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WiredGuy 02-15-2008 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13789375)
That said, we all have whatever works. For the SEO experts, I always ask them to show me a long list of their examples to back up their claims.

Some of the best ways to get seo's to stop doing something is by misinformation. Like matt cutts does :)
WG

aico 02-15-2008 09:05 PM

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hungry hungry hippy 02-15-2008 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13789520)
You might want to back up your claims of SEO greatness....

and how would i do this? let me guess... give you my sites, or my keywords?

no thanks. i keep my strategies to myself :)

itto 02-15-2008 09:06 PM

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baddog 02-15-2008 09:07 PM

If I were to give credit to just one thing I would say age, followed by site depth. . . . but it is never just one thing.

Theo 02-15-2008 09:14 PM

"Alot of Seo’s will show you what their ”clients” results are or were. Stop talking to these guys, you want to see results they have for thier stuff. What they did on someone elses stuff with someone elses resources has nothing to do with your site and what you have, or with what they have to bring to the table. Unless that client is offering you their resources, its completely irrelevant. "

Interesting part of the article, but it's not that simple especially in the adult sector. Assuming you find a truly good seo that will decide to take over your site/s. The only reason he would do it is:

You will pay him more than he would have earned alone. Consider now what it takes for this to happen.

a) you can provide resources he doesn't have access to, therefore he couldn't get such results on his own anyhow

b) You run some decent affiliate program and you are in position to pay him more than he would make as an affiliate.


Feel free to add your own

clickhappy 02-15-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13789527)
Some of the best ways to get seo's to stop doing something is by misinformation. Like matt cutts does :)
WG

Is that a joke, or are you serious?
Why do you think Matt Cutts gives out fake info?

baddog 02-15-2008 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 13789568)
Is that a joke, or are you serious?
Why do you think Matt Cutts gives out fake info?

Because Google does not approve of SEO. They want everything to be organic. SEO's mess that up for them.

WiredGuy 02-15-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 13789568)
Is that a joke, or are you serious?
Why do you think Matt Cutts gives out fake info?

Because he's in a position where the masses will believe whatever he says. Consider who he works for. His interests are to his employer, not to the general public.
WG

clickhappy 02-15-2008 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13789602)
Because Google does not approve of SEO. They want everything to be organic. SEO's mess that up for them.

That makes sense, but then why does Google have such a huge webmasters area loaded with tools?
They dont have to have all that.

They could just say "fuck off" to webmasters and figure it out yourself. Why spend millions of dollars and time creating fake tools to fake out seo people?

Mark_E4A 02-15-2008 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 13789635)
That makes sense, but then why does Google have such a huge webmasters area loaded with tools?
They dont have to have all that.

They could just say "fuck off" to webmasters and figure it out yourself. Why spend millions of dollars and time creating fake tools to fake out seo people?

I would think they give you these tools so you will use them and give them a better idea what you have?

they run a huge huge list and you would have to think they would want their searches to be as relevant as can be, with these tools, that might make it easier for them?

they have tools yes, but they dont post their algo and what to do to get ranked, thats up to you to figure out.

i could be completely wrong here, but... who knows but them...

Rep 02-15-2008 09:58 PM

my god...

Mark_E4A 02-15-2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rep (Post 13789647)
my god...

yes? can i help you?

baddog 02-15-2008 10:26 PM

This is really a stupid question without knowing the site, what it is promoting, how many others are promoting it, etc, etc.

If you are the first promoting a product that no one else is, backlinks and content mean jack.

Iron Fist 02-16-2008 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 13789385)
Thanks
Do you know if Wikipedia ranks high for EVERYTHING because they have a massive amount of content? or because of inbound links? or a combo of both?
I always wondered why wikipedia ranks at the top or almost the top for almost everything.

Because their too god damned big and the content is dynamic and their interlinked in ways I can't even imagine. If i had a few million pages all linking to my index page in one way or another, i'm sure i'd be at the top of pretty much everything too.

baddog 02-16-2008 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 13790063)
Because their too god damned big and the content is dynamic and their interlinked in ways I can't even imagine. If i had a few million pages all linking to my index page in one way or another, i'm sure i'd be at the top of pretty much everything too.

:thumbsup

cheekycherry 02-16-2008 03:29 AM

fucking hell...


I just read a business related thread on GFY.

e-god 02-16-2008 04:15 AM

Its all about links

Barefootsies 02-16-2008 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hungry hungry hippy (Post 13789536)
and how would i do this? let me guess... give you my sites, or my keywords?

no thanks. i keep my strategies to myself :)

Riiiight. Insert standard SEO "expert" response.

You have to love the irony.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Barefootsies 02-16-2008 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 13789635)
That makes sense, but then why does Google have such a huge webmasters area loaded with tools?
They dont have to have all that.

They could just say "fuck off" to webmasters and figure it out yourself. Why spend millions of dollars and time creating fake tools to fake out seo people?

To keep nickel and dime webmasters pushing adsense, and thinking the G is god.

:2 cents:

zeruel 02-16-2008 06:20 AM

both are important. It would always be on the person optimizing it... and the way he/she build the techniques that matters.

patryks 02-16-2008 06:21 AM

links , links and one more time links:)

Vick! 02-16-2008 07:01 AM

Well, its has always been a combination of different factors .. their weight just kept changing over the time. Every one knows search engines keep tweaking their shit from the day one.

But yeah, once factor that can dominate all others are backlinks, you can get an empty single page site ranked for literally any term if whole fucking world start linking to you (examples are ranking of adobe page, google.com and yahoo.com for totally unrelated terms "click here", "exit" etc..) . Of course its not easily possible in reality, but in case it happen .. nothing can prevent you from ranking, so what I mean is .. backlinks alone have power to dominate every other factor .. may be out-weight is better word for this? not sure.

The guy who is saying content is major factor, is also right ... but how? If you have some quality content (well informative article, useful tool, a big news, astonishing video etc) .. you will get ranked, because people love linking to such things from forums, their blogs and stuff ... so, backlinks are what getting you ranked again, but indirectly.

darksoul 02-16-2008 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vick! (Post 13791115)
Well, its has always been a combination of different factors .. their weight just kept changing over the time. Every one knows search engines keep tweaking their shit from the day one.

But yeah, once factor that can dominate all others are backlinks, you can get an empty single page site ranked for literally any term if whole fucking world start linking to you (examples are ranking of adobe page, google.com and yahoo.com for totally unrelated terms "click here", "exit" etc..) . Of course its not easily possible in reality, but in case it happen .. nothing can prevent you from ranking, so what I mean is .. backlinks alone have power to dominate every other factor .. may be out-weight is better word for this? not sure.

The guy who is saying content is major factor, is also right ... but how? If you have some quality content (well informative article, useful tool, a big news, astonishing video etc) .. you will get ranked, because people love linking to such things from forums, their blogs and stuff ... so, backlinks are what getting you ranked again, but indirectly.

nicely put

Vick! 02-16-2008 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul (Post 13791132)
nicely put

thanks :thumbsup

hungry hungry hippy 02-16-2008 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13791065)
Riiiight. Insert standard SEO "expert" response.

You have to love the irony.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

do you honestly think any successful SEO would give you their strategies on a platter? i knew adult people were lazy and unreliable, but blatantly naive? it's a standard response for a reason, think about it :2 cents:

content means nothing. you don't need it to rank, you may only need it when you get a handjob so g keeps you around. links is all it boils down to.

then again, because i don't have 50k posts on this surfer forum and won't give you my bread and butter i know nothing, right? :upsidedow

Barefootsies 02-16-2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hungry hungry hippy (Post 13791154)
do you honestly think any successful SEO would give you their strategies on a platter? i knew adult people were lazy and unreliable, but blatantly naive? it's a standard response for a reason, think about it :2 cents:

content means nothing. you don't need it to rank, you may only need it when you get a handjob so g keeps you around. links is all it boils down to.

then again, because i don't have 50k posts on this surfer forum and won't give you my bread and butter i know nothing, right? :upsidedow

I do not give a shit about your strategies. They obviously are laughable since you have no examples to back up your claims of being a SEO "expert".

I already have 1st page listings for my keywords on the sites I care about. That said, I obviously do not need your "hot tips" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh. However, it's nice you keep up with all these other SEO "experts" who can make these delusions of grandeur claims, but never back them up.

I believe Shoebitch did a show about you types a few weeks back. It was just as entertaining as your "expertise". :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

They rank right up there with the weather man. Wrong most of the time, but still manage to stay employed. Classic comedy.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Jdoughs 02-16-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13791525)
I obviously do not need your "hot tips" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh. However, it's nice you keep up with all these other SEO "experts" who can make these delusions of grandeur claims, but never back them up.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


I don't think anybody in this thread was offering you tips anyways, they were attempting to answer the posters question.

This is about the 4th time in this thread you have said nobody can back up their claims to being seo masters, (allthough nobody has claimed to be one). But it seems you are the one here whose shit dont stink, and seems to think they are the only one who has a clue, which is yet to be seen.

How about you back up your mouth, and show us some results? Or are you just here to bash everybody who offers some answers, and ask everyone else to back up with serps?

