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ADL Colin · 01-28-2008, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

Colin,
we all mellow with age
;)

BTW, did you KNOW the painting was Pollock, or was it a lucky coinsedence?

coincidence.

Good flick. Have you seen it? You'd like it.

Zango · 01-28-2008, 06:29 AM

I love the guys who CRY about a $63.83 check and make threats to out you to everyone on the boards, only to find out THEY put the wrong mailing address on the form when they signed up.

You tools should stick to taking orders are Burger King.

NoComments · 01-28-2008, 06:29 AM

of course I did and enjoyed it tremendously! Anything else you've seen good lately?
Our latest very good discovery was Harakiri, 1966 Japanese movie

NoComments · 01-28-2008, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Zango

I love the guys who CRY about a $63.83 check and make threats to out you to everyone on the boards, only to find out THEY put the wrong mailing address on the form when they signed up.

You tools should stick to taking orders are Burger King.

Bad advice, I am still fuming over one's dork mistake who put mayo instead of ketchup with fries!

Quagmire · 01-28-2008, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

don't bitch when your check is a day or two late. Seriously, even if it isn't true, at least PRETEND you're not spending every single penny you make and can't survive if your payment doesn't come the exact day you expect it.
at least pretend your a business person!
One of the most important things you can do to be taken seriously is to act seriously.

I agree with you 100% on that statement, but had to make a funny comment.

Only in this industry could someone make a comment about acting seriously to be taken seriously and have a banner of a guy shitting gold coins right below it.

I fuckin' love it.

ADL Colin · 01-28-2008, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

of course I did and enjoyed it tremendously! Anything else you've seen good lately?
Our latest very good discovery was Harakiri, 1966 Japanese movie

Nothing really stands out. Apocalypto, but I'm sure you've seen that and it is a few years old now.

BTW. I really liked "Everything is Illuminated". I think you were the one who recommended it.

12clicks · 01-28-2008, 06:35 AM

all I've ever done in this business is attempt to deliver cross-media paradigms and scale 24/365 applications so as to target next-generation e-tailers who have an eye towards the adult market.
In that respect, we've been successful in synergizing sexy infomediaries and streamline front-end models and are now prepared to aggregate synergistic paradigms for the benefit of the entire adult market.
We now intend to benchmark innovative metrics in an effort to unleash open-source action-items to deliver 24/7 experiences to our online partners.
In this way we hope to scale innovative deliverables and harness cross-platform convergences as we move towards step three of our collaborative mindshare

NoComments · 01-28-2008, 06:36 AM

Apocalypto I couldn't finish. Historically the movie is a joke.
Everything is Illuminated" is a classic, the sound track is one of our favorite CD's.

Are you getting back to FL any time soon?
I miss our chess games.

12clicks · 01-28-2008, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

I agree with you 100% on that statement, but had to make a funny comment.

Only in this industry could someone make a comment about acting seriously to be taken seriously and have a banner of a guy shitting gold coins right below it.

I fuckin' love it.

dude, there's one hard and fast rule in this business.
ass makes coin.

NoComments · 01-28-2008, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

all I've ever done in this business is attempt to deliver cross-media paradigms and scale 24/365 applications so as to target next-generation e-tailers who have an eye towards the adult market.
In that respect, we've been successful in synergizing sexy infomediaries and streamline front-end models and are now prepared to aggregate synergistic paradigms for the benefit of the entire adult market.
We now intend to benchmark innovative metrics in an effort to unleash open-source action-items to deliver 24/7 experiences to our online partners.
In this way we hope to scale innovative deliverables and harness cross-platform convergences as we move towards step three of our collaborative mindshare

Finally somebody speaks my language I can understand.

testpie · 01-28-2008, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by comeplay

the turn this thread has made is just funny seeing as 12clicks' other thread about racists and all the shit talking etc on this board

When exactly did this thread go from being about 12clicks telling kids not to complain to a full-scale bro-argument-orgy?

And more to the point, how shit am I if my sig, in prime place of post #2, still hasn't generated me any money?

Fletch XXX · 01-28-2008, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

dude, there's one hard and fast rule in this business.
ass makes coin.

nice, - just registered www.assmakescoin.com

thank you

ADL Colin · 01-28-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

Are you getting back to FL any time soon?
I miss our chess games.

I'm in Central Florida again. I'll have to make it down. I haven't played chess since Kasparov game.

ADL Colin · 01-28-2008, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

Apocalypto I couldn't finish. Historically the movie is a joke.

Well, I wasn't expecting history. I finished it twice.

CDSmith · 01-28-2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasDreams

It's threads like these that prove we don't need the NFL for Sunday entertainment.

Sure enough, I leave home for one weekend this winter and that's when Ron decides to take his show on the road.

:D

Juicy D. Links · 01-28-2008, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

Are you still in New York? We'll be in NJ in April, wanna get together?

Yes!!! lmk when you coming

notoldschool · 01-28-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I've been owning/running programs for 10 years. never heard of you. I guess we'll just take your word for it.

I hope this is not true because I know more than ten amateur girls who dont know shit, who get more traffic than your whole program.

12clicks · 01-28-2008, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

I hope this is not true because I know more than ten amateur girls who dont know shit, who get more traffic than your whole program.

well have them look me up at the next show, I'll include them all for dinner and they can tell me all about traffic.

notoldschool · 01-28-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

well have them look me up at the next show, I'll include them all for dinner and they can tell me all about traffic.

I doubt you would listen.

12clicks · 01-28-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

I doubt you would listen.

and they said you were slow!

You missed the main point but you did grasp the theme

SykkBoy · 01-28-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hateman

LOL, everyone knows how these "testimonials" are born to life.

12clicks buys you a drink at some convention, and all of the sudden he's a BRO.

WTF??
Ron, we do business together and you've never bought me a drink at a show...wait...do I write the testimonial before or after said drink?

bah, fuck it, with the business we do together, we can afford our own drinks at APM...

stev0 · 01-28-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

oh dear, yet another titan of industry preaching from his mom's house.

Here's a little clue about respect, son. I'm not looking for respect from your kind. show up at an industry event where we business people meet and explain to me about this respect thing you think I'm so aware of

haha, see... exactly what I was talking about. You have no idea who I am or what I do, yet you assume I'm some guy living in his mom's basement? Your lame ass program would love to have an affiliate that does half as many sales as I do. If you've been doing online adult for 10 years then I've been in this "business" for just as long as you. I've never been to an industry event, why would I? I work online. When I go on vacation a bunch of webmasters are the last people I want to hang around with (no offense to most of you, some webmasters are normal people... but there's a bunch of fucking weirdos in this line of work too).

stev0 · 01-28-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

I agree with you 100% