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12clicks · 01-27-2008, 06:17 PM

don't bitch when your check is a day or two late. Seriously, even if it isn't true, at least PRETEND you're not spending every single penny you make and can't survive if your payment doesn't come the exact day you expect it.
at least pretend your a business person!
One of the most important things you can do to be taken seriously is to act seriously.

testpie · 01-27-2008, 06:19 PM

How's about if you haven't got enough sales to get a cheque?

hateman · 01-27-2008, 06:21 PM

Boobs · 01-27-2008, 06:21 PM

money is money.
if its late i'd be pissed too

dropped9 · 01-27-2008, 06:25 PM

Thats along the lines of

Think Like A Millionaire, Act Like One

VicD · 01-27-2008, 06:28 PM

Nobody is bitching if the checks are on time...seriously

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vicd

Nobody is bitching if the checks are on time...seriously

when you've never mailed a check to someone but start determining what "on time" is, you're seen as a fool by those who have mailed checks.

tony286 · 01-27-2008, 06:44 PM

I hate the mail.It's worth paying to get wires.

DateDoc · 01-27-2008, 06:45 PM

As a business, if you promise to mail checks on a certain day make sure it gets done. Don't PRETEND the checks were sent out when they were not. And PLEASE make sure there is enough money in the account to cover them.

CarlosTheGaucho · 01-27-2008, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

don't bitch when your check is a day or two late. Seriously, even if it isn't true, at least PRETEND you're not spending every single penny you make and can't survive if your payment doesn't come the exact day you expect it.
at least pretend your a business person!
One of the most important things you can do to be taken seriously is to act seriously.

I agree, it tells a bit about how does a person deal off the boards.

Well something that's not spoken about is that many actually DON'T have a life off the boards, so they probably feel this as a natural way of expression.

I had a chance to experience in person an "adult webmaster" who lives in his wild cyberworld and it seriously scared me off, the guy was serioiusly not capable of an offline interaction - a very pathetic scenery that gave me a whole different view on many things that happen on the boards..

96ukssob · 01-27-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I hate the mail.It's worth paying to get wires.

for sure. half the time i have to look in the "outgoing" mail because the mail delivery person puts my mail in someone elses box

WiredGuy · 01-27-2008, 06:50 PM

I don't cash my checks until the day before they expire just to make sure it seems we have no cash flow problems. LOL
WG

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc

As a business, if you promise to mail checks on a certain day make sure it gets done. Don't PRETEND the checks were sent out when they were not. And PLEASE make sure there is enough money in the account to cover them.

I'm sure you're just trying out your bigboy voice so I'll go easy on you.
#1 legitimate programs don't pretend to send checks. If you are using such programs, you deserve what you get and should still not embarrass yourself by asking publicly where your check from adultProgamHereToday&GoneTomorrow.com is.
#2 legit programs can always cover their expenses. re-read #1

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I don't cash my checks until the day before they expire just to make sure it seems we have no cash flow problems. LOL
WG

oh yeah, I don't cash them until they call me and ask me too because its messing up their book keeping just so I can seem cooler than you.

DateDoc · 01-27-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I'm sure you're just trying out your bigboy voice so I'll go easy on you.
#1 legitimate programs don't pretend to send checks. If you are using such programs, you deserve what you get and should still not embarrass yourself by asking publicly where your check from adultProgamHereToday&GoneTomorrow.com is.
#2 legit programs can always cover their expenses. re-read #1

My post was not directed towards you but was merely some advice to people who run a business. There have been a number of "BIG" companies that have bounced checks. Sure mistakes can happen but bouncing a check to someone for services rendered has to be about the worst thing, short of not paying them at all, that you can do business wise.

Iron Fist · 01-27-2008, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I don't cash my checks until the day before they expire just to make sure it seems we have no cash flow problems. LOL
WG

Sly · 01-27-2008, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc

My post was not directed towards you but was merely some advice to people who run a business. There have been a number of "BIG" companies that have bounced checks. Sure mistakes can happen but bouncing a check to someone for services rendered has to be about the worst thing, short of not paying them at all, that you can do business wise.

I've received a couple bounced checks over the years... it was never because of lack of money. It was always banking issues. Switching banks, changing accounts, etc.

Yes, getting a bounced check is a pain in the ass... but if the company takes care of it right away and it wasn't their fault to begin with, the only thing it says about said company is that they take care of business.

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc

My post was not directed towards you but was merely some advice to people who run a business. There have been a number of "BIG" companies that have bounced checks. Sure mistakes can happen but bouncing a check to someone for services rendered has to be about the worst thing, short of not paying them at all, that you can do business wise.

there have NOT been a number of big companies that have bounced checks.
Son, just stop typing because I'll just make you back up your lies, you won't be able to, you'll get embarrassed, and then wonder why you bothered. save yourself the touble.

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I've received a couple bounced checks over the years... it was never because of lack of money. It was always banking issues. Switching banks, changing accounts, etc.

Yes, getting a bounced check is a pain in the ass... but if the company takes care of it right away and it wasn't their fault to begin with, the only thing it says about said company is that they take care of business.

a much more accurate statement than the "make sure there is enough money in the account" statement.

notoldschool · 01-27-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

there have NOT been a number of big companies that have bounced checks.
Son, just stop typing because I'll just make you back up your lies, you won't be able to, you'll get embarrassed, and then wonder why you bothered. save yourself the touble.

You have a running log of every programs accounting? Because if not I think you are the one making assumptions.

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

You have a running log of every programs accounting? Because if not I think you are the one making assumptions.

son, I assure you, my assumptions are worth quite a bit more than ALL of your knowledge.

either choose to take my advice, or do what all of your predecessors who are no longer here did and scoff.

pocketkangaroo · 01-27-2008, 07:09 PM

I might be the luckiest fucker on this board, but I've yet to have a company bounce a check on me. Sure I've had a couple fly-by-night companies disappear without paying, but none that wrote a check that didn't go through. In fact, I haven't had one "big" company miss a payment to me yet either. Even had Adult Elite contact me directly when my checks were getting sent back to them because I had written the wrong address down.

I'll also add, if you're doing over 1k a period with a company, you should ask for a free wire transfer. I don't know of any company that won't do that for you.

Sly · 01-27-2008, 07:10 PM

I would like to add... if a company was really out of money, why would they send checks? Bouncing checks costs money, quite a bit of money. No sane company in their right mind would send out checks that they knew were going to bounce. Not only would they have to pay fees that they could incur from their bank, but they would also have to pay for fees that the affiliates incur at their banks. That's a lot of wasted money.

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I would like to add... if a company was really out of money, why would they send checks? Bouncing checks costs money, quite a bit of money. No sane company in their right mind would send out checks that they knew were going to bounce. Not only would they have to pay fees that they could incur from their bank, but they would also have to pay for fees that the affiliates incur at their banks. That's a lot of wasted money.

not to mention writing bad checks is a crime.

DateDoc · 01-27-2008, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

there have NOT been a number of big companies that have bounced checks.
Son, just stop typing because I'll just make you back up your lies, you won't be able to, you'll get embarrassed, and then wonder why you bothered. save yourself the touble.

I will be able to back up my facts, I will not get embarrassed and it is no trouble.

notoldschool · 01-27-2008, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

son, I assure you, my assumptions are worth quite a bit more than ALL of your knowledge.

either choose to take my advice, or do what all of your predecessors who are no longer here did and scoff.

Your such a tool. My third largest paysite gets more traffic than your entire program. Stop acting like a big shot and get back to work.

RudeBoy · 01-27-2008, 07:15 PM

Meow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DateDoc · 01-27-2008, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I've received a couple bounced checks over the years... it was never because of lack of money. It was always banking issues. Switching banks, changing accounts, etc.

Yes, getting a bounced check is a pain in the ass... but if the company takes care of it right away and it wasn't their fault to begin with, the only thing it says about said company is that they take care of business.

Switching banks and changing accounts are not a bank issue. They are the account holder's issue. If they switch banks they should keep enough money in the old bank to cover outstanding checks. If they change the account they use there should be enough money in the old account to cover all outstanding checks written on it.

LiveDose · 01-27-2008, 07:16 PM

I currently get 11 clicks a day (on a good day). Pretty soon I'll be pimpin. 1 more click...

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc

I will be able to back up my facts, I will not get embarrassed and it is no trouble.

then please list the large programs who have bounced checks because they didn't have enough money in the account and make sure its a number.
I'll sit right here and aweait your facts.

ADL Colin · 01-27-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

My third largest paysite gets more traffic than your entire program.

Let me add to "12 clicks" advice.

2. count dollars, not traffic.

notoldschool · 01-27-2008, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADL Colin

Let me add to "12 clicks" advice.

2. count dollars, not traffic.

Might be the dumbest thing I have read on this board. Seriously, you are just a rep right? Im surely hoping so.

ADL Colin · 01-27-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

oh yeah, I don't cash them until they call me and ask me too because its messing up their book keeping just so I can seem cooler than you.

Damn you guys. I cash mine on the first day to start collecting interest.

cherrylula · 01-27-2008, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

don't bitch when your check is a day or two late. Seriously, even if it isn't true, at least PRETEND you're not spending every single penny you make and can't survive if your payment doesn't come the exact day you expect it.
at least pretend your a business person!
One of the most important things you can do to be taken seriously is to act seriously.

Such sound advice.

On that note, an 18 wheeler mail truck crashed and burned on the I-10 on the way here the other day, and no mail was recovered. I am still wondering if any of my checks were in there too.

article link for those who care, it was heading to the south.

Wouldn't that scenario make one dumb ass complaint? Blaming a company when your check caught on fire on the way. It happens!

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Your such a tool. My third largest paysite gets more traffic than your entire program. Stop acting like a big shot and get back to work.

amazing the outlandish claims you can make when you're anon.

Socks · 01-27-2008, 07:24 PM

While we're on the subject of checks, what do you guys use to print and mail your checks? Some sort of software, or an accounting program? Curious..

I recently got a signed blank check from a sponsor.. thanks! ;)

DateDoc · 01-27-2008, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

then please list the large programs who have bounced checks because they didn't have enough money in the account and make sure its a number.
I'll sit right here and aweait your facts.

You can see two big programs listed in this thread: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=bounced

notoldschool · 01-27-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

amazing the outlandish claims you can make when you're anon.

Even if I was lying, it still doesnt change the fact you act like your some hot shit, yet you get less traffic than a small tgp. And thats your entire network. Stop acting like a big asshole and you might get some affiliates who actually have traffic.

Socks · 01-27-2008, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

then please list the large programs who have bounced checks because they didn't have enough money in the account and make sure its a number.
I'll sit right here and aweait your facts.

In the last 3 months, I've had checks from Gamma Cash and Sweet Money bounce as far as I remember.. We get them from time to time.. I don't mind the small aggravation, it happens, people make mistakes, I never bitch and complain..

Gamma was nice enough to send us a warning message saying a bad check was perhaps on its way too.

Cory W · 01-27-2008, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADL Colin

Let me add to "12 clicks" advice.

2. count dollars, not traffic.

Your post will go completely unnoticed.

DateDoc · 01-27-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Gamma was nice enough to send us a warning message saying a bad check was perhaps on its way too.

That is how a solid business deals with their affiliates when they screw up. They know before you do if a check bounces and they were proactive. Kudos to them.

MattO · 01-27-2008, 07:32 PM

I think I have a Raw Like Sushi check I haven't cashed yet

Sly · 01-27-2008, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool

Might be the dumbest thing I have read on this board. Seriously, you are just a rep right? Im surely hoping so.

How exactly was that statement dumb?

Traffic does not pay bills. Money does.

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool

Even if I was lying, it still doesnt change the fact you act like your some hot shit, yet you get less traffic than a small tgp. And thats your entire network. Stop acting like a big asshole and you might get some affiliates who actually have traffic.

hahaha, here's a clue son, my worst year in this biz was never as bad as your best.
while its funny watching guys like you attempt to give advice to your betters, I can't imagine you're going for funny.

Socks · 01-27-2008, 07:35 PM

Honestly 12 clicks, if you had as much money as you go on about, you'd spend $10 and get a new banner.. ;)

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Your post will go completely unnoticed.

well, this is GFY after all. the home of pretenders and $20.00 a week geniuses

notoldschool · 01-27-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

hahaha, here's a clue son, my worst year in this biz was never as bad as your best.
while its funny watching guys like you attempt to give advice to your betters, I can't imagine you're going for funny.

Even if that was true, it still doesnt nullify my previous statements.

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Honestly 12 clicks, if you had as much money as you go on about, you'd spend $10 and get a new banner.. ;)

the banner is a reminder to my old friends of how much money I made them. Its an inside joke lost on newbs.

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Even if that was true, it still doesnt nullify my previous statements.

son, who's paying your statements any mind when I'm talking?

notoldschool · 01-27-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

son, who's paying your statements any mind when I'm talking?

Ron Paul sent me to make you look like a fool.

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pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I might be the luckiest fucker on this board, but I've yet to have a company bounce a check on me. Sure I've had a couple fly-by-night companies disappear without paying, but none that wrote a check that didn't go through. In fact, I haven't had one "big" company miss a payment to me yet either. Even had Adult Elite contact me directly when my checks were getting sent back to them because I had written the wrong address down. I'll also add, if you're doing over 1k a period with a company, you should ask for a free wire transfer. I don't know of any company that won't do that for you. Last edited by pocketkangaroo; 01-27-2008 at 07:11 PM..

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12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,800	a piece of business advice from someone who started with 12clicks a day don't bitch when your check is a day or two late. Seriously, even if it isn't true, at least PRETEND you're not spending every single penny you make and can't survive if your payment doesn't come the exact day you expect it. at least pretend your a business person! One of the most important things you can do to be taken seriously is to act seriously. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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01-27-2008, 07:35 PM	#45
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Honestly 12 clicks, if you had as much money as you go on about, you'd spend $10 and get a new banner.. ;)