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xroach 01-29-2008 10:24 AM

marijuana is not a drug, it's a herbal remedy for life.

hateman 01-29-2008 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyber-Hu$tler (Post 13713115)
Are you against alcohol being legal?

Why are you posting in lime color? Are you some kind of faggot?

WarChild 01-29-2008 10:27 AM

The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.

The new findings "were against our expectations," said Dr. Donald Tashkin, a UCLA pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years.

"We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."

Paco, of Large Cash. 01-29-2008 10:28 AM

so is speeding. I tried to use an easy one for you to wrap your mind around!

Breaking the law is breaking the law!

BTW:
If you drink pop (diet or not) &/or eat sweets (junk food) you'll become fat and get diabetes, and have a heart attack AND have a stroke.

If you eat at McDonalds (or any fast food place) you'll become fat (if you're not already) and have a heart attack and a stroke AND diabetes!

If you drink alcohol, you get Cirrhosis (liver damage), and brain damage and drink and drive and kill somebody.

And in case you are wondering, I do not smoke pot.

Yes, marijuana is illegal. And EXACTLY what is the fucking reason, genius?

Women voting was illegel.
Atheists running for office is SOME dumbass States is illegal.
It was illegal for a black person to own property!

What does that tell you about laws, other than some conservative fucking moron (past presidents) whose little mind was threatened by low vote count?

War on drugs ... bah hah hah... twat a fucking hypocrisy!
- Alcohol abuse kills more Americans than ALL drug use combine!
- Smoking cigarettes kills more Americans than ALL drug use combine!
- Obesity kills more Americans than ALL drug use combine!

IT being illegal only tells me those that set laws are fucking morons that refuse to move with the times!


The same morons that passed this law:
Section 30-1-3
Issue of incestuous marriages not deemed illegitimate.

The issue of any incestuous marriage, before the same is annulled, shall not be deemed illegitimate.

(Code 1852, §1945; Code 1867, §2334; Code 1876, §2673; Code 1886, §2310; Code 1896, §2840; Code 1907, §4880; Code 1923, §8994; Code 1940, T. 34, §3.

hateman 01-29-2008 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13713128)
You don't seem to have an issue with people drinking, what if people drink and operate machinery or drive and endanger your life? That's still ok because booze isn't a controlled substance?

Hey, why not legalize H, Meth and Crack while we are at it?

Moron.

WarChild 01-29-2008 10:31 AM

You know wha'ts funny? Although I don't advocate anyone do any drugs, I myself smoke more than 1 joint every morning. You know what I do right after that? I run 10-12km.

Now I'm not going to claim that smoking dope improves performance, of course, but ask yourself this question: How many of you non-smokers (Franck, Hateman, ...) think you could keep up in a 12km run?

CyberHustler 01-29-2008 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713172)
Why are you posting in lime color? Are you some kind of faggot?

Why are you avoiding the question? Are you some kind of hypocrite?

sortie 01-29-2008 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by article
"Cannabis use could already be responsible for one in 20 lung cancers diagnosed in New Zealand,"

So weed is 20 times as bad but 20 times more people died who didn't smoke it. :1orglaugh

cool1 01-29-2008 10:36 AM

Basically marijuana being made illegal had nothing to do with smoking it! It had everything to do with big business, DUPONT and MONSANTO and DOW, wanting to makes billions of dollars on clothing made of crappy plastic fibers = Polyester and Nylon as well as other products that hemp would have kept them from making as much money on!

hateman 01-29-2008 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paco, of Large Cash. (Post 13713181)
If you drink alcohol, you get Cirrhosis (liver damage), and brain damage and drink and drive and kill somebody.

Alcohol is not addictive, you retard.

Paco, of Large Cash. 01-29-2008 10:37 AM

WOW, Hateman!! I am guessing you did not chose your nic. Rather, it was given to you, for your ability to earn it so easily.

Now you have issues with homosexuality. This from a hateful insulting person whom works in the porn industry.

Go back to church, get on your knees, slip your skull under the preacher's frock and hum for forgiveness.

Fletch XXX 01-29-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713242)
Alcohol is not addictive, you retard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 13713063)
trolls often reply with statements they know not to be true.

Its one of the most uncreative forms of trolling for replies.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=803496

http://www.rentatroll.com

hateman 01-29-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyber-Hu$tler (Post 13713199)
Why are you avoiding the question? Are you some kind of hypocrite?

From this point on, you are on ignore list for being a fag.

Talk to the hand, idiot :1orglaugh

CyberHustler 01-29-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713242)
Alcohol is not addictive, you retard.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh You're an idiot

Paco, of Large Cash. 01-29-2008 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713242)
Alcohol is not addictive, you retard.

LOL!!!

Exactly what do you think AAA is all about?

It's not a support group for people whom have issues with agro people!

CyberHustler 01-29-2008 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713269)
From this point on, you are on ignore list for being a fag.

Talk to the hand, idiot :1orglaugh

What an emotional little bitch lol...

WarChild 01-29-2008 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713242)
Alcohol is not addictive, you retard.

Whoa, hold up champ, you've got it backwards.

Alcohol is physically addictive. Severe addicts suffer from "alcoholic shakes" ranging from mild to life threatening. YOU CAN DIE. http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/withd.../aa000125a.htm .

Marijuana, however, has no known phsyically addictive properties. :2 cents:

Brother Bilo 01-29-2008 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713242)
Alcohol is not addictive, you retard.

Man, you aren't even a good troll. If you're gonna troll, at least be funny with it. You suck at this dude. :helpme

spunkmister 01-29-2008 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13713212)
So weed is 20 times as bad but 20 times more people died who didn't smoke it. :1orglaugh

to be fair there are only like 100 people in NZ and about 300 million sheep so 20 people is a big chunk of the population ;-)

kowalsky 01-29-2008 10:45 AM

This is not true. Cancer is not a mathematical issue.

Of course any thing different than pure air produce something bad to your lungs, but to make a mathematical relation is a very stupid thing.

hateman 01-29-2008 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paco, of Large Cash. (Post 13713277)
LOL!!!

Exactly what do you think AAA is all about?

It's about retards like you.

You got to be a total fucking idiot and a loser to get addicted to alcohol.

I drink on occasions and never feel the urge to binge on it.


But almost all dopers can't go a day without getting stoned.

D 01-29-2008 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713242)
Alcohol is not addictive, you retard.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...tten-troll.jpg

Bryan G 01-29-2008 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713328)
It's about retards like you.

You got to be a total fucking idiot and a loser to get addicted to alcohol.

I drink on occasions and never feel the urge to binge on it.


But almost all dopers can't go a day without getting stoned.

"Alcohol is not addictive", gotta be the quote of the year :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

horvy 01-29-2008 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 13712621)
vaporizer.


:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

hateman 01-29-2008 10:59 AM

Look at all the dumb hippy stoners frothing in this thread!

Priceless

:1orglaugh

notoldschool 01-29-2008 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713242)
Alcohol is not addictive, you retard.

qouted for ignorance.

horvy 01-29-2008 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713242)
Alcohol is not addictive, you retard.


thats goin in my sig.

Paco, of Large Cash. 01-29-2008 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713328)
I drink on occasions..

..and are the poster child for why it too should be made illegal. You are as agro as meth, or crack head, that's coming the carpet for the lost rock!

You are a premature poster! You verbally ejaculate before your zipper is even down!


Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713328)
But almost all dopers can't go a day without getting stoned.

twat a sweeping generalization. I guess your not having any (real) friends in your life, as well your being total self-centered, means you do not have anybody close to you to see that that statement is far from true.


Uhm, exactly what did your parents do to you to make turn out like this?

I almost feel sorry for you.

Forest 01-29-2008 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13712542)
No no, according to all the stoners (who, in their own words, arent addicted, they just smoke all day long) weed is some kind of miracle drug which does more good than bad to your body.

while pot does have alot of medicinal uses it is far more destructive to the lungs then cigs.

pizzaid 01-29-2008 11:06 AM

cigarettes fucking suck!!!! I hate when people light up around me if you smoke i hope you get a fucking (HOLE IN YOUR THROAT)....

After Shock Media 01-29-2008 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cool1 (Post 13713241)
Basically marijuana being made illegal had nothing to do with smoking it! It had everything to do with big business, DUPONT and MONSANTO and DOW, wanting to makes billions of dollars on clothing made of crappy plastic fibers = Polyester and Nylon as well as other products that hemp would have kept them from making as much money on!

It had nothing to do with that and that is just tinfoil hat territory. It had just about everything to do with an issue we current have today, illegal Mexicans. Just back then at first we needed their labor so it was cool, then the depression hit and people wanted to make them take their asses back to Mexico. So they applied the same tax law that they applied to machine guns in order to make it illegal. Reality was though that the Federal Government wanted nothing to do with it and felt it was a state issue yet the border states forced it.

The Southern states forced cocaine onto the list by associating it with black men sexually violating white women, often by force. Which also was untrue. It was a drug that companies often gave to their dock workers so that they could have them work longer shifts without getting tired.

notoldschool 01-29-2008 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horvy (Post 13713445)
thats goin in my sig.

:1orglaugh It is a classic statement fo sho.

Bassmaster 01-29-2008 11:10 AM

http://tv.yahoo.com/show/492/photos/5

Drugs are bad MMM kay!!!:1orglaugh

After Shock Media 01-29-2008 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 13713474)
while pot does have alot of medicinal uses it is far more destructive to the lungs then cigs.

Again that is a statement based more on illegally produced Government propaganda than anything else. Medical studies showed even to the surprise of the performing doctors that marijuana had the opposite effect of what they figured. Lung destruction, increased cancer risks, and the like.

Just like straight untreated tobacco is nowhere as near damaging to you as commercially produced ciggerettes.

polish_aristocrat 01-29-2008 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 13712547)
speaking about lung cancer, anyone know the exact stats?


if a person is smoking a pack of cigs daily for a 30 year old period - how likely is he to develop lung cancer?

anyone know the % for that?

no one knows?

you can find stats on what is your risk of getting infected with HIV dependent on the sexual act with a HIV positive person, but there are no stats for getting lung cuncer after 30 years of smoking?

sltr 01-29-2008 11:15 AM

i wonder how big those joints were.

polish_aristocrat 01-29-2008 11:15 AM

hmm found some site:


http://www.ricancercouncil.org/cance...ncer-facts.php

Quote:

Overall, Americans have about a 7% chance of developing Lung Cancer at some point during their lifetimes.

SMOKING - Studies have shown that smoking is responsible for 90% OF ALL LUNG CANCER CASES

Lung Cancer is a very difficult disease to treat and is often not diagnosed until it is in a later stage. It is possible for Lung Cancer to be treated, but in many cases the cancer is too far along to be completely removed. The national five-year survival rate after diagnosis of Lung Cancer is 11-14%
:(

WarChild 01-29-2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 13713524)
no one knows?

you can find stats on what is your risk of getting infected with HIV dependent on the sexual act with a HIV positive person, but there are no stats for getting lung cuncer after 30 years of smoking?

How do you get HIV? You are either infected with the virus or you are not.

Cancer, on the other hand, can not be broken down that easily. Genetics, enviroment, lifestyle and other factors all play an important roll.

BlackCrayon 01-29-2008 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13713242)
Alcohol is not addictive, you retard.

You have obviously never seen someone go through alcohol withdrawl. Its not pretty.

Forest 01-29-2008 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 13713516)
Again that is a statement based more on illegally produced Government propaganda than anything else. Medical studies showed even to the surprise of the performing doctors that marijuana had the opposite effect of what they figured. Lung destruction, increased cancer risks, and the like.

Just like straight untreated tobacco is nowhere as near damaging to you as commercially produced ciggerettes.

Im am speaking from personal experience.

I was a 24/7 smoker of killer green bud for 20+ years. Since quitting my lung capacity and function has increased dramatically according to my dr.

I dont know what the government propaganda is about the drug. I do believe it should be legalized but I do believe its more harmfull then cigs.


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