some glo-bill questions - GoFuckYourself.com

quiet · 10-05-2002, 11:32 PM

i had a couple of questions about glo-bill - for those who use them:

(1) how has your experience been with them as far as support/tech issues go?

(2) 'US Presence' - what have you heard with respect to this issue for non-US paysite owners (specifically Canadians)? is there anything concrete about this issue on their site (i couldn't find anything)? or from their upper management?

(3) what form of password system(s) do they use?

(4) do they pay via wire? all i see on the signup form is check payment.

(5) do they send out emails prior to each rebill? i've seen several different answers to this one. from yes, to no, to sometimes, to 'it's an option'.

(6) scrub - for those who've used other 3rd party processors before glo-bill, how does it seem?

thanks

Bear · 10-05-2002, 11:36 PM

(1) They are really great. You can search this forum.

(2) I can't answer this yet. From the post this forum, the big3 say that you must have corp in the processor's country. But I can't see this statement under ibill newsletter.

(3) They have their own script to do it. All auto, you don't have to worry.

(4) Yes, they do, that's how I receive my money.

(5) No, they don't. But if you want, youc an set it in your admin area.

(6) Can't say much about this, becasue they are my 2nd processor.

El Demonio · 10-05-2002, 11:40 PM

They scrub a lot more than Ibill, i tried them 6 months ago and discontinued due very unsatisfactory results. rebills gets affected too.

Is better to accept the cards over the phone than bill with them.,

quiet · 10-05-2002, 11:44 PM

(1) They are really great. You can search this forum.

yes, i've already done that.

(2) I can't answer this yet. From the post this forum, the big3 say that you must have corp in the processor's country. But I can't see this statement under ibill newsletter.

this is the main thing i'm wondering about. everyone has been saying 'glo-bill' has a solution. do they at least say somwhere (themselves) that the new regs do not apply to them?

i know all about ibill lol.

(3) They have their own script to do it. All auto, you don't have to worry.

cool. does it interact with your .htpasswd file, or is it simpler than that?

thanks for the info

wonton · 10-05-2002, 11:45 PM

I beg to differ with el domino.

I use them as primary for all my sites and compared to iBill and Epoch, their scrub is great. Less declines and less chargebacks. But who knows. Maybe it depends on your site, type of traffic etc. My experience has been nothing short of perfect. Other webmasters with them have also posted a lot about their great service. Search the board.

On (2), globill themselves posted here in the last few days that foreign webmasters don't need a US corp. No special requirements.

Brown Bear · 10-05-2002, 11:49 PM

I wouldn't listen to El Demonio, he's a confirmed retard.

I can tell you that I have read plenty of posts saying good things about Glo-Bill from existing clients.

I'm also thinking about using Glo-Bill

Webby · 10-05-2002, 11:52 PM

Quiet:

Yea.. reckon Globill is a possible! And... no disrespect to Globill, but don't let *any* one credit processor handle your transactions - they (or rather, some "higher power") cannot be relied upon not to change the goal posts, so suggest you use a few processors for cards and rotate signup pages!

You, nor anyone, needs to end up losing all their recurring billing to some card processor either thru their fault or that of their "I'm-In-The-Mood-For-A-New-Set-Of-Rules" banking partners...

El Demonio · 10-05-2002, 11:53 PM

I wouldn't listen to brown bear

He's flea infested and also talented enough to suck cock and type at the same time.

I'm talking about my own experience, not about what i read elsewhere.

You are a clinic case BB

Brown Bear · 10-05-2002, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Demonio
I wouldn't listen to brown bear

He's flea infested and also talented enough to suck cock and type at the same time.

I'm talking about my own experience, not about what i read elsewhere.

You are a clinic case BB

Have you finished cutting up those Visa cards yet?

Retards really shouldn't handle scissors

El Demonio · 10-05-2002, 11:57 PM

I agree, Webby, this experience has shown us all that U.S. companies (at least) are not to be trusted.

They change the rules when they want and are deceptive enough to try blackmailing by giving you hard deadlines.