Let's see some of yours. Remember how you answered the people who didnt want to post results here, im sure thats the same answer we will get from you also.

hungry hungry hippy 02-16-2008 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13791525)
I do not give a shit about your strategies. They obviously are laughable since you have no examples to back up your claims of being a SEO "expert".

read my post again bud :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13791525)
I already have 1st page listings for my keywords on the sites I care about. That said, I obviously do not need your "hot tips" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh. However, it's nice you keep up with all these other SEO "experts" who can make these delusions of grandeur claims, but never back them up.

how about you list those keywords and sites since you make a big fuss about backing up with examples? you seem to be the only one in this thread out to prove anything in terms of being an expert or not. so put your money where your mouth is and show us. that way i can dig into your strategy, and teach you a lesson about why SEO's never give examples if they want to keep their strategies successful :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13791525)
I believe Shoebitch did a show about you types a few weeks back. It was just as entertaining as your "expertise". :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

watch out, shoe might send you a c&d for making fun of his fat ass. he's a fucking joke.

i'm eagerly waiting for your list of keywords and sites :) but i have a feeling you won't..

Jdoughs 02-16-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by hungry hungry hippy (Post 13791565)
i'm eagerly waiting for your list of keywords and sites :) but i have a feeling you won't..

Give him a few mins, may take a bit to type out all those 6 word keyterms.

Barefootsies 02-16-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by hungry hungry hippy (Post 13791565)
i'm eagerly waiting for your list of keywords and sites :)

Ah yes. Another SEO consultant classic. The ole, "show me yours, and I'll not show you mine".

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Funny. You SEO's come in. Make claims. Never can back up anything, then try and pull this trick. It's hilarious how predictable you guys are, and why most just laugh at the concept of an "SEO expert".

As I said, pure comedy.

Barefootsies 02-16-2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 13791551)
they were attempting to answer the posters question.

Same as I was sport. Now refer back to (your) post 20.

Now to your other post.

I've explained what has worked for ME. I do not do SEO. As I have stated multiple times. I also do not do link building, and haven't for years.

However many claim this is the most important. Hence the original question posed in this thread.

Furthermore, you might want to reread the thread in it's entirety ace. I posted my experiences, and then was greeted with this..

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Originally Posted by Shaze View Post
wow...not too sound like an ass but there is alot of misinformation in this post.
to which I then said feel free to post your examples.

Coming into a thread, and just telling everyone that it's full of misinformation, or wrong is not of benefit to anyone.

hungry hungry hippy 02-16-2008 11:05 AM

looks like we were right jdoughs :winkwink: talk about predictable, and hypocritical.

so much for practicing what you preach. i think the joke is on you here. the one who screams about examples refuses to give them :winkwink:

Barefootsies 02-16-2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hungry hungry hippy (Post 13791603)
ltalk about predictable, and hypocritical. ....

Classic...


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Thanks for proving my point. Yet another SEO "expert" called on the carpet, and his strategies are so top secret, HE doesn't even know them.

My sites are not top secret asshat. Anyone with a braincell can find them.

Mark_E4A 02-16-2008 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13791576)
Ah yes. Another SEO consultant classic. The ole, "show me yours, and I'll not show you mine".

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Funny. You SEO's come in. Make claims. Never can back up anything, then try and pull this trick. It's hilarious how predictable you guys are, and why most just laugh at the concept of an "SEO expert".

As I said, pure comedy.

ok dude, answer your icq and i will put my money where my mouth is

i will show you soo many fucking terms your head will spin.

i am not claiming to be an "expert" but my stats sure tell me i am doing something right.

Barefootsies 02-16-2008 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 13791614)
ok dude, answer your icq and i will put my money where my mouth is

i will show you soo many fucking terms your head will spin.

i am not claiming to be an "expert" but my stats sure tell me i am doing something right.

Fair enough hoss.
One sec.

Jdoughs 02-16-2008 11:13 AM

I have my reverse engineering hat on and anxiously awaiting you all to boil over and start posting serps!

COME ON!

hungry hungry hippy 02-16-2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13791610)
Classic...


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Thanks for proving my point. Yet another SEO "expert" called on the carpet, and his strategies are so top secret, HE doesn't even know them.

My sites are not top secret asshat. Anyone with a braincell can find them.

i don't know my own secrets? lmfao, this gets better and better. quit while you're ahead :1orglaugh

is wiredwebonline yours? i'm interested to see where it is in the ranks for your keywords. i've yet to come across it, even for that 7 word phrase you're going for, even with quotes where there are only 97k results. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

i guess when your arguments get deflated, the last ditch effort is petty name calling.. sad

Barefootsies 02-16-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hungry hungry hippy (Post 13791637)

is wiredwebonline yours?

That's as much as your lazy ass can research on my main sites?

Hilarious.

Barefootsies 02-16-2008 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 13791614)
ok dude, answer your icq and i will put my money where my mouth is

i will show you soo many fucking terms your head will spin.

i am not claiming to be an "expert" but my stats sure tell me i am doing something right.

Lots of good stuff man. You da king :thumbsup


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