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woj 02-16-2008 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 13793387)
many would do it for free just for the title of winner, bragging rights, and instant credibility to boost their consulting business.

real seos don't need "consulting business", they just make $$$ themselves... :2 cents:

Vick! 02-17-2008 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KRosh (Post 13792499)
I didn't read through all 104 posts sorry -

Inbound links are the most important factor, optimized content follows

It's important to optimize your web page contents for your keywords. By optimizing your web page contents for your keywords, you tell search engines that your pages are relevant to these keywords.

Your web pages will get top rankings for these keywords if there is no competition. Unfortunately, there's a lot of competition and many pages are optimized for the same keywords as you have chosen.

That's where inbound links come to play. If more than one web page is optimized for the same keyword,(Obviously) then the web page with the best inbound links will get the best rankings.
:2 cents:

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 13793246)
Google ranks sites higher that have more ORGANIC imbound links. Why? Because Google figures that a site with lots of inbound links is important, popular, and relivant.

There is more to it than just this, but the algorythm that drives Google is a carefully guarded secret. Anyone who claims to know it or how it works is full of it.

As your site gets popular, and more people link to you, Google will notice and rank you higher.

Companies that create a bunch of bogus domains to link to you are not unkown to google. If the links are from BS places, or the context of the links is false, Google will push you to the very bottom of the list.

For more check out this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank


m

Quoted for someone who might have missed reading. True information, nicely put. :thumbsup

baddog 02-17-2008 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 13792919)
We should have a competition and see who can rank higher for a keyword within a few weeks.


Already been done.

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Originally Posted by Vick! (Post 13793612)
Quoted for someone who might have missed reading. True information, nicely put. :thumbsup

You have tunnel vision if you believe that.

Vick! 02-17-2008 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13793720)
You have tunnel vision if you believe that.

no worries, I'd stick with it as long its helping me to get ranked and make money. If I fail, I'd consider revising my knowledge and vision ;)

Vick! 02-17-2008 02:36 AM

PS. by the way .. I didn't said above mentioned factors are the only ones to affect ranking, but wasn't that information helpful?

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-17-2008 03:58 AM

Got to love all the "seo experts" giving out advice in this thread.

If you are so good, why are you broke?

Jdoughs 02-17-2008 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet (Post 13793891)
Got to love all the "seo experts" giving out advice in this thread.

If you are so good, why are you broke?

Whose broke in this thread?

I mean other then yourself Jet. You post in 25 Contest threads a day and you want us to beleive you make a good living at your online business. Do we need to bump some threads to show how sorry your broke ass is?

Whats funny Jet, is that there is people in this room who get as many sales as you make posts in a day.

baddog 02-17-2008 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 13794174)
Whose broke in this thread?

I mean other then yourself Jet.

:thumbsup

Mark_E4A 02-17-2008 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet (Post 13793891)
Got to love all the "seo experts" giving out advice in this thread.

If you are so good, why are you broke?

Broke? I am making 500 a month and raising 3 kids in a bachelor apt, and you call that broke? Id say my one keyword I hit is doing damn good.

Vick! 02-17-2008 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 13794174)
Whose broke in this thread?

I mean other then yourself Jet. You post in 25 Contest threads a day and you want us to beleive you make a good living at your online business. Do we need to bump some threads to show how sorry your broke ass is?

:thumbsup

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 13794174)
Whats funny Jet, is that there is people in this room who get as many sales as you make posts in a day.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-17-2008 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 13794174)
Whose broke in this thread?

I mean other then yourself Jet. You post in 25 Contest threads a day and you want us to beleive you make a good living at your online business. Do we need to bump some threads to show how sorry your broke ass is?

Whats funny Jet, is that there is people in this room who get as many sales as you make posts in a day.

I never claimed to be a baller, but then again, you don't see me talking out of my ass about search engine optimization, do you?

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-17-2008 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 13794174)
Whats funny Jet, is that there is people in this room who get as many sales as you make posts in a day.

Yes sure :1orglaugh

Let me guess, one of these people is you, right?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

polish_aristocrat 02-17-2008 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13793720)
Already been done.

when? where? link?

clickhappy 02-17-2008 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13793720)
Already been done.

really? where? Id like to see the results.

baddog 02-17-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 13794549)
when? where? link?

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Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 13794712)
really? where? Id like to see the results.

It was done by a mainstream board . . . so sorry, you will have to use Google if you want to learn more.

Big John 02-17-2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13795571)
It was done by a mainstream board . . . so sorry, you will have to use Google if you want to learn more.

Several times over a few boards with varying degrees of success etc Amazing how many haven't heard of it in this thread or maybe not so?

Really just wanted to comment on the WG post. Always amazes me how many people hang on and believe every word from Google employees. Why on earth do people believe Matt does tell the truth and even quote him as 'proof' of something do you think?

Big John 02-17-2008 06:43 PM

Hmmm...the phrase used still generates 52k of results :p

baddog 02-17-2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Big John (Post 13796120)
Several times over a few boards with varying degrees of success etc Amazing how many haven't heard of it in this thread or maybe not so?

Really just wanted to comment on the WG post. Always amazes me how many people hang on and believe every word from Google employees. Why on earth do people believe Matt does tell the truth and even quote him as 'proof' of something do you think?