I run my biz, not any other greedy gringo.

Bear · 10-05-2002, 11:59 PM

As for their password script, yes, they touch your htpasswd file. They auto delete all the exipre users. If you have other db other than .httpasswd, you hve to modify the script in order to delete the users there as well.

Brown Bear · 10-06-2002, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Demonio
I agree, Webby, this experience has shown us all that U.S. companies (at least) are not to be trusted.

US companies are not to be trusted?

haha

Can you possibly say anymore amazingly stupid statements?

El Demonio · 10-06-2002, 12:05 AM

Oh yeah!

Ask Worldcom, Enron, and adelphia victims!

BTW: Ibill didn't pay June web900 calls due Wordlcom bankrupcy, any thoughs on this anybody?

Webby · 10-06-2002, 12:06 AM

Doubt there is any difference in US companies to others - too cynical for that! Although the public revelations of late may seen otherwise!

Basically anyone that holds your money is a problem! From the old days on the net and the 900/audiotext frauds to current day is no different - there are assholes everywhere, not just in the US!

Now.. about that security deposit from VISA

quiet · 10-06-2002, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bear
As for their password script, yes, they touch your htpasswd file. They auto delete all the exipre users. If you have other db other than .httpasswd, you hve to modify the script in order to delete the users there as well.

thanks.

any other current users of glo-bill have anything to add?

El Demonio · 10-06-2002, 12:12 AM

check this:

www.globosale.com
www.multicards.com
www.dutchbill.com
www.2000charge.com

European billers, the solution

Brown Bear · 10-06-2002, 12:14 AM

Quiet,

Did you find out any details about probilling?

quiet · 10-06-2002, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear
Quiet,

Did you find out any details about probilling?

no. the guy never emailed me back.

Brown Bear · 10-06-2002, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

no. the guy never emailed me back.

Hmmm...thats not good.

But I like their signup pages.

Check out this sites signup page, they use probilling.com:

www.jade-white.com

quiet · 10-06-2002, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear

Hmmm...thats not good.

But I like their signup pages.

Check out this sites signup page, they use probilling.com:

www.jade-white.com

popup heaven.

Brown Bear · 10-06-2002, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

popup heaven.

yeah, I should have warned you about that, but they have nice signup pages and I've found at least 20 paysites that use them.

El Demonio · 10-06-2002, 12:30 AM

"Rumor is the big 3 are scrambling to setup merchant banks in other countries."

Hey Fleabag! where did you heard that?

Shark · 10-06-2002, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

thanks.

any other current users of glo-bill have anything to add?

Quiet,

Ive been using Globill as my secondary processor for about 3 yrs, Ive never had a problem with them, techsupport via email is superb, I usually get a reply within 10 -30 mins max.

The thing I like best about them is that they listen to and care about what their webmasters want.
I have seen them add requested extra functions in time and time again for their webmasters if they think it will help us out.

Their password system works fine, it also makes a backup of your htpasswd before it alters the original each time in case of problems, Ive never seen a problem with this either.

Their webmaster interface also does everything Ive ever wanted to do plus a lot more that Ive never needed to..

If your thinking about making the move to them and still have questions about how their system works, you can get an instant preview account with them and I think you can check out the system from within the webmaster interface with this, I'ts been a while since I did the preview account thing, maybe someone else could shed further light on what is available to be seen with the preview account ?

cherrylula · 10-06-2002, 02:06 AM

That's one hell of a handle, Shark.

seven · 10-11-2002, 01:27 PM

My other window is on GloBill signup page. I see a potential problem.. they won't let me do a 3 mon rebill but max 31 days? But hey some of my members go for 3 mons and then rebill too.. duh! Also 16% starting rate is a bit higher than most other processors too. Maybe I should check probilling then?

psyko514 · 10-11-2002, 09:57 PM

- their support is great... they even answer posts in wrong sections of their message forum.
- their interface is pretty good, although it could use some improvement.
- the fact that you can only rebill one month subscriptions kinda sucks...
- yes, they take 15.95 which is higher than normal, but you'll get significantly less chargebacks which'll make up for that difference.
- good partner program and good user referral system.
- their signup pages are very boring.

i was gonna say something else, but i completely forgot... damnit.

