded it.
                                    I believe you're wrong. These sponsors can go after the sites like AFF, Brazzers, etc.. who monetize these sites and capture some of the money they've earned. They should check with their legal advisors.

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                                    • Nydahl
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2002
                                      • 6655

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                      Thanks Falcon for the link.

                                      This is my last word on this and all you who send us traffic can stop doing so if they don't like my reply. All those who buy content can also stop buying. The rest of you can keep not sending and not buying.

                                      This is business and our first loyalty is to our family, then employees, then affiliates. People in the business are a bit further down the list and posters on GFY come very low.

                                      We're giving Red Tube and other tube sites free content if they sign up or if they don't sign up. Content with our URL on and hopefully they will have a banner next to my content. we're looking for traffic. We will also be putting up an area in the affiliates section designed for Tube sites.

                                      If you guys had been sending lots of sign ups and buying lots of content you would have some sway in how we run my business. If you are in this position please email so we can discuss it.

                                      If you're not then you have no involvement in how we run our business. We will continue to support the efforts of www.removeyourcontent.com. Who sadly are banned from here. You might like to ask the moderators why that is.

                                      Will and Tony. We can't pay the bills with your respect. How much traffic or content did you send or buy from me when you had the "respect" you lost? Think about it. Because maybe if you were doing either or both we would not be going the route we are.
                                      So I think Paul deserves respect for this.
                                      We don't support tube sites any way but you have to understand that this is really pretty hard time for content producers.All that we produce to make profit is shared for free and our biz is close to die.
                                      I think its everyones choise and I repeat I understand Pauls move.

                                      We decided to focuse on custom production (which is hard to do now due to USD ratio) and our nonadult biz for some time and will see what happens.

                                      Wish you luck Paul - you are sick-old-freak but still very respectable and honest man as you've always been.
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                                      • MasterKeyword
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Feb 2008
                                        • 129

                                        #69
                                        you all complain but not one person do anything about it.. its no wonder they DO IT.... they know you wont do nothing about it.. fuck you don't even have to spend $10k retainer on lawyer to find out who SITE X is, they are on all your fucking payrolls...

                                        Sorry, I dont buy into this BS content producers are hurting for one second...

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                                        • Barefootsies
                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 42635

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Dennis Rodman
                                          Creative magic links created by a 90 year old dinosaur thinking that if it was placed this way, it would not be his fault and the GFYers and adult webmastering community would not blame him.

                                          The sad part is that the old mother fucker tends to forget that we are the ones that pay monthly bandwidth bills, and we know what type of TBs these cocksuckers are going through, so they would not for ONE FUCKING SECOND send a surfer to a link unless the ad was paid for. Especially on a semi-high traffic site like that one.

                                          It's called falt fee advertising. They have been paid, and my name isn't on the check. Who do you think signed it? fucking idiot.
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                                          • Barefootsies
                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                            • Feb 2005
                                            • 42635

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by xclusive
                                            We're all fucked now they have all our content and Magic join links
                                            Should You Email Your Members?

                                            Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                            Enough Said.

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                                            • bashbug
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2005
                                              • 929

                                              #72
                                              Who cares Paul will be dead in another year or so, whats he like 192 now?

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                                              • tranza
                                                ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 57559

                                                #73
                                                I wonder if your business isn't slow because of all the bad decisions you made, like this one just now.

                                                Seriously, you seem to make 1 bad decision after another. You just lost all my respect and traffic because of your post.

                                                I'm just a newbie.

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                                                • tony299
                                                  lurker
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 57021

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                  GFY needs to put the crackpipe down in regards to advertisers getting sued. It's never going to happen.

                                                  Advertisers play ZERO role in what gets posted to the infringing website. They MIGHT be helping them to stay open, but that is virtually impossible to prove since there could be other sources of income for the site or even just operating at a loss until buyout.

                                                  Contributory infringement would actually be for the tube site itself since the direct infringer would be the surfer who uploaded it.
                                                  That's what Fred Goldman is doing, Bt's were giving away the OJ book he has the legal rights to. His lawyer we cant stop them from giving it away but they can do it from the poor house. They win it sets precedent the house of cards will fall.

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                                                  • Kimmykim
                                                    bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                    • 16015

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by tranza
                                                    I wonder if your business isn't slow because of all the bad decisions you made, like this one just now.

                                                    Seriously, you seem to make 1 bad decision after another. You just lost all my respect and traffic because of your post.

                                                    Unfortunately for you Paul, there is more than a grain of truth in this comment. You've alienated people for years, and what it seems to boil down to is that your arrogant defense of how great your business was run doesn't seem to hold water, if you're resorting to this sort of thing.

                                                    Don't get me wrong, I'm all about making money, I simply don't think that you're going to realize the income or profit from this arrangement that you are betting on seeing.

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                                                    • stickyfingerz
                                                      Doin fine
                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                      • 24984

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                      That's what Fred Goldman is doing, Bt's were giving away the OJ book he has the legal rights to. His lawyer we cant stop them from giving it away but they can do it from the poor house. They win it sets precedent the house of cards will fall.
                                                      Ya Fred Goldman will stop em. Seriously so if you stop torrents or tubes what next? Ever hear of FIOS ? Next will be a group of people sharing files via msn messenger or yahoo. Person to person a few hours if that to send a full dvd once fiber becomes the standard. Enough with the naive and wasted effort of trying to stop this shit post theft. THE ONLY WAY to stop piracy is to keep the content from being stolen in the first place. This means industry wide changes. This means the content we give out must be rented not owned by the member. People with the big money need to unite together to come up with a solution. Newsgroups got stopped right? lol

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                                                      • tony299
                                                        lurker
                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 57021

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                        Ya Fred Goldman will stop em. Seriously so if you stop torrents or tubes what next? Ever hear of FIOS ? Next will be a group of people sharing files via msn messenger or yahoo. Person to person a few hours if that to send a full dvd once fiber becomes the standard. Enough with the naive and wasted effort of trying to stop this shit post theft. THE ONLY WAY to stop piracy is to keep the content from being stolen in the first place. This means industry wide changes. This means the content we give out must be rented not owned by the member. People with the big money need to unite together to come up with a solution. Newsgroups got stopped right? lol
                                                        newsgroups dont depend on ads.

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                                                        • signupdamnit
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                          • 6697

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                          Well one way or another nobody promotes Paul program so he have nothing to lose.
                                                          The reason I never promoted him is because I often saw him posting things that seemed to show that he did not respect his affiliates.

                                                          You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                          • Mikey
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 665

                                                            #79
                                                            so basically its is everyone else's fault that drove him to this point.

                                                            blame society.

                                                            if only we all bought more content or send more traffic to his site, well boo-fucking-hoo.

                                                            did he ever think that if he didn't ostracize people in his posts more people would have?

                                                            its his decision though. showing respect to him because he came forward and admitted what he is doing is bullshit though.

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                                                            • eMonk
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                              • 2310

                                                              #80
                                                              it looks like all of these tube sites are generating a lot of freeloaders. i can't see them making much money or the sponsers that support them. Sponsers seeing a big increase in their bandwidth bill & less sales would be no surprise - burn baby burn

                                                              Comment

                                                              • theking
                                                                Nice Kitty
                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                • 21053

                                                                #81
                                                                Be advised that if your hurt his feelings he may just stop honoring you with the spam he posts...virtually daily.
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                                                                • will76
                                                                  Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 18037

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Johny Traffic
                                                                  why on earth would anyone not see this as a step forward? Wouldn't everyone want them to list content given to them by sponsors and not stolen?

                                                                  Regardless of the length of videos they show, which has NOTHING to to with it, this is a new affiliate for PM and if they stopped all together using stolen content and worked with sponsors to use content provided than this is a step forward isn't it?
                                                                  If anyone thinks youtube sites are not here to stay then you are in for a rough few years. They are here to stay and I see this as a possitive step forward.
                                                                  not going to happen.

                                                                  1. you are trusting theives. bad move, you going to get fucked.
                                                                  2. If the illegal tube site went to all sponsor approved content it would be a site full of short videos. Then they would lose market share to other illegal tube sites that show full length videos. The length of the video does matter. You not going to find many sponsors if any who are going to approve the use of their videos that are more than a couple minutes long.
                                                                  3. Shap (Twistys) already tried to work with redtube and they screwed him.
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                                                                  • Johny Traffic
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                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                    • 5461

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by will76
                                                                    not going to happen.

