A work around for the VISA situation? - GoFuckYourself.com

SykkBoy · 10-04-2002, 10:14 PM

What if a company were to get a merchant account for hardgoods....then they sell a videotape or DVD and by buying the video or DVD, they get a membership to a memership site?

Maybe even a subscription to a video/dvd of the month club and as an added bonus, they recieve access to a fabulous membership site?

I'm sure there would be a snag somewhere there though...

there has been a lot of talk about some type of an adult credit card...the problem with that is trust....you have to have the trust of BOTH the customer and the merchant...there are a ton of guys in this industry that I just simply wouldn't trust to handle something like that...and trying to get a surfer to trust them as well? a very tough, uphill battle....

Fletch XXX · 10-04-2002, 10:16 PM

What kinda hardgoods?

SykkBoy · 10-04-2002, 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
What kinda hardgoods?

bongs... ;)

actually, videos, dvd's, etc.

10-04-2002, 10:19 PM

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KingK7 · 10-04-2002, 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2

there has been a lot of talk about some type of an adult credit card...the problem with that is trust....you have to have the trust of BOTH the customer and the merchant...there are a ton of guys in this industry that I just simply wouldn't trust to handle something like that...and trying to get a surfer to trust them as well? a very tough, uphill battle....

This is something that would never work...
Not on a large scale anyways..

[Labret] · 10-04-2002, 10:21 PM

I think it would work brilliantly on niche sites.

SykkBoy · 10-04-2002, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by KingK7

This is something that would never work...
Not on a large scale anyways..

I agree....there are several negatives:
distribution
enough people actually buying them to be of any use
implementation by sites
the trust factor

KingK7 · 10-04-2002, 10:27 PM

Well.... If you could give them away for free, let them use it to taste some of the sites, kinda like samples, then get them to WANT to "refill" them for more... there might be some value in it.
It has to be done on a GRAND scale for it to be profitable though.

The major magazines could distribute something like this if there was something in it for them...

quiet · 10-04-2002, 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2

I agree....there are several negatives:
distribution
enough people actually buying them to be of any use
implementation by sites
the trust factor

yeah, distribution would be a huge headache

smashface · 10-04-2002, 10:30 PM

Ive seen something along these lines already - a prepaid internet card used to surf anonymously. I dont think it would be a big stretch to get these guys to print password codes on the cards.

And they already have a distribution network.

Steve G · 10-04-2002, 10:45 PM

If anybody is interested i have this idea

our company can send a bottle of our VImax pills, Liquid RX
Female RX, Pheromones, Breast Pills
and other shit pretty cheap

so you can reduce the chargebacks and offer a free gift to your surfers if they stick for 3 months or more

Just an idea
if anybody wants to discuss it further my email is
[email protected]

Sly_RJ · 10-04-2002, 10:53 PM

Problem with hard goods, legislation. Some types of videos can not be distributed to various locales. For example, some areas in Florida you can NOT distribute anal sex videos. It is not the consumers' responsibility, it's the Distributors responsibility. You'll go to jail unless you watch your shipping, like distributors must do.

Zebra · 10-04-2002, 10:53 PM

Under the new Visa rules it seems they have a lot more freedom in picking who they ban from processing with them. I can easily see them finding some way to fuck over anyone trying to do this. Basically they are trying to get everyone to play ball according to their rules and if they dont want you accepting money thru them they will find a way to boot your ass.

Good luck though to any who try.

SykkBoy · 10-04-2002, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Problem with hard goods, legislation. Some types of videos can not be distributed to various locales. For example, some areas in Florida you can NOT distribute anal sex videos. It is not the consumers' responsibility, it's the Distributors responsibility. You'll go to jail unless you watch your shipping, like distributors must do.

hmmm, what if it were a bikini video?

the pitch:
Subscribe to our Bikini of the month video for $39.95 per month and recieve access to our XXX Hardcore porn site for FREE (as long as you stay an active member). So, the video is softcore and the site is hardcore....less of a chargeback issue since they have hard goods.

maybe for the amatuer girls, they can sell a hard package of glossies, written note...something like fanclub merchandise and the surfer also gets access to her "private fantasy site"? The package is softcore and the site is hardcore....

SykkBoy · 10-04-2002, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by Zebra
Under the new Visa rules it seems they have a lot more freedom in picking who they ban from processing with them. I can easily see them finding some way to fuck over anyone trying to do this. Basically they are trying to get everyone to play ball according to their rules and if they dont want you accepting money thru them they will find a way to boot your ass.

Good luck though to any who try.

I was thinking of this as more of a way to combat the chargeback issue...is the surfer has hard goods delivered, then it's supposed to be harder to chargeback, correct? I realize this could be a deal killer if hubby doesn't want wifey recieving the package while he's at the office, but something is better than nothing....