UnseenWorld · 10-11-2002, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seven
My other window is on GloBill signup page. I see a potential problem.. they won't let me do a 3 mon rebill but max 31 days? But hey some of my members go for 3 mons and then rebill too.. duh! Also 16% starting rate is a bit higher than most other processors too. Maybe I should check probilling then?

But this is good. I would imagine that chargebacks are higher on 90 day rebills than 30 day rebills, right? And if you make a site that the 90 day guy really likes, he can always rejoin. I have 90 day guys who rebill with great regularity. I don't think the guy who commits to 90 days is the one you really need to worry about. You sold him pretty well if he went in for 90 days, and if he's lost interest, a 90 day rebill will be a big enough $ amount that he'll definitely pursue a chargeback.

jennycards · 10-12-2002, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bear
(3) They have their own script to do it. All auto, you don't have to worry.

I am just migrating from iBill to GloBill and hat to realize that (by default) GloBill does NOT check if a chosen username already exists in your .htpasswd file. So if a username is not in their database yet (because user had joined through iBill) you might end up with two identical usernames in your .htpasswd.

I am now discussing this matter with their support -- which (by the way) is 1,000% better that iBill's.

seven · 10-16-2002, 05:00 PM

Anyone else migrated to Glo-Bill from another processor? How's your experience with 'em so far? Migrating was smooth for me but not sure about the sales.. may be too soon to tell if it's better/worse..

10-05-2002, 11:32 PM	#1
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	some glo-bill questions i had a couple of questions about glo-bill - for those who use them: (1) how has your experience been with them as far as support/tech issues go? (2) 'US Presence' - what have you heard with respect to this issue for non-US paysite owners (specifically Canadians)? is there anything concrete about this issue on their site (i couldn't find anything)? or from their upper management? (3) what form of password system(s) do they use? (4) do they pay via wire? all i see on the signup form is check payment. (5) do they send out emails prior to each rebill? i've seen several different answers to this one. from yes, to no, to sometimes, to 'it's an option'. (6) scrub - for those who've used other 3rd party processors before glo-bill, how does it seem? thanks Last edited by quiet; 10-05-2002 at 11:34 PM..

10-05-2002, 11:40 PM	#3
El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	They scrub a lot more than Ibill, i tried them 6 months ago and discontinued due very unsatisfactory results. rebills gets affected too. Is better to accept the cards over the phone than bill with them., __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

10-05-2002, 11:49 PM	#6
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	I wouldn't listen to El Demonio, he's a confirmed retard. I can tell you that I have read plenty of posts saying good things about Glo-Bill from existing clients. I'm also thinking about using Glo-Bill __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

10-05-2002, 11:53 PM	#8
El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	I wouldn't listen to brown bear He's flea infested and also talented enough to suck cock and type at the same time. I'm talking about my own experience, not about what i read elsewhere. You are a clinic case BB __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

10-05-2002, 11:57 PM	#10
El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	I agree, Webby, this experience has shown us all that U.S. companies (at least) are not to be trusted. They change the rules when they want and are deceptive enough to try blackmailing by giving you hard deadlines. I run my biz, not any other greedy gringo. __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END. Last edited by El Demonio; 10-05-2002 at 11:59 PM..

10-05-2002, 11:36 PM	#2
Bear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 261	(1) They are really great. You can search this forum. (2) I can't answer this yet. From the post this forum, the big3 say that you must have corp in the processor's country. But I can't see this statement under ibill newsletter. (3) They have their own script to do it. All auto, you don't have to worry. (4) Yes, they do, that's how I receive my money. (5) No, they don't. But if you want, youc an set it in your admin area. (6) Can't say much about this, becasue they are my 2nd processor.

