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NETbilling · 02-12-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebastano Perero

We are in the Czech Republic. You will be working with us?

Hi,

We can but the bank will not unless you have and EU corp and are processing over 20k per month.

NETbilling · 02-12-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Well said.

Amazing how people are coming in and giving advice without a clue. Or spamming a thread like this.

We have a Merchant account Mitch and you can't get anywhere near the level they give us.

As for the "Go with the established names!!!" It's been said already.

Hi Paul,

I am glad you have a merchant account. Always a smart move when possible IMO.

Sebastano Perero · 02-12-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NetBilling

Hi,

We can but the bank will not unless you have and EU corp and are processing over 20k per month.

Sakra :-(

RegUser · 02-12-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

the problem that most of you don't understand is:

if you run a contentshop you are massively limited in billing options

you can't use CCBill or Paycom because they do not allow larger transactions than maybe $150 or $200 at once, and for a merchant account you need to do $50,000 per month. and how many contentshops do that??? maybe 2 or 3

so please stop pretending to be smarter than us who have to live with this problem to keep our business up for those of you who need to buy content and want the freedom of paying with your credit card.

thank you

I fully agree. They were recommended to us and excellent.

One thing no one understands is that if you are in Canada, you really have no bloody choice.
paycom is out of question, no visa processor at all. and how many can do over $100000 a year?

TampaToker · 02-12-2008, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

the problem that most of you don't understand is:

if you run a contentshop you are massively limited in billing options

you can't use CCBill or Paycom because they do not allow larger transactions than maybe $150 or $200 at once, and for a merchant account you need to do $50,000 per month. and how many contentshops do that??? maybe 2 or 3

so please stop pretending to be smarter than us who have to live with this problem to keep our business up for those of you who need to buy content and want the freedom of paying with your credit card.

thank you

RegUser · 02-12-2008, 07:07 PM

i guess time has come for me to get incorporated in EU

RegUser · 02-13-2008, 03:13 AM

has anyone set up with zombaio?? Anyone getting paid so far? brickbats or bouquets?

ManuelX · 02-13-2008, 03:26 AM

When choosing a processor attention should be palced on whom you place your trust, we, at Global Acces have been in the bussines for a long time, and never missed a single payment

Paul Markham · 02-13-2008, 05:10 AM

Eva just gave me the figures and we lost a lot of money.

So I'm preparing a few packages and open for deals, need to recoup a few thousand dollars. Quite a few.

So hit me up on ICQ, Skype or phone me +420 603 298 001

At least with content you can get something back.

Lets make a deal!!!

Paul Markham · 02-13-2008, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by manuglobalacces

When choosing a processor attention should be palced on whom you place your trust, we, at Global Acces have been in the bussines for a long time, and never missed a single payment

Hit me up please.

We are accepted on Epoch, so might process the content stores with them. However ...............

Christina Muller · 02-13-2008, 02:09 PM

Hi Guys ,
I didnt mean to bust anyones balls! or try to be smart,maybe I didnt word the reply good.

Sorry to hear you lost money Paul,hope it works out.

MaDalton yes I know its difficult for most adult operations not based in the usa.

What I was actually trying to say was everyday it seems a new no name processor comes along and people jump on it fast and without much research then later watch thier money vanish ouch! as everyone knows losing money is not fun.

Of course many have to take any processor available

With ibill I watched as many continued to process with them long after the first warning signs.

Yes Will76 I have always processed with CCbill and with my own merchant account to spread the risk,lucky not to have lost $ of course!!! as it can happen to anyone but I did check as much info as I could before I even started.

Hope that helped

Paul Markham · 02-13-2008, 09:31 PM

Don't worry about it Christina, this is GFY and it gets tough here. LOL

Content providers are in a different position to many others, we don't do $30 orders, more like $300. We need processors who can handle this and can bill for a license rather than a membership.

IBILL is a good example of how trusting many of us are.

