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Pipecrew · 10-06-2002, 12:52 PM

Ok this statement is directed to Paysite owners who have exclusive content (not purchased from someone but shot yourself)........ Why do you sell your content? lately I have been seeing Paysites with pretty good content and then all of a sudden they decide to sell it off to people and what else are those people to do? they make the identical paysite you did, even sometimes free archives with your content...... Doesnt it hurt you more in the long run?

I can signup at your paysite for 29.95 a month or go get all your content for cheaper or free at deluxepass

Rochard · 10-06-2002, 01:00 PM

That sounds like a great idea. Sign up for one of my websites and steal my content. Once we find you - and we will find you - Our attorney will give you a call.

Just last week we filed a $107 million lawsuit on some jackass in Fresno who thought it was okay to sell Tawnee Stone images via CD. Opps - Big mistake there.

gothweb · 10-06-2002, 01:00 PM

Shooting your own content costs a lot of money, compared with other ways of running paysites. It can be hard to make ends meet on a small paysite, if you have the expense of making your own content.

I began to sell my content because I am not an expert at promoting my websites. What I have to offer are my photos, and I would like to be paid for people seeing them. If I can't get enough people to my paysites (I can't) then I can be paid for the photos more directly.

UnseenWorld · 10-06-2002, 10:11 PM

How exclusive can it be, and for how long? You shoot content for your site. Your members download it. It starts appearing in the newsgroups and being traded in photo-swapping chats. The value of exclusivity fades over time.

Rictor · 10-06-2002, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by RocHard
That sounds like a great idea. Sign up for one of my websites and steal my content. Once we find you - and we will find you - Our attorney will give you a call.

Just last week we filed a $107 million lawsuit on some jackass in Fresno who thought it was okay to sell Tawnee Stone images via CD. Opps - Big mistake there.

I think you missed the point of his post by about 100 feet.

Paul Markham · 10-06-2002, 11:05 PM

Exclusivity is a sales ploy. Does it bring more people in and keep them, no one knows for sure.

Exclusive crap is still crap. Do you really think the surfer is going to jerk off to it becasue it's exclusive or because it turns him on?

For a set to be really exclusive the setting has to be different. And that does not mean just changing the bed spread or models underwear.

Then it has to shot properly, the only way to get the prices some offer for exclusive is to shoot 6-8 sets in a day. This cannot be done properly, unless you think a set is 30 pics.

We shoot exclusive sets, the buyers get girls that are tired and bored, we shoot 200+ pics in a set all different. Plus at a level that few others can match.

Do all that for $150-200 a set? WHY? Not in need of the money, our sets sell.

And if that is all exclusive is worth to a site, it's not that important. They can put it up on as many sites as they wish, as many times as you wish, give it to affiliates, resell it, use the images on the net any way you wish, Lease Galleries, TGPs, AVSs. If all this is only worth $200, then it's not that important.

To pay for an exclusive set that costs $400 you have to convert and keep how many members across how many sites?

Exclusive quality is good and will convert & retain members. Exclusive second rate is still second rate and reflects on your sites.

IMHO

UnseenWorld · 10-06-2002, 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb
Shooting your own content costs a lot of money, compared with other ways of running paysites. It can be hard to make ends meet on a small paysite, if you have the expense of making your own content.

I began to sell my content because I am not an expert at promoting my websites. What I have to offer are my photos, and I would like to be paid for people seeing them. If I can't get enough people to my paysites (I can't) then I can be paid for the photos more directly.

Shooting your own content isn't THAT expensive: $150 for the model for a shoot that results in 300 photos. That's $.50 a photo. If you need to spend $150 on a location, that makes it $1 a photo, which is what I sell my nonexclusive content for. Of course, you have to have a camera and lighting and know how to use it, which I think is prohibitive for many webmasters. For many of the rest, there's a wife or girlfriend who'd flip out if they produced their own content.

Paul Markham · 10-06-2002, 11:12 PM

Sorry Pipecrew. ranted on and did not reply to your question.

Why do they shoot it themselves then go and sell it, therefore losing the exclusive label?

They need the money.

Because the site is not doing as well as they thought it would. They tried to cut corners in the belief that any clown with a $400 digital camera and a naked bird is a pornogapher. Unfortunately their traffic/members do not agree.

pr0 · 10-06-2002, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by RocHard
Just last week we filed a $107 million lawsuit on some jackass in Fresno who thought it was okay to sell Tawnee Stone images via CD. Opps - Big mistake there.

Go get em

UnseenWorld · 10-06-2002, 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by charly
Sorry Pipecrew. ranted on and did not reply to your question.

Why do they shoot it themselves then go and sell it, therefore losing the exclusive label?

They need the money.

Because the site is not doing as well as they thought it would. They tried to cut corners in the belief that any clown with a $400 digital camera and a naked bird is a pornogapher. Unfortunately their traffic/members do not agree.