10-05-2002, 11:44 PM	#4
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	(1) They are really great. You can search this forum. yes, i've already done that. (2) I can't answer this yet. From the post this forum, the big3 say that you must have corp in the processor's country. But I can't see this statement under ibill newsletter. this is the main thing i'm wondering about. everyone has been saying 'glo-bill' has a solution. do they at least say somwhere (themselves) that the new regs do not apply to them? i know all about ibill lol. (3) They have their own script to do it. All auto, you don't have to worry. cool. does it interact with your .htpasswd file, or is it simpler than that? thanks for the info

10-05-2002, 11:45 PM	#5
wonton Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 802	I beg to differ with el domino. I use them as primary for all my sites and compared to iBill and Epoch, their scrub is great. Less declines and less chargebacks. But who knows. Maybe it depends on your site, type of traffic etc. My experience has been nothing short of perfect. Other webmasters with them have also posted a lot about their great service. Search the board. On (2), globill themselves posted here in the last few days that foreign webmasters don't need a US corp. No special requirements.

10-05-2002, 11:52 PM	#7
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Quiet: Yea.. reckon Globill is a possible! And... no disrespect to Globill, but don't let any one credit processor handle your transactions - they (or rather, some "higher power") cannot be relied upon not to change the goal posts, so suggest you use a few processors for cards and rotate signup pages! You, nor anyone, needs to end up losing all their recurring billing to some card processor either thru their fault or that of their "I'm-In-The-Mood-For-A-New-Set-Of-Rules" banking partners...

10-05-2002, 11:59 PM	#11
Bear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 261	As for their password script, yes, they touch your htpasswd file. They auto delete all the exipre users. If you have other db other than .httpasswd, you hve to modify the script in order to delete the users there as well.

10-06-2002, 12:05 AM	#13
El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	Oh yeah! Ask Worldcom, Enron, and adelphia victims! BTW: Ibill didn't pay June web900 calls due Wordlcom bankrupcy, any thoughs on this anybody? __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

10-06-2002, 12:06 AM	#14
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Doubt there is any difference in US companies to others - too cynical for that! Although the public revelations of late may seen otherwise! Basically anyone that holds your money is a problem! From the old days on the net and the 900/audiotext frauds to current day is no different - there are assholes everywhere, not just in the US! Now.. about that security deposit from VISA

10-06-2002, 12:12 AM	#16
El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	check this: www.globosale.com www.multicards.com www.dutchbill.com www.2000charge.com European billers, the solution __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

10-06-2002, 12:14 AM	#17
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	Quiet, Did you find out any details about probilling? __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

10-06-2002, 12:30 AM	#22
El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	"Rumor is the big 3 are scrambling to setup merchant banks in other countries." Hey Fleabag! where did you heard that? __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

10-06-2002, 02:06 AM	#24
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	That's one hell of a handle, Shark.

10-11-2002, 01:27 PM	#25
seven Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: LaLa Land Posts: 2,697	My other window is on GloBill signup page. I see a potential problem.. they won't let me do a 3 mon rebill but max 31 days? But hey some of my members go for 3 mons and then rebill too.. duh! Also 16% starting rate is a bit higher than most other processors too. Maybe I should check probilling then? __________________ Toy Rev Rouge Web Design

10-11-2002, 09:57 PM	#26
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	- their support is great... they even answer posts in wrong sections of their message forum. - their interface is pretty good, although it could use some improvement. - the fact that you can only rebill one month subscriptions kinda sucks... - yes, they take 15.95 which is higher than normal, but you'll get significantly less chargebacks which'll make up for that difference. - good partner program and good user referral system. - their signup pages are very boring. i was gonna say something else, but i completely forgot... damnit.

10-16-2002, 05:00 PM	#29
seven Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: LaLa Land Posts: 2,697	Anyone else migrated to Glo-Bill from another processor? How's your experience with 'em so far? Migrating was smooth for me but not sure about the sales.. may be too soon to tell if it's better/worse.. __________________ Toy Rev Rouge Web Design