Webstream were good for years and years, but it seems they were billing for a company they should not of been anywhere near. So the next time a processor says "Don't do that." listen. Because this has cost more than me a lot of money. Our reserve has gone, will we get it? If Webstream get it yes, I trust them.

tical · 02-13-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trixxxia

In that article they also mentioned NetCash - anyone know if they're also facing the same issues?

anyone have any info on this?

will76 · 02-14-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Christina Muller

Yes Will76 I have always processed with CCbill and with my own merchant account to spread the risk,lucky not to have lost $ of course!!! as it can happen to anyone but I did check as much info as I could before I even started.

Hope that helped

When i started there really was no difference between ccbill, ibill, and drm. they were all pretty new companies and all were about the same size with the same features. It was luck to have had selected one over the other. It is easy for someone in the last couple years to select ccbill, there are in a class by themselves. But several years ago this was not the case.

Christina Muller · 02-14-2008, 12:21 AM

Thanks Paul M, thanks Will76,

I didnt want to start a war or impression I was a smart ass,I only want to be here to discuss subjects, be totally honest with my experiences/ideas and be supportive of most things but also be a critic with some backbone

.

Well thats my aim

LadyMischief · 02-14-2008, 12:34 AM

I'm really so not surprised. Webstream was a fraud nightmare.

Paul Markham · 02-14-2008, 03:10 AM

The lesson that processors need to learn is if you process for something Visa does not like you and us will lose money.

Phil · 02-14-2008, 06:49 AM

didn't they spam every webmaster with their "Hi, my name is Zach..." e-mails?

NKYKev · 02-14-2008, 09:04 AM

Can anyone suggest a good US solution for online processing of DVDs with BDSM content? Netbilling is not an option.

NETbilling · 02-14-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RegUser

I fully agree. They were recommended to us and excellent.

One thing no one understands is that if you are in Canada, you really have no bloody choice.
paycom is out of question, no visa processor at all. and how many can do over $100000 a year?

You do not need to be doing 100k, just 20k for us to help you.

ManuelX · 02-15-2008, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by socalkev

Can anyone suggest a good US solution for online processing of DVDs with BDSM content? Netbilling is not an option.

Have you considered our Voice Pin to enter system?

Hansm · 02-15-2008, 04:15 AM

12 * 20k = $240000

he is talking about the yearly amount what i readed. so its even more than 100k

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling

You do not need to be doing 100k, just 20k for us to help you.

Hansm · 02-15-2008, 04:16 AM

Looks like visa/mastercard is serious having strict rules.

BVF · 02-15-2008, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

When i started there really was no difference between ccbill, ibill, and drm. they were all pretty new companies and all were about the same size with the same features. It was luck to have had selected one over the other. It is easy for someone in the last couple years to select ccbill, there are in a class by themselves. But several years ago this was not the case.

I don't remember drm but I was about to pick Ibill over CCbill when I first started....However, the B.S. that IBill put you through to get an account vs. the efficiency of CCbill made me go with CCbill....

You also must remember back in the day when there were fucked up Ibill threads almost everyday LONG before they closed up shop....I even remember way back in 2003 when I was in Florida, EVERY major biller had a representative on the stage except Ibill......Even though I wasn't processing with them, I knew something was wrong....

Paul Markham · 02-16-2008, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hansm

Looks like visa/mastercard is serious having strict rules.

So next time someone complains about CCBILL or Epoch being tough remember it's your money they are protecting.

celandina · 03-21-2008, 09:11 AM

Nice thread here.... Also, nice to see all of the processors squaking here like vultures over another porcessor's corpse...:" Me Me Me I take you and then fuck you"..... Come on people, Webstream went down because some assehole murdered a girl and said he saw it on TV ( OK Internet then) and all like lemmings to the sea are here screaming about "do not process bad guys" like the Taliban of all processors CCBill has in its AUP

They would not process: Hostel,Saw and likley not even Schindlers List or Killing Fields....that how anal they are and the rest of them. It is simply the decline of the American/European Empire(s).

RegUser · 03-21-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Premier Payments

Scary.

Premier Payments Online can help any of you who have lost processing as a result.

[email protected]

why dont you elaborate a bit more here about your company, capabilities and how long it has been in business etc ???

Pleasurepays · 03-21-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Trixxxia

Christina - going with a trusted company doesn't necessarily mean you're protected. In the case of Ibill, for example, they were one of the largest and they fell and a lot of people will agree that they were all far from protected.

ibill was in trouble for a long time before they fell and it was pretty clear to anyone that had their eyes open. there were THE processor for spammers and once that all stopped, they fell apart, were sold, fell apart some more, 900 payouts stopped... payments got later and later etc etc etc... then they totally collapsed. there was no surprise at all. many people took the gamble in the end, because they didn't want to lose rebills... so they made a bad choice and paid for it.

your post has nothing to do with what she said. the point is that people went with an unknown vs the 2-3 very well known, very solid companies that have withstood the test of time and then they all come and bitch and complain when it goes south.

why?

because this business is full of anti-social, backwards idiots that have to go their own way and be totally different than everyone else... when they end up paying for it, they don't deserve sympathy or credit for being "different"

this is the only business in the world besides a racist cult, where you can show up on a forum and call everyone n|gger and cunt like trey did and build a company from it simply because it appeals to all the idiots and kids with no business sense that want to be different.

Pleasurepays · 03-21-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

You also must remember back in the day when there were fucked up Ibill threads almost everyday LONG before they closed up shop....I even remember way back in 2003 when I was in Florida, EVERY major biller had a representative on the stage except Ibill......Even though I wasn't processing with them, I knew something was wrong....

exactly. it annoys the hell out of me when people say "Ibill was a reputable company......" as an example to point out that "it can happen to you".

B2BwithJoeD · 03-21-2008, 12:05 PM

Webstream is a successful mid-sized S. Florida hosting company that went into billing originally to assist their hosting clients with a quiet, efficient, well-run business model. They have been working at it for years - at least six I know of - and I really can't remember hearing much negative before this. It appears to be a breakdown in compliance inspection that caught them up with Visa/MC which should have everyone increasing their vigilance rather than anything else, as this appears to have been a somewhat glaring oversight...

And since everyone did jump in with offers

Webbilling.com can offer you the primary preferred method for EU webmasters to pay for their content purchases [and surfers to join your sites] in Germany, Austria, Spain, The Netherlands and the United Kingdom with no min/max amount, virtual or hard goods delivery.

Most likely anything you'd want to know is in this blog entry: Your 'Alternative' Billing Self-Test

Great discussion, and see everyone in Phoenix - write or ICQ if you'd like to meet

RegUser · 03-21-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Webbilling JoeD

Webstream is a successful mid-sized S. Florida hosting company that went into billing originally to assist their hosting clients with a quiet, efficient, well-run business model. They have been working at it for years - at least six I know of - and I really can't remember hearing much negative before this. It appears to be a breakdown in compliance inspection that caught them up with Visa/MC which should have everyone increasing their vigilance rather than anything else, as this appears to have been a somewhat glaring oversight...

And since everyone did jump in with offers

Webbilling.com can offer you the primary preferred method for EU webmasters to pay for their content purchases [and surfers to join your sites] in Germany, Austria, Spain, The Netherlands and the United Kingdom with no min/max amount, virtual or hard goods delivery.

Most likely anything you'd want to know is in this blog entry: Your 'Alternative' Billing Self-Test

Great discussion, and see everyone in Phoenix - write or ICQ if you'd like to meet

good helpful post buddy
too bad you dont offer credit card services

Fizzgig · 03-21-2008, 07:06 PM

Ouch, that really sucks.

kristin · 03-21-2008, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

the problem that most of you don't understand is:

if you run a contentshop you are massively limited in billing options

you can't use CCBill or Paycom because they do not allow larger transactions than maybe $150 or $200 at once, and for a merchant account you need to do $50,000 per month. and how many contentshops do that??? maybe 2 or 3

so please stop pretending to be smarter than us who have to live with this problem to keep our business up for those of you who need to buy content and want the freedom of paying with your credit card.

thank you

Try DHDMedia ... I think they can do content sales for higher amounts.

MaDalton · 03-22-2008, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin

Try DHDMedia ... I think they can do content sales for higher amounts.

thanks!

will have a look, but at the moment i'm happy with www.paysite-cash.biz

Barefootsies · 03-23-2008, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

never heard of them, thankfully.

bashbug · 03-23-2008, 03:13 PM

Magic Join links

RegUser · 04-15-2008, 03:38 PM

well, did anyone get any settlement money from webstream?
they owe me thousands

Methodcash Rick · 04-19-2008, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trixxxia

In that article they also mentioned NetCash - anyone know if they're also facing the same issues?

Not sure if they're facing the same issues, but I can now play basketball with THREE checks Netc(R)ash sent me... Fuckers bounced so high, they still haven't come down.

Boobgirl · 04-29-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodcash Rick

Not sure if they're facing the same issues, but I can now play basketball with THREE checks Netc(R)ash sent me... Fuckers bounced so high, they still haven't come down.

Any new info?

notoldschool · 04-29-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bashbug

Magic Join links

I was wondering when this would hit the thread.

V_RocKs · 04-29-2008, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

the problem that most of you don't understand is:

if you run a contentshop you are massively limited in billing options

you can't use CCBill or Paycom because they do not allow larger transactions than maybe $150 or $200 at once, and for a merchant account you need to do $50,000 per month. and how many contentshops do that??? maybe 2 or 3

so please stop pretending to be smarter than us who have to live with this problem to keep our business up for those of you who need to buy content and want the freedom of paying with your credit card.

thank you

Another reason to use Epoch/Paycom!

RegUser · 05-27-2008, 03:50 PM

so no one received anything from webstream?

Jenny S. · 05-27-2008, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trixxxia

Christina - going with a trusted company doesn't necessarily mean you're protected. In the case of Ibill, for example, ..

So true, they were more trusted than CC Bill, back in the days. They sunk swiftly, and took 4 grand of mine down...

Jenny S. · 05-27-2008, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

ibill was in trouble for a long time before they fell and it was pretty clear to anyone that had their eyes open.... payments got later and later etc etc etc... then they totally collapsed.

What are you getting at? My third CC Bill check this year is late. The one from 05/05 arrived on 5/21.

Should I switch now, and, if yes, to whom?

Holly Lez! · 05-27-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Another reason to use EPOCH/Paycom!

I was going to post that same thing! Epoch rocks!

nojob · 05-27-2008, 09:15 PM

Happens way too often.

madfuck · 05-27-2008, 09:17 PM

never hear of them, well Gud lucky

Paul Markham · 05-27-2008, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FalconStudios Holly

I was going to post that same thing! Epoch rocks!

Yes I'm very impressed with Epoch and the sales that are starting to come in.

DWB · 05-28-2008, 01:15 AM

What ever happened with that Z company that skinned the board not too long ago? Zambaio or something like that.

GrouchyAdmin · 05-28-2008, 01:16 AM

I love my NetBilling. I would like a bank that didn't suck, though.

02-13-2008, 03:26 AM	#58
ManuelX Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Andorra Posts: 657	just gets to show When choosing a processor attention should be palced on whom you place your trust, we, at Global Acces have been in the bussines for a long time, and never missed a single payment

02-13-2008, 05:10 AM	#59
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Eva just gave me the figures and we lost a lot of money. So I'm preparing a few packages and open for deals, need to recoup a few thousand dollars. Quite a few. So hit me up on ICQ, Skype or phone me +420 603 298 001 At least with content you can get something back. Lets make a deal!!! __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

02-13-2008, 02:09 PM	#61
Christina Muller Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canada/Germany Posts: 923	Hi Guys , I didnt mean to bust anyones balls! or try to be smart,maybe I didnt word the reply good. Sorry to hear you lost money Paul,hope it works out. MaDalton yes I know its difficult for most adult operations not based in the usa. What I was actually trying to say was everyday it seems a new no name processor comes along and people jump on it fast and without much research then later watch thier money vanish ouch! as everyone knows losing money is not fun. Of course many have to take any processor available With ibill I watched as many continued to process with them long after the first warning signs. Yes Will76 I have always processed with CCbill and with my own merchant account to spread the risk,lucky not to have lost $ of course!!! as it can happen to anyone but I did check as much info as I could before I even started. Hope that helped __________________ Promote A Brand Your Surfer Trusts Playboy No Upsell - No X Sales - No Bullshit !

02-13-2008, 09:31 PM	#62
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Don't worry about it Christina, this is GFY and it gets tough here. LOL Content providers are in a different position to many others, we don't do $30 orders, more like $300. We need processors who can handle this and can bill for a license rather than a membership. IBILL is a good example of how trusting many of us are. Webstream were good for years and years, but it seems they were billing for a company they should not of been anywhere near. So the next time a processor says "Don't do that." listen. Because this has cost more than me a lot of money. Our reserve has gone, will we get it? If Webstream get it yes, I trust them. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

02-14-2008, 12:21 AM	#65
Christina Muller Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canada/Germany Posts: 923	Thanks Paul M, thanks Will76, I didnt want to start a war or impression I was a smart ass,I only want to be here to discuss subjects, be totally honest with my experiences/ideas and be supportive of most things but also be a critic with some backbone . Well thats my aim __________________ Promote A Brand Your Surfer Trusts Playboy No Upsell - No X Sales - No Bullshit !

02-12-2008, 07:07 PM	#56
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	i guess time has come for me to get incorporated in EU

02-13-2008, 03:13 AM	#57
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	has anyone set up with zombaio?? Anyone getting paid so far? brickbats or bouquets?

02-14-2008, 12:34 AM	#66
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	I'm really so not surprised. Webstream was a fraud nightmare. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

02-14-2008, 03:10 AM	#67
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The lesson that processors need to learn is if you process for something Visa does not like you and us will lose money. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

02-14-2008, 06:49 AM	#68
Phil Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,659	didn't they spam every webmaster with their "Hi, my name is Zach..." e-mails? __________________ Ask Phil

02-14-2008, 09:04 AM	#69
NKYKev Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 283	Can anyone suggest a good US solution for online processing of DVDs with BDSM content? Netbilling is not an option.

02-15-2008, 04:16 AM	#73
Hansm Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 871	Looks like visa/mastercard is serious having strict rules.

03-21-2008, 09:11 AM	#76
celandina Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 11,479	Nice thread here.... Also, nice to see all of the processors squaking here like vultures over another porcessor's corpse...:" Me Me Me I take you and then fuck you"..... Come on people, Webstream went down because some assehole murdered a girl and said he saw it on TV ( OK Internet then) and all like lemmings to the sea are here screaming about "do not process bad guys" like the Taliban of all processors CCBill has in its AUP They would not process: Hostel,Saw and likley not even Schindlers List or Killing Fields....that how anal they are and the rest of them. It is simply the decline of the American/European Empire(s).

03-21-2008, 12:05 PM	#80
B2BwithJoeD Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: PayoutMag.com Posts: 1,390	My Turn! Webstream is a successful mid-sized S. Florida hosting company that went into billing originally to assist their hosting clients with a quiet, efficient, well-run business model. They have been working at it for years - at least six I know of - and I really can't remember hearing much negative before this. It appears to be a breakdown in compliance inspection that caught them up with Visa/MC which should have everyone increasing their vigilance rather than anything else, as this appears to have been a somewhat glaring oversight... And since everyone did jump in with offers Webbilling.com can offer you the primary preferred method for EU webmasters to pay for their content purchases [and surfers to join your sites] in Germany, Austria, Spain, The Netherlands and the United Kingdom with no min/max amount, virtual or hard goods delivery. Most likely anything you'd want to know is in this blog entry: Your 'Alternative' Billing Self-Test Great discussion, and see everyone in Phoenix - write or ICQ if you'd like to meet __________________ BLOG IT! How Will You Spend Your 2014 Profits? - PayoutMag.com Ask me About - Unique Processing and Marketing Solutions - Your Only Risk Is More Revenue!

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Fizzgig Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: In Your Dreams Posts: 9,649	Ouch, that really sucks. __________________ ---'-,-{@ Sassy Grrrl @}-'-,---

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bashbug Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 929	Magic Join links

04-15-2008, 03:38 PM	#87
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	well, did anyone get any settlement money from webstream? they owe me thousands

05-27-2008, 03:50 PM	#92
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	so no one received anything from webstream?

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nojob The Original NoJob Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Jerzzey Posts: 3,682	Happens way too often.

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madfuck Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,032	never hear of them, well Gud lucky

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DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	What ever happened with that Z company that skinned the board not too long ago? Zambaio or something like that.

05-28-2008, 01:16 AM	#100
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