This much is true.

XXXPaysiteDesign · 10-06-2002, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld
For many of the rest, there's a wife or girlfriend who'd flip out if they produced their own content.

Uhh huh.

Paul Markham · 10-06-2002, 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

For many of the rest, there's a wife or girlfriend who'd flip out if they produced their own content.

Not my problem, neither of them mind me shooting naked girls. So long as I bring a few home afterwards

steffie · 10-07-2002, 12:05 AM

I like making pictures of naked girls

I like making pictures of naked guys

I put them into my members area first and than sell them 6 month later, mainly for amateur gallery guys or guys who just starting off.

Because I am not a big time photographer like some of the guys on this board here. (I love your alls pictures, dude they rock) I guess my pictures are called fill-ins.

You know the stuff you update your site with when you run out of money or just want some real amateur stuff.

We decided to sell our stuff after we found some have put them on galleries, since we do mostly exhibitionism and outdoor sex stuff. Public Blowjobs etc.

We also been finding our pictures in other members areas and we actually found one of our Videos on a Yahoo Group where a guy was selling them.

So I might as well sell them bulk!

10-06-2002, 12:52 PM	#1
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Exclusive Content Questions Ok this statement is directed to Paysite owners who have exclusive content (not purchased from someone but shot yourself)........ Why do you sell your content? lately I have been seeing Paysites with pretty good content and then all of a sudden they decide to sell it off to people and what else are those people to do? they make the identical paysite you did, even sometimes free archives with your content...... Doesnt it hurt you more in the long run? I can signup at your paysite for 29.95 a month or go get all your content for cheaper or free at deluxepass

10-06-2002, 01:00 PM	#2
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,048	That sounds like a great idea. Sign up for one of my websites and steal my content. Once we find you - and we will find you - Our attorney will give you a call. Just last week we filed a $107 million lawsuit on some jackass in Fresno who thought it was okay to sell Tawnee Stone images via CD. Opps - Big mistake there. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

10-06-2002, 01:00 PM	#3
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Shooting your own content costs a lot of money, compared with other ways of running paysites. It can be hard to make ends meet on a small paysite, if you have the expense of making your own content. I began to sell my content because I am not an expert at promoting my websites. What I have to offer are my photos, and I would like to be paid for people seeing them. If I can't get enough people to my paysites (I can't) then I can be paid for the photos more directly. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best. Last edited by gothweb; 10-06-2002 at 01:02 PM..

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UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	How exclusive can it be, and for how long? You shoot content for your site. Your members download it. It starts appearing in the newsgroups and being traded in photo-swapping chats. The value of exclusivity fades over time. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

10-06-2002, 11:05 PM	#6
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Exclusivity is a sales ploy. Does it bring more people in and keep them, no one knows for sure. Exclusive crap is still crap. Do you really think the surfer is going to jerk off to it becasue it's exclusive or because it turns him on? For a set to be really exclusive the setting has to be different. And that does not mean just changing the bed spread or models underwear. Then it has to shot properly, the only way to get the prices some offer for exclusive is to shoot 6-8 sets in a day. This cannot be done properly, unless you think a set is 30 pics. We shoot exclusive sets, the buyers get girls that are tired and bored, we shoot 200+ pics in a set all different. Plus at a level that few others can match. Do all that for $150-200 a set? WHY? Not in need of the money, our sets sell. And if that is all exclusive is worth to a site, it's not that important. They can put it up on as many sites as they wish, as many times as you wish, give it to affiliates, resell it, use the images on the net any way you wish, Lease Galleries, TGPs, AVSs. If all this is only worth $200, then it's not that important. To pay for an exclusive set that costs $400 you have to convert and keep how many members across how many sites? Exclusive quality is good and will convert & retain members. Exclusive second rate is still second rate and reflects on your sites. IMHO __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

10-06-2002, 11:12 PM	#8
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Sorry Pipecrew. ranted on and did not reply to your question. Why do they shoot it themselves then go and sell it, therefore losing the exclusive label? They need the money. Because the site is not doing as well as they thought it would. They tried to cut corners in the belief that any clown with a $400 digital camera and a naked bird is a pornogapher. Unfortunately their traffic/members do not agree. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

10-07-2002, 12:05 AM	#13
steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	I like making pictures of naked girls I like making pictures of naked guys I put them into my members area first and than sell them 6 month later, mainly for amateur gallery guys or guys who just starting off. Because I am not a big time photographer like some of the guys on this board here. (I love your alls pictures, dude they rock) I guess my pictures are called fill-ins. You know the stuff you update your site with when you run out of money or just want some real amateur stuff. We decided to sell our stuff after we found some have put them on galleries, since we do mostly exhibitionism and outdoor sex stuff. Public Blowjobs etc. We also been finding our pictures in other members areas and we actually found one of our Videos on a Yahoo Group where a guy was selling them. So I might as well sell them bulk! __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm