New programing launching BUNCH OF SCAMMERS (My warning to anyone in adult) - GoFuckYourself.com

Satan · 01-25-2008, 08:05 PM

a guy on icq (name withheld for now) hits me up and asks me if I can integrate there nats and carma designs for them, so i quoted him a price.

He said that price was to high and he went away. this was a few month ago

so last week he hits me up saying that the company they paid fucked everything up and that now they need it fixed before next monday so they can launch there program.

He gave me a list and explained what needed to be done, I told him the things i CAN do and the things I CAN NOT do and we agreed on a price, when everything was done he needed a few more things changed so I changed them for him and then all the sudden he started throwing more things in the list and wanted it all done for the same price.

well i always collect 50% upfront to keep things like this from happening. well now he says the 50% he paid me upfront was enough and he doesnt wanna pay anymore because I didn't complete all the work ( the original list is done, except for 2 things that require he gets me the .fla file) so this is a warning that a company launching a new affiliate program are a bunch of scammers and thief's, this is there last chance to pay me before i post the name of the company and the employee

i even offered to cut the last 50% by giving them 25% off since they wernt happy that I wouldnt add all the extras for the same price and they still don't want to pay, so this is my thread on a company that hasn't even launched yet and they want to scam me out of money.

This isn't about the money to me because I do the nats coding on the side as a service that I offer since a lot of people have asked me to help them with there nats skinning, this is about the fact that if they scammed me after the work was done then they will find anyway possible to scam the affiliates or anyone they trade traffic with.

Mark_E4A · 01-25-2008, 08:09 PM

damn, not a good start

Satan · 01-25-2008, 08:10 PM

nope not at all

and i will be naming names, im giving them one last chance since they might decide to pay

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 01-25-2008, 08:10 PM

Drama foreplay...

ADG

D Ghost · 01-25-2008, 08:15 PM

Yeah name them, please! I hate clients who try and cheap you on some shhit and add shit to the list, and try not to pay the remainder of their bill...

tony286 · 01-25-2008, 08:17 PM

damn thats fucked up

G-Rotica · 01-25-2008, 08:23 PM

i don't get it. that's like saying a dude came in my house and ass raped my dog, but i don't want to give his name to the cops cause this is the last chance for him to come marry fido.

fucking name names.

Chef86 · 01-25-2008, 08:25 PM

I'll definately be watching this thread

stickyfingerz · 01-25-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica

i don't get it. that's like saying a dude came in my house and ass raped my dog, but i don't want to give his name to the cops cause this is the last chance for him to come marry fido.

fucking name names.

If the dude ass raped and "kidnapped" your dog it would apply here. The silence is done in order to have a chance at getting the scratch back.

st0ned · 01-25-2008, 08:29 PM

Throw the name out there.

Satan · 01-25-2008, 08:29 PM

the said they wanna pay now, im waiting to see if the money shows up if not the names are being said, but they want to pay me ON monday, I don't think so they knew the work would be done today they should of had the money loaded and ready to be paid like they said they would.

ninavain · 01-25-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Satan

the said they wanna pay now, im waiting to see if the money shows up if not the names are being said, but they want to pay me ON monday, I don't think so they knew the work would be done today they should of had the money loaded and ready to be paid like they said they would.

Pete I hope you get the money, you are a good guy that would help anyone

StuartD · 01-25-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica

i don't get it. that's like saying a dude came in my house and ass raped my dog, but i don't want to give his name to the cops cause this is the last chance for him to come marry fido.

fucking name names.

Uhmm... no it's not.

tony286 · 01-25-2008, 08:45 PM

I dont understand people who do that. Dont they realize you fuck someone people are going to find out and not want to do business with you. A man has only two things in this world his word and his balls and its best to keep both.

Imortyl Pussycat · 01-25-2008, 08:47 PM

wow, they are cutting of their nose despite their faces pulling such a punk move before launched even. you are way too nice a guy not to name them but that is just who you are. i hope that if you see any other threads about them screwing people over that you jump in and tell your story so no one else gets scammed. these guys will not be around for long is my prediction. you know i got your back if we need to kick their asses and teach them a lesson.

Satan · 01-25-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I dont understand people who do that. Dont they realize you fuck someone people are going to find out and not want to do business with you. A man has only two things in this world his word and his balls and its best to keep both.

exactly tony, and I know i wouldnt want to have either of those fucked up

Penny24Seven · 01-25-2008, 08:51 PM

3 sides to every story, hope it works out well.
By the way did you do the design on satancash? pretty sweet is you ask me.

Satan · 01-25-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hookers and School Girls

3 sides to every story, hope it works out well.
By the way did you do the design on satancash? pretty sweet is you ask me.

you like that one? wait till you see the new one

Juicy D. Links · 01-25-2008, 09:01 PM

give me their names , il make em cry

NOBODY FUCKS WITH MY FURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY FRIEND

BradM · 01-25-2008, 09:11 PM

Pete can you tell me privately who this is? I don't trust anyone who is TRYING to scam before they even get out of the gate.

Satan · 01-25-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Pete can you tell me privately who this is? I don't trust anyone who is TRYING to scam before they even get out of the gate.

hit me up, if i dont get the money in 5 minutes the name will be public

Satan · 01-25-2008, 09:22 PM

well i am being asked to wait till monday when they can load there account, I gotta go out im already 3 hours late to my buddies B-day party, see you guys later, i will keep updated

hateman · 01-25-2008, 09:24 PM

Good old blackmail

I like that.

MikeVega · 01-25-2008, 09:42 PM

out of the 10-15 different reasons this guy didn't want to pay the best by far was and i quote "I make XXXX a month to work 12 hours a day and on weekends, you worked a couple hours you dont deserve all the money" that alone would have set me off. Pete is a saint .. they laid out the job ..Pete gave a price .. they agreed and now they change their mind ...lol I think the guy will pay him Monday and i hope so but i'll be sure to stay away from a program that works that way.

hateman · 01-25-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Satan

well i am being asked to wait till monday when they can load there account

Dont be a sucker.

Spunky · 01-25-2008, 09:44 PM

Fucking weasel

AaronM · 01-25-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega

......"I make XXXX a month to work 12 hours a day and on weekends......

Tough shit. That's probably why you are trying to build a porn site instead of continuing to flip burgers 12 hours a day. Now you want to hate on somebody who fixes the problems created when you decided to take the cheap way out? Fuck you. I'd charge you AT LEAST double what the original bid was and make you pay it 100% upfront. We're probably going to find out that you fucked the other person over too and that's why your shit was not done right the first time.

Who the fuck does that asshole think he is?

Mike, if Pete isn't going to out this fucker then you should.

MikeVega · 01-25-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Tough shit. That's probably why you are trying to build a porn site instead of continuing to flip burgers 12 hours a day. Now you want to hate on somebody who fixes the problems created when you decided to take the cheap way out? Fuck you. I'd charge you AT LEAST double what the original bid was and make you pay it 100% upfront. We're probably going to find out that you fucked the other person over too and that's why your shit was not done right the first time.

Who the fuck does that asshole think he is?

Mike, if Pete isn't going to out this fucker then you should.

I know the 2nd quote was a bit higher then the original and they were busting balls about that. Pete really wants to give them a chance to stay true to their word but I have a feeling its not going to happen and even if it does I'm sure its not long before word spreads about how it was handled.

Juicy D. Links · 01-25-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega

I know the 2nd quote was a bit higher then the original and they were busting balls about that. Pete really wants to give them a chance to stay true to their word but I have a feeling its not going to happen and even if it does I'm sure its not long before word spreads about how it was handled.

we go skiing or what?????????????/

MikeVega · 01-25-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

we go skiing or what?????????????/

Vermont at the end of February .. your welcome to come up to the condo for the week ....

F-U-Jimmy · 01-25-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat

wow, they are cutting of their nose despite their faces pulling such a punk move before launched even. you are way too nice a guy not to name them but that is just who you are. i hope that if you see any other threads about them screwing people over that you jump in and tell your story so no one else gets scammed. these guys will not be around for long is my prediction. you know i got your back if we need to kick their asses and teach them a lesson.

Why o why do so many people get this saying so wrong

Its not despite its "to spite" as in

"Cut off your nose to spite your face"

AaronM · 01-25-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

Why o why do so many people get this saying so wrong

Its not despite its "to spite" as in

"Cut off your nose to spite your face"

Because the world is full of people who do not pay attention.

Satan · 01-25-2008, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Tough shit. That's probably why you are trying to build a porn site instead of continuing to flip burgers 12 hours a day. Now you want to hate on somebody who fixes the problems created when you decided to take the cheap way out? Fuck you. I'd charge you AT LEAST double what the original bid was and make you pay it 100% upfront. We're probably going to find out that you fucked the other person over too and that's why your shit was not done right the first time.

Who the fuck does that asshole think he is?

Mike, if Pete isn't going to out this fucker then you should.

Let me see what happens on Monday, if they keep there word or not, I have a feeling its not gonna a good day for a certain company when i hear more excuses.

munki · 01-25-2008, 10:45 PM

Sucks dood, best of luck resolving teh issues...

Imortyl Pussycat · 01-25-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

Why o why do so many people get this saying so wrong

Its not despite its "to spite" as in

"Cut off your nose to spite your face"

good lookin out, it's committed to long term now.

CuriousToyBoy · 01-26-2008, 01:00 AM

I usually treat many threads like this at times with somewhat of a grain of salt... generally because there are 3 sides to every story...

In this case knowing Petey so well makes the difference... he would take an ass-raping to make someone happy if he was doing something for them, and just his way would mean he would not be producing shit.

Hope it gets worked out.

2c

MichaelP · 01-26-2008, 09:07 AM

Sad to hear that Pete.

I hope you gonna get this fixed

Welcome to my world (designerwise)

Some clients are like this. The ask for AB & C, So you tell them it will be 123. After ABC and even D is done cause they add it along the way, they want EFG for free now...

Kind of client you don't need

Some have burned me to the point I don't want to work for them anymore... No matter how $$$ they are willing to pay, they are simply pain in the neck...

Juicy D. Links · 01-26-2008, 09:12 AM

they are a new company and such , and looking at the sites and initial way of doing business nless they have a arrmy of russian spammers sending joins they aint gonna be arond long.

Pay Pete you piece of shit ass wipe motherfuucker bitach ass or i will cut your doodle off and saute it in a pan then season it and eat it

drakoh · 01-26-2008, 09:25 AM

and people are wondering why we become more and more suspicous

LeRoy · 01-26-2008, 09:42 AM

it's funny how this keep happening. Watch this new program do a launch here on GFY and all the people who see the nats sign up quick. Nats is the affiliate closer tool

Tempest · 01-26-2008, 09:42 AM

Wish you would just name them.. Don't want to work with them after hearing this story...

hateman · 01-26-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by drakoh

and people are wondering why we become more and more suspicous

I love the "we" referrence

Who the fuck are you?

sortie · 01-26-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

Why o why do so many people get this saying so wrong

Its not despite its "to spite" as in

"Cut off your nose to spite your face"

"let Mikey try it, Mikey likes everything".

I think it all started with that one.

Satan · 01-26-2008, 10:04 AM

waiting till monday to see what happens, i just got an icq from there original designer and he knew exactly who i was talking about because they did the same thing to him and even asked him for a full refund.

hateman · 01-26-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan

waiting till monday to see what happens, i just got an icq from there original designer and he knew exactly who i was talking about because they did the same thing to him and even asked him for a full refund.

After reading all this, you would be an asshole not to out them.

Satan · 01-26-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by hateman

After reading all this, you would be an asshole not to out them.

relax let me see if i get any of the money on monday and then we will go from there

hateman · 01-26-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan

relax let me see if i get any of the money on monday and then we will go from there

So if you do get your money, you will just keep your mouth shut?

Satan · 01-26-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hateman

So if you do get your money, you will just keep your mouth shut?

who are you?

fuzebox · 01-26-2008, 11:53 AM

Ran into this a lot in my NATS days too... I'm so glad I don't consult anymore

Babaganoosh · 01-26-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hateman

So if you do get your money, you will just keep your mouth shut?

This is actually a great question.

Even if they do pay you then the fact remains that they had to be forced to keep their end of the bargain. That's a program I wouldn't trust. Webmasters need to know who these douchebags are.

01-25-2008, 08:05 PM	#1
Satan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hell Posts: 1,626	New programing launching BUNCH OF SCAMMERS (My warning to anyone in adult) a guy on icq (name withheld for now) hits me up and asks me if I can integrate there nats and carma designs for them, so i quoted him a price. He said that price was to high and he went away. this was a few month ago so last week he hits me up saying that the company they paid fucked everything up and that now they need it fixed before next monday so they can launch there program. He gave me a list and explained what needed to be done, I told him the things i CAN do and the things I CAN NOT do and we agreed on a price, when everything was done he needed a few more things changed so I changed them for him and then all the sudden he started throwing more things in the list and wanted it all done for the same price. well i always collect 50% upfront to keep things like this from happening. well now he says the 50% he paid me upfront was enough and he doesnt wanna pay anymore because I didn't complete all the work ( the original list is done, except for 2 things that require he gets me the .fla file) so this is a warning that a company launching a new affiliate program are a bunch of scammers and thief's, this is there last chance to pay me before i post the name of the company and the employee i even offered to cut the last 50% by giving them 25% off since they wernt happy that I wouldnt add all the extras for the same price and they still don't want to pay, so this is my thread on a company that hasn't even launched yet and they want to scam me out of money. This isn't about the money to me because I do the nats coding on the side as a service that I offer since a lot of people have asked me to help them with there nats skinning, this is about the fact that if they scammed me after the work was done then they will find anyway possible to scam the affiliates or anyone they trade traffic with. __________________ WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

01-25-2008, 08:09 PM	#2
Mark_E4A Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: pornSEO.com - Toronto Posts: 1,514	damn, not a good start __________________ icq - 205700725 email - marke4a at gmail com phone - 416-809-4393

01-25-2008, 08:10 PM	#3
Satan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hell Posts: 1,626	nope not at all and i will be naming names, im giving them one last chance since they might decide to pay __________________ WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

01-25-2008, 08:10 PM	#4
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01-25-2008, 08:23 PM	#7
G-Rotica Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,258	i don't get it. that's like saying a dude came in my house and ass raped my dog, but i don't want to give his name to the cops cause this is the last chance for him to come marry fido. fucking name names. __________________

01-25-2008, 08:15 PM	#5
D Ghost null Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,820	Yeah name them, please! I hate clients who try and cheap you on some shhit and add shit to the list, and try not to pay the remainder of their bill...

01-25-2008, 08:17 PM	#6
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	damn thats fucked up

01-25-2008, 08:25 PM	#8
Chef86 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,930	I'll definately be watching this thread __________________ I have my sites hosted with Phat Servers why don't you? ICQ: 541885

01-25-2008, 08:29 PM	#10
st0ned Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 8,437	Throw the name out there. __________________ Conversion Sharks - 1,000+ adult dating offers, traffic management, and consistently high payouts. We will guarantee and beat your current EPC to win your dating traffic! Skype: ConversionSharks \|\| Email: info /@/ conversionsharks.com

01-25-2008, 08:45 PM	#14
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I dont understand people who do that. Dont they realize you fuck someone people are going to find out and not want to do business with you. A man has only two things in this world his word and his balls and its best to keep both.

