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|  02-01-2008, 09:05 PM | #1 | 
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				Affiliate conduct... should this be allowed?
			 I have an affiliate that has posted a couple of our ENTIRE video and photo sets in their members area. Not promo material, and not sample pics or videos, but a couple of our entire weekly updates. This affiliate is padding their members area with other sites content. They are posting full length videos about twice a week, and there are clips from many sites... not just ours. Is this standard practice for affiliates, or should I pissed? 
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|  02-01-2008, 09:06 PM | #2 | 
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|  02-01-2008, 09:07 PM | #3 | 
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				 | In their members area? | 
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|  02-01-2008, 09:07 PM | #4 | 
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				 | you shouldn't ask this type of questions m8.......the answer is obvious  
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|  02-01-2008, 09:08 PM | #5 | 
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				 | btw give me user/pass to naughtyAlysha so i can spank my monkey | 
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|  02-01-2008, 09:08 PM | #6 | 
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				 | Errr no that is totally fucked up. | 
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|  02-01-2008, 09:13 PM | #7 | 
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				 | I thought so. I have joined the site and looked for myself. There is content from WifeysWorld, Raven Riley, Sammy4U, Brook Skye, Twistys, Nicole Graves, and dozens more... I count 59 "bonus" updates in their members area, all full length updates from other sites. 
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|  02-01-2008, 09:14 PM | #8 | |
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|  02-01-2008, 09:14 PM | #9 | |
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|  02-01-2008, 09:22 PM | #10 | 
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				 | Its not standard practice send him DMCA. If he doesn't respond, repeat this with his host. 
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|  02-01-2008, 09:32 PM | #11 | 
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				 | Kick his ass Adam, Nobody's affiliate should ever do this. This is the biggest fuck you that any affiliate could ever do the their sponsor. Give him one chance to make this right..........if not well us Vegas people know how to fix things.   p.s. It was great seeing you at AVN NosMo 
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|  02-01-2008, 09:34 PM | #12 | 
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				 | he's padding his own members area with other people's content without asking -  it's definitely against any program's rules to do that -  i'd allow it if he was sending significant number of sales through that members area but i bet he doesn't. 
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|  02-01-2008, 09:40 PM | #13 | 
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				 | Hells noooo That's karmic justice for ya | 
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|  02-01-2008, 09:57 PM | #14 | 
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				 | A list of all the "bonus" updates he's posted: Wifeysworld.com NaughtyAtHome.com NaughtyAllie.com Melody (AmateurAllure.com) GiaMarie.com HotWifeRio.com NaughtyAlysha.com KellyMadison.com HaleyWilde.com HouseWifeKelly.com QueenyLove.com Lady-Sonia.com RealityWife.com CatalinaCruz.com OralAmber.com WifeysWorld.com AmberAtHome.com VanillaDeVille.com NaughtyAtHome.com RachelAziani.com NaughtyAlysha.com RobandJill.com Talia (AmateurAllure.com) ChristinaNoir.com GiaMarie.com IDeepThroat.com Janet-Exposed.com SweetCumGirl.com AbbyWinters.com MariahXXX.net CathysCraving.net BrandiBelle.com NaughtyJulie.com SquirtingCarly.com AlexisGolden.com HaleyWilde.com BarbiSluttyAdventures.com MyWifeAshley.com QueenyLove.com WifeCrazy.com DebsDeepThroat.com JenMadison.com Nikky (AmateurAllure.com) BrandiLove.com RachelAziani.com Seska.com Sammy4U.com Lady-Sonia.com FoxyAnya.com LizVicious.com JeanSwings.com AbbysPlayground.com RavenRiley.com WifeysWorld.com NicoleGraves.com FTVGirls.com Twistys.com BrookeSkye.com BridesonBlacks.com 
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|  02-01-2008, 09:59 PM | #15 | 
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				 | So whose doing this? Why protect their identity? :P | 
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|  02-01-2008, 10:18 PM | #16 | 
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				 | We've sent you sales from our members area with 15 gallery pics, we don't even have a full video from ya (yet). Thats WAY overkill, makes me wonder.... 
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|  02-01-2008, 10:20 PM | #17 | 
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				 | I sent them an email... haven't heard back yet. Was going to give them a chance to tell their side. 
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|  02-01-2008, 10:23 PM | #18 | 
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				 | I was gonna say the same thing. If the guy's sending a bunch of sales from a protected members area why complain? If he put up full picture sets and videos on a FREE site, I'd see that as a little different. | 
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|  02-01-2008, 10:32 PM | #19 | |
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 He's only sent 67 hits since the beginning of the year, and we've converted 3 of them, so he's 1:22 right now. But, with that large of an update with our content, does the viewer really need to join our site? 
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|  02-01-2008, 10:37 PM | #20 | 
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				 | You just pegged it. This is why it is wrong. He is using your content to sell his members area and keep his members on his site by giving them updates to multiple other sites. Basically this is theft and should be reported! | 
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|  02-01-2008, 10:42 PM | #21 | |
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 1:22 is pretty darn good though. If it were me I might talk to them, lay down some ground rules and try it for a while. | |
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|  02-01-2008, 10:46 PM | #22 | |
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 Oh, and he does advertise on his tour... our stuff, and all of those other sites I listed. Of course, there's no mention of the actual website until you get into the members area. 