                                                                    1. you are trusting theives. bad move, you going to get fucked.
                                                                    2. If the illegal tube site went to all sponsor approved content it would be a site full of short videos. Then they would lose market share to other illegal tube sites that show full length videos. The length of the video does matter. You not going to find many sponsors if any who are going to approve the use of their videos that are more than a couple minutes long.
                                                                    3. Shap (Twistys) already tried to work with redtube and they screwed him.
                                                                    1. Yes I agree, which is why I wouldnt deal with them

                                                                    2. Things are changing, if they are willing to pay for the b/w then there is no reason why full length movies isnt a legitimate marketing tool. Those webmasters who think they are competing with you tube sites are dead in the water this year. you tubes are not going anywhere. The argument about the length of videos is outdated and wrong. It is the same argument as 3 years ago saying tgp's give away to much content

                                                                    3. See 1)


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                                                                    • tony299
                                                                      lurker
                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 57021

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Johny Traffic
                                                                      1. Yes I agree, which is why I wouldnt deal with them

                                                                      2. Things are changing, if they are willing to pay for the b/w then there is no reason why full length movies isnt a legitimate marketing tool. Those webmasters who think they are competing with you tube sites are dead in the water this year. you tubes are not going anywhere. The argument about the length of videos is outdated and wrong. It is the same argument as 3 years ago saying tgp's give away to much content

                                                                      3. See 1)
                                                                      A full length scene will never be a good marketing tool. Once the load is blown,buying a membership become not necessary.This is porn not cookies we are selling.

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                                                                      • GAMEFINEST
                                                                        Make STACK$
                                                                        • Nov 2006
                                                                        • 14478

                                                                        #85
                                                                        hmmmmmmmmmm
                                                                        Compound interest.

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                                                                        • FreeOnes
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 3406

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Paul Markham is one of the very few sponsors we don't promote...

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                                                                          • spooky181
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                            • 2951

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by FreeOnes
                                                                            Paul Markham is one of the very few sponsors we don't promote...
                                                                            I'm in the same boat as Paul....

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                                                                            • will76
                                                                              Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 18037

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Johny Traffic
                                                                              1. Yes I agree, which is why I wouldnt deal with them

                                                                              2. Things are changing, if they are willing to pay for the b/w then there is no reason why full length movies isnt a legitimate marketing tool. Those webmasters who think they are competing with you tube sites are dead in the water this year. you tubes are not going anywhere. The argument about the length of videos is outdated and wrong. It is the same argument as 3 years ago saying tgp's give away to much content

                                                                              3. See 1)
                                                                              So you are saying that a tube site with hour long videos is going to be just as popular as one with 2 min videos?

                                                                              Or are you saying that sponsors giving away full length video clips is not going to hurt sales to their sites but instead help them get more sales ? (picture and video membership sites not cam,dating, etc..)

                                                                              I dont think it is the same arguement, with tgps / mgps people were worried about giving away too much, with full length videos you are not giving away " too much" you are giving it all away.
                                                                              Last edited by will76; 02-19-2008, 02:18 PM.
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                                                                              • eMonk
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                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                • 2310

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by will76
                                                                                I dont think it is the same arguement, with tgps / mgps people were worried about giving away too much, with full length videos you are not giving away " too much" you are giving it all away.

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                                                                                • V_RocKs
                                                                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                  • 32449

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                  Thanks Will. With Webstream going down we had few options. Maybe long term it will hurt, but our problems are short term ones today. My stand on Pirates and Acacia shows my ethics.

                                                                                  Anyone who wants to put their money where their mouth is and buy some content or send some traffic can flame us or even change our way of thinking. Those who choose not to buy or send traffic are part of the reason we had no options.

                                                                                  Yes this is my last word on this.
                                                                                  OK, Hold on one fucking minute.

                                                                                  If a newb came in here saying her was going to work with a Tube site because no one is sending his TGP traffic and he just can't make it we would flame the idiot...

                                                                                  Why is it different for Paul?