We hired a writer to help build a knowledge base, and instructed him to cite references . . . as long as it was not Matt.

Lamis 02-17-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 13793203)
sure, what ever you say :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13793216)
"SEO" is now a genre of comedy.


Great arguments...

When I update my blogs, they go to the top in Google, and it says "15 minutes ago"... Telling the surfer that this specific article they found was added 15 minutes ago to the blog...

IF I never update, the article never gets to the top and it would never say that it was updated with that specific article 15 minutes ago.

Anything to say or you will keep bashing with no arguments? :pimp

Updates DEFINITELY get you to the top and I just explained you why they do.

Pleasurepays 02-17-2008 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 13796510)
Great arguments...

When I update my blogs, they go to the top in Google, and it says "15 minutes ago"... Telling the surfer that this specific article they found was added 15 minutes ago to the blog...

IF I never update, the article never gets to the top and it would never say that it was updated with that specific article 15 minutes ago.

Anything to say or you will keep bashing with no arguments? :pimp

Updates DEFINITELY get you to the top and I just explained you why they do.

you didn't explain anything. you made an unsubstantiated and nonsensical claim. and like all other claims here, they are taken out of context of the big picture that takes ALL factors into consideration.

"updates get you to the top" - for what? for your own domain name as a phrase? for what exactly? can you rank #1 for "live cams" just by updating a site every 5 minutes with those keywords? of course not.

getting crawled more frequently due to frequent updates has nothing to do with ranking for terms you target... neither does an update getting indexed in 15 minutes.

it certainly doesn't make you rank higher for a specific phrase. if that was the case, everyone would be focused on generating text/updates and updating every 5 minutes... but they aren't... are they? people aren't doing that because it doesn't matter.

d-null 02-17-2008 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 13796510)
Great arguments...

When I update my blogs, they go to the top in Google, and it says "15 minutes ago"... Telling the surfer that this specific article they found was added 15 minutes ago to the blog...

IF I never update, the article never gets to the top and it would never say that it was updated with that specific article 15 minutes ago.

Anything to say or you will keep bashing with no arguments? :pimp

Updates DEFINITELY get you to the top and I just explained you why they do.

google's blog search means nothing if that is what you are referring to

Lamis 02-18-2008 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13796570)
you didn't explain anything. you made an unsubstantiated and nonsensical claim. and like all other claims here, they are taken out of context of the big picture that takes ALL factors into consideration.

"updates get you to the top" - for what? for your own domain name as a phrase? for what exactly? can you rank #1 for "live cams" just by updating a site every 5 minutes with those keywords? of course not.

If you think you can get on the top with terms like "Pussy" or "Sex" then we must finish the discussion right here..

That said, yes, I get on the top when I update my blog, believe it or not.

And of course, that it was already obvious, nobody is talking about "sex" or "pussy" here, that would be very stupid.

You don't seem to have any solid arguments here. You are taking things out of context and shooting nosense statements. Classic from someone who has no clue what he's talking about.

Pleasurepays 02-18-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 13799065)
If you think you can get on the top with terms like "Pussy" or "Sex" then we must finish the discussion right here..

That said, yes, I get on the top when I update my blog, believe it or not.

And of course, that it was already obvious, nobody is talking about "sex" or "pussy" here, that would be very stupid.

You don't seem to have any solid arguments here. You are taking things out of context and shooting nosense statements. Classic from someone who has no clue what he's talking about.

uhm.. yeah. you simply update your blog and "get on the top"


its not clear what that means... but you obviously own google.

you've unlocked THE secret


ok.

i apologize

a reminder of why seo threads are pointless. those who know aren't going to share specifics and show all their sites/networks for others to deconstruct and analyze and those who don't know end up being the ones giving advice.

Lamis 02-18-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13799192)
uhm.. yeah. you simply update your blog and "get on the top"


its not clear what that means... but you obviously own google.

you've unlocked THE secret


ok.

i apologize

a reminder of why seo threads are pointless. those who know aren't going to share specifics and show all their sites/networks for others to deconstruct and analyze and those who don't know end up being the ones giving advice.



hmm yeah.. you get on top of google with terms like "Pussy" and "Sex" by putting a few links in your signature at GFY.... :winkwink:

Ok.. You are a genious. Congratulations.

Thanks for the laugh Sir. :1orglaugh

Pleasurepays 02-18-2008 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 13799716)
hmm yeah.. you get on top of google with terms like "Pussy" and "Sex" by putting a few links in your signature at GFY.... :winkwink:

Ok.. You are a genious. Congratulations.

Thanks for the laugh Sir. :1orglaugh

you're right. how silly of me to start building a network of sites that collectively builds 1000's of backlinks day in and day out, get talked about on radio shows, get blogged about, get reported as news and even are the topic of discussion of places like the United Nations... without me doing a fucking thing.

i must be retarded.

but not you... you own a few blogs and think you will make money by updating them 5 times a day with no real concept of how search engines work and rank sites and how you to compete and rank for competitive phrases. enjoy your default 300 hits a day per site. keep telling yourself its the hard work and skill.... hopefully you won't be too crushed when you finally realize that small amounts of traffic are easy. its real traffic thats hard.


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