You know what Shap. I shouldn't have been so vulgar. It really wasn't your fault any more than it is anyone elses fault when they get conned. These illegal tube guys are scammers and I can only imagine how they spun it for you.

I am sorry for my comments and how they made you look.

wow so the thieves didn't disclouse something to you and they were less than honest...... shocking :upsidedow Who would have expected that from " ideal affiliates".

damn from all of your posts inregards to what shap has been doing, he could fart and you would reply " that seems great Shap, nice work!"

seriously, no matter what he does you " good jobbing" his every move.

please. why the fuck do i even read this site any more. You people buy the bullshit that is posted here and none of you like hearing my replies any way. I should just leave. I just can't help laugh they feed you bullshit and you actually give it an ounce of value to it. I know you said you not sticking up for them but to say " apparently working on it". Working on what ? :1orglaugh going legit????? LMAO they could go legit in a couple hours if they wanted to.

So the poor content thieves are trying to legitimize their site right???? Here are some VERY simple ways this can be done easy.
- all videos over 3 mins long do not go live when they are published by an end user. They go to a preview area. If there are watermarks or urls on them they are trashed unless it is the site owner, which in that case....
- create submitting accounts for select people and you dont have to monitor their content, they could do one for shap.
- If someone doesnt have a submit account and they want to upload a movie over 3 mins that is a *real* user submitted video, have the user identify themselves or the site the video is being used for. Like for example, in the video say " this is for redtube" at the beginning, which is proof it was user submitted. 100% fool proof.

VERY FUCKING SIMPLE, it would take them a couple hours to set this stuff up in place Shap. Come on you are not that fucking stupid. They are trying to legitimize their site :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh They just dont want to pay someone a couple bucks an hour to review the videos and they would lose all the long full video content if they did away with it. Then they would lose market share to megrotic and youporn, you know their competition is making them do it....

by the way if they use any of my ideas tell them I will send them a bill, or wait they are theives they wont pay it they will just steal the ideas and use them. :1orglaugh

so fucking sad and pathetic. I bet redtube uses the " we trying to legitimize our business" bullshit for the next several months till people stop posting about it and the issue goes away. Kind of like Lars' with the " adware colusions " and we are working on it. Those guys over at AFF worked on "adware colusion " problem for 6 months and they still couldn't solved it LOLOL :upsidedow

wasn't his fault, more than it is anyone elses fault when they get conned??? WTF.

They weren't some un known person that Shap took a chance with and he got burned. THEY ARE KNOW CONTENT THEIVES!

you know the stuff you suppose to learn on day 1, don't do business with known theives. he choose to do so and take the chance don't compare this to other people getting conned. Most people are smart enough not to do business with known theives.

Exactly.

What I don't understand is why some of these guys even bother to try and justify it. You know what you're doing. You know what the sponsors you do business with are doing. Maybe it's a guilt issue or internal moral crisis so you feel a need to justify it to yourself somehow by looking the other way or hoping someone thinks you're doing the right thing.

Notice the guys who speak out against a tube site, but still push the same sponsors heavily that allow the tube sites to monetize their traffic? I think it's funny when they speak up at all about it, because it's so transparent.

The reality is that someone's going to take the traffic, and get the benefit no matter what. No matter how much it damages anyone else. If it isn't you, it'll be your competitor.

The rest of you think it matters, but haven't you figured out by now that it doesn't? There's no one of consequence choosing not to do business with the sponsors who support this kind of thing. They won't be too concerned with the loss of traffic or sales from the typical insignificant webmaster (or GFY'er).

"This video has been removed."

Lol