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|  02-01-2008, 10:47 PM | #23 | |
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 If he wasn't linking to the site who's content he's using, it would be theft. Obviously he's not trying to hide it. Like I said, I'd rather the guy do this than take the videos and upload them to a tube site. | |
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|  02-01-2008, 10:49 PM | #24 | |
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 Again, if it were ME, I'd contact the guy and tell him unless he complies you're gonna can him and serve him a DMCA. Make him play by YOUR rules, which imho should be what I suggested. Rotated content and NOTHING on his tour...that DOES take away from your site. | |
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|  02-01-2008, 10:52 PM | #25 | 
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				 | Here is one of our sets in his members area (I resized it):  
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|  02-01-2008, 10:54 PM | #26 | 
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				 | Well c'mon man, he considers you a FRIEND. ;) Seriously, that does seem a little out there. Like I said, talk to the guy and make him work under YOUR rules...or shut him down. | 
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|  02-01-2008, 10:55 PM | #27 | 
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				 | who is it? | 
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|  02-01-2008, 10:59 PM | #28 | 
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				 | And his free tour area (The CLICK HERE button on the tour goes to his join page, not our website):  
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|  02-01-2008, 11:00 PM | #29 | 
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				 | Does the guy have any of his OWN content? | 
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|  02-01-2008, 11:01 PM | #30 | 
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				 | disregard what "standard practice" is. The best way to approach the situation is with an open dialogue , unless he is blatantly ripping you off. I would let him know that what he is doing is not permitted by your terms and if he would like to continue to use your content for his members area he must sign a contract that he is agreeing to "different terms" that you both agree on beforehand. 
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|  02-01-2008, 11:05 PM | #31 | 
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|  02-01-2008, 11:55 PM | #32 | 
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				 | Signup to his site and do the same to him... http://www.chica4cash.com/featuredsite.html | 
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|  02-02-2008, 12:21 AM | #33 | 
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				 | I know that as a TGP owner that I would never even think about doing this.  This is just WRONG in so many ways and they are hurting the whole biz by giving too much away.  This person sounds like a tiny step above a tube site.  After all why would anyone pay to join you site if they are going to get to see all of the updates for free ??? Another thing....whatever happened to the principle of giving credit where credit is due??? | 
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|  02-02-2008, 03:43 AM | #34 | 
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				 | Looking into this right now passing this onto our legal guys. We don't just let this sort of thing go anymore. 
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|  02-02-2008, 03:49 AM | #35 | 
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				 | I just want to make it very clear to our affiliates etc that we do not permit this kind of behaviour. We are in the process of taking legal action against this individual and he has been notified. We will also be in touch with CCBill to request his account (the one for his site) be closed due to multiple instances of copyright violation. | 
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|  02-02-2008, 06:33 AM | #36 | 
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|  02-02-2008, 08:01 AM | #37 | 
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				 | I've not been awake long, so if the site has been posted in the thread, I missed it. Could someone please hit me up with a link? Thank you.  
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|  02-02-2008, 08:02 AM | #38 | 
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				 | http://www.chicasplace.com Once inside, click on the UPDATES link. 
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|  02-02-2008, 08:06 AM | #39 | 
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				 | He claims he has permission to post the content, but he's posted two of our updates and I never heard from him. And hearing two of you say you know nothing about it makes me wonder... 
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|  02-02-2008, 08:11 AM | #40 | 
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				 | He joined our affiliate program, then joined our website through his affiliate link. Then, he entered our site and took the content without letting us know anything, posting it on his website. I guess he figures that if he makes one sale he gets back what he paid for a membership. 
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|  02-02-2008, 08:11 AM | #41 | 
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				 | I can confirm that he doesn?t have permission to post our content and we have sent a DCMA to his host and contacted his billing. 
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|  02-02-2008, 08:13 AM | #42 | |
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|  02-02-2008, 08:15 AM | #43 | 
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				 | No, they never asked us. 
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|  02-02-2008, 08:16 AM | #44 | 
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				 | hmmm if i owed a program this would be 100% ok with me as long as there's sales and the watermark on the pics and movies. i'm pretty sure most sponsors would ban the affiliate doing this though. | 
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|  02-02-2008, 08:18 AM | #45 | 
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				 | ONE update, and no more, ever I can understand, like a static upsell, and even then LOADS of site advertising all over it. MORE than one update. WRONG. On the outside specifically marketing using YOUR updates. WRONG. 2c 
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|  02-02-2008, 08:19 AM | #46 | 
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				 | That really sucks man and you're doing the right thing.  I was trying to figure out if they would get permission from a site to use a clip, then load up their members area with content from the site. 
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|  02-02-2008, 08:21 AM | #47 | |
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 When has things like this, EVER been acceptable? 
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|  02-02-2008, 08:27 AM | #48 | 
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				 | We are 100% not ok with it and we pursue anyone who steals our content. 
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|  02-02-2008, 08:31 AM | #49 | 
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|  02-02-2008, 08:32 AM | #50 | 
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				 | Well, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't on that boat by myself... get some second and third opinions. And, it was so blatant and right there that maybe other webmasters knew about it and were ok with it. 
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