01-25-2008, 08:47 PM	#15
Imortyl Pussycat Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cali Posts: 5,449	wow, they are cutting of their nose despite their faces pulling such a punk move before launched even. you are way too nice a guy not to name them but that is just who you are. i hope that if you see any other threads about them screwing people over that you jump in and tell your story so no one else gets scammed. these guys will not be around for long is my prediction. you know i got your back if we need to kick their asses and teach them a lesson. __________________ Julie Larson julie {at} juicyads.com skype: imortylpussycat Buy & Sell Ads on The Most Sexy Advertising Network on the Planet available ad spots \| sign up now

01-25-2008, 08:51 PM	#17
Penny24Seven So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 6,287	3 sides to every story, hope it works out well. By the way did you do the design on satancash? pretty sweet is you ask me. __________________ Our site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and Penny

01-25-2008, 09:01 PM	#19
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	give me their names , il make em cry NOBODY FUCKS WITH MY FURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY FRIEND

01-25-2008, 09:11 PM	#20
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Pete can you tell me privately who this is? I don't trust anyone who is TRYING to scam before they even get out of the gate.

01-25-2008, 09:22 PM	#22
Satan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hell Posts: 1,626	well i am being asked to wait till monday when they can load there account, I gotta go out im already 3 hours late to my buddies B-day party, see you guys later, i will keep updated __________________ WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

01-25-2008, 09:24 PM	#23
hateman So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,623	Good old blackmail I like that.

01-25-2008, 09:42 PM	#24
MikeVega Porntrepreneur Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 12,788	out of the 10-15 different reasons this guy didn't want to pay the best by far was and i quote "I make XXXX a month to work 12 hours a day and on weekends, you worked a couple hours you dont deserve all the money" that alone would have set me off. Pete is a saint .. they laid out the job ..Pete gave a price .. they agreed and now they change their mind ...lol I think the guy will pay him Monday and i hope so but i'll be sure to stay away from a program that works that way. __________________ Mike Vega-ICQ:253868499-AIM:mikeydicevega

01-25-2008, 09:44 PM	#26
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01-25-2008, 10:45 PM	#34
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01-26-2008, 01:00 AM	#36
CuriousToyBoy Crazy Aussie Bastard Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my home. Posts: 16,787	I usually treat many threads like this at times with somewhat of a grain of salt... generally because there are 3 sides to every story... In this case knowing Petey so well makes the difference... he would take an ass-raping to make someone happy if he was doing something for them, and just his way would mean he would not be producing shit. Hope it gets worked out. 2c __________________ Celebs Adult Who's Who ==> Ambush Interview ==> ICQ 293 070 684 ==> intmarpacrim AT gmail DOT com

01-26-2008, 09:07 AM	#37
MichaelP Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: QWEBEC Corporate Office Posts: 7,124	Sad to hear that Pete. I hope you gonna get this fixed Welcome to my world (designerwise) Some clients are like this. The ask for AB & C, So you tell them it will be 123. After ABC and even D is done cause they add it along the way, they want EFG for free now... Kind of client you don't need Some have burned me to the point I don't want to work for them anymore... No matter how $$$ they are willing to pay, they are simply pain in the neck... Last edited by MichaelP; 01-26-2008 at 09:08 AM..

01-26-2008, 09:12 AM	#38
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	they are a new company and such , and looking at the sites and initial way of doing business nless they have a arrmy of russian spammers sending joins they aint gonna be arond long. Pay Pete you piece of shit ass wipe motherfuucker bitach ass or i will cut your doodle off and saute it in a pan then season it and eat it

01-26-2008, 09:25 AM	#39
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01-26-2008, 09:42 AM	#40
LeRoy Porn Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: It's a dry heat Posts: 13,341	it's funny how this keep happening. Watch this new program do a launch here on GFY and all the people who see the nats sign up quick. Nats is the affiliate closer tool __________________ JAPANESE CAMS AND CONTENT SITES Teams - leroy.rowland2 Telegram - @lroddd

01-26-2008, 09:42 AM	#41
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Wish you would just name them.. Don't want to work with them after hearing this story...

01-26-2008, 10:04 AM	#44
Satan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hell Posts: 1,626	waiting till monday to see what happens, i just got an icq from there original designer and he knew exactly who i was talking about because they did the same thing to him and even asked him for a full refund. __________________ WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

01-26-2008, 11:53 AM	#49
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,119	Ran into this a lot in my NATS days too... I'm so glad I don't consult anymore