                                                                                  You are a tool! You are basically saying we should do deals with you out of the goodness of our hearts? WTF? That isn't how business works, bro!

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                                                                                  • Kenny B!
                                                                                    Confirmed Abuser
                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                    • 5718

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Great reply Paul, I have never promoted your sites or bought content from you, and now there's absolutely no chance I ever will.

                                                                                    Keep up the good work!
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                                                                                    • Sausage
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                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 3012

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Magic join links, mysterious make believe surfers writing letters, and now a big fuck you to affiliates and content customers ....

                                                                                      It just keeps getting better.
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                                                                                      • spooky181
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                        • 2951

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by will76
                                                                                        So you are saying that a tube site with hour long videos is going to be just as popular as one with 2 min videos?

                                                                                        Or are you saying that sponsors giving away full length video clips is not going to hurt sales to their sites but instead help them get more sales ? (picture and video membership sites not cam,dating, etc..)

                                                                                        I dont think it is the same arguement, with tgps / mgps people were worried about giving away too much, with full length videos you are not giving away " too much" you are giving it all away.
                                                                                        Correct...before tgp's came along our conversions were great. We learnt to adapt/accept them and the drop in conversions, but the upside was we could generate a truckload more traffic and still make the $$. Now with tube sites just giving absolutely everything away, and if as Paul has done we all decide to join them our conversions will be massively less than tgp's.

                                                                                        The only possible way this can work for everyone is if all tube sites as a group institute a 1-2 minute long maximum rule for the vids. Then we could all work with them as Paul is doing. But for now they are not and Paul is being a complete dick....

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                                                                                        • Nookster
                                                                                          Confirmed IT Professional
                                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                                          • 3744

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by pornask
                                                                                          It looks more like redtube missed that - they were supposed to include their aff code there, but forgot. If Paul bought the spot, it would be just linked directly to the .com domain.
                                                                                          Good point, but then again they could have linked it like that to hide the usage.

                                                                                          But bottom line, if he didn't really buy the spot...he's still letting them send traffic.
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                                                                                          • SpeakEasy
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                            • 2681

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Paul the reason you are doing this as you admit is because you are a failure. One of the reasons for that is that you are like a village idiot when you post and your work is only ok at best while you act like you are the best. Well in the end you tried but failed and now are forced to be a scum supporter of stolen content sites...LOL Good Luck with that dude..
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                                                                                            • Tjeezers
                                                                                              Webmaster
                                                                                              • Mar 2007
                                                                                              • 16602

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Paul says here something funny
                                                                                              http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=13790643&postcount=61
                                                                                              This on the issue that webcams.com runs a tubesite

                                                                                              Seems he is more sneaky then i thought.

                                                                                              Paul, this is how you do business?
                                                                                              You are a JOKE!!!!!

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                                                                                              • beemk
                                                                                                CLICK HERE
                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                • 20829

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                Very sad I had alot of respect for him.
                                                                                                did you ever think that if you spent all the time you spend crying and worrying about other peoples business on doing something productive you wouldn't be so unsuccessful? you're probably going to get offended, but if you listen to my advice and try it sometime you will make a lot more money.
                                                                                                I host with Vacares

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                                                                                                • eMonk
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                  • 2310

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Sex2Have
                                                                                                  Paul says here something funny
                                                                                                  http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=13790643&postcount=61
                                                                                                  This on the issue that webcams.com runs a tubesite

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                                                                                                  • tony299
                                                                                                    lurker
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 57021

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by beemk
                                                                                                    did you ever think that if you spent all the time you spend crying and worrying about other peoples business on doing something productive you wouldn't be so unsuccessful? you're probably going to get offended, but if you listen to my advice and try it sometime you will make a lot more money.
                                                                                                    What are you talking about, what do you know about what I make and what I dont make?
                                                                                                    Also sorry unless you work in cave others actions affect your business.
                                                                                                    What do you think caused the loss of paypal, amex and down to a 1% cb ratio. People doing whatever the fuck they wanted and no one feeling it was there place to bring it up. Well all those things affected all our businesses not just theirs.

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                                                                                                    • tabasco
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                                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                                      • 2624

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      "There is no other way to see a thing except to look at it" - fatfoo

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