ClevelandSlim · 10-04-2002, 11:02 PM

what our president was up to last week...

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Carrie · 10-04-2002, 11:05 PM

Make sure they have to sign for that package!

Although with Visa's "no liability" policy, you can charge back anything at any time, no questions asked... check it out on Visa's site. So a signature might not even help.

El Demonio · 10-04-2002, 11:09 PM

How bad should be to rely only on checks and web900?

ExpertSeries · 10-04-2002, 11:35 PM

Cleveland, that's hilarious.

El Demonio, we have new check technology coming out next week (and we believe actions like this from visa will create confidence in other payment methods.. like checks). People want the porn, they'll have to get comfortable with how you pay for it.

UnseenWorld · 10-04-2002, 11:49 PM

"Join the Toothpick of the month club and we'll send you a brand new toothpick every month for only $19.95 until you tell us to stop. As a side benefit, you can have your choice of visiting our private collection of adult photography and video OR being bitten by a rabid pit bull."

Carrie · 10-05-2002, 12:01 AM

Make it a mint-flavored toothpick and you've got a deal.

NETbilling · 10-05-2002, 01:32 AM

Hi,

Most people who want a porn membership definately do not want anything shipped to their house. Nice idea but it is much easier just to get a high risk merchant account, outlasy the $$$ for the initial fees and continue business as before but with much more control.

Mitch

ControlThy · 10-05-2002, 01:47 AM

Instant money transfer from bankaccount.

Is that possible yet besides cheques?

It would not require creditcards...

SykkBoy · 10-05-2002, 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by ControlThy
Instant money transfer from bankaccount.

Is that possible yet besides cheques?

It would not require creditcards...

In my telemarketing days we had "check by phone" options...I wonder if that is the same as online check processing? Also, if someone fucks you on a check, don't you have the recourse of turning them in to Chex Systems?

Squishy · 10-05-2002, 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2

bongs... ;)

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SykkBoy · 10-05-2002, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by Squishy

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you Wyoming webmasters are so fucking weird ;))))

Squishy · 10-05-2002, 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2

you Wyoming webmasters are so fucking weird ;))))

Yessir...I submit all of 10 TGP galleries a month, and am the official king of Wyoming porn webmasters. How sad is that? I keep hoping someone in Casper will figure out how to do this shit, so we can have a convention at the Shilo Inn...maybe even go kick it at the mall.

SykkBoy · 10-05-2002, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by Squishy

Yessir...I submit all of 10 TGP galleries a month, and am the official king of Wyoming porn webmasters. How sad is that? I keep hoping someone in Casper will figure out how to do this shit, so we can have a convention at the Shilo Inn...maybe even go kick it at the mall.

hahaha, I have a good friend from highschool driving truck for Pepsi up in your area....was thinking of popping out to see him....maybe we'll do a mini-mini-mini-mini webmaster get together...you, me and Snoops at the Shilo? Casper would rock....but maybe Thermopolis instead? I haven't inhaled any sulfer in awhile.....hey, we could teach my truckdriving bloodbrother how to hawk evil internet po'nography???

Squishy · 10-05-2002, 02:19 AM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2

hahaha, I have a good friend from highschool driving truck for Pepsi up in your area....was thinking of popping out to see him....maybe we'll do a mini-mini-mini-mini webmaster get together...you, me and Snoops at the Shilo? Casper would rock....but maybe Thermopolis instead? I haven't inhaled any sulfer in awhile.....hey, we could teach my truckdriving bloodbrother how to hawk evil internet po'nography???

Dude, I am down with either Casper or Thermop, or Sheridan if you wanna come kick it in my little crackhouse apartment...if it comes to that, ICQ me...we will drink the hicks into the dirt.

Squishy · 10-05-2002, 02:22 AM

BTW, one of my very good friends is GM at the Shilo, that's why I brought it up...hella free shit.

SykkBoy · 10-05-2002, 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by Squishy

Dude, I am down with either Casper or Thermop, or Sheridan if you wanna come kick it in my little crackhouse apartment...if it comes to that, ICQ me...we will drink the hicks into the dirt.

fuck yeah, that would be great.....but I've been away from Mountain country for so long, would take a few days for me to adjust to the altitude before drinking ;)

I was supposed to be back in Lander for the One Shot last month, but due to this new project, couldn't squeeze it in....this time of year I always get homesick for Wyoming as here in the desert, we have no real change of seasons...and I wanna go kill a couple deer and a duck or two.......

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Steve G Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 209	If anybody is interested i have this idea our company can send a bottle of our VImax pills, Liquid RX Female RX, Pheromones, Breast Pills and other shit pretty cheap so you can reduce the chargebacks and offer a free gift to your surfers if they stick for 3 months or more Just an idea if anybody wants to discuss it further my email is [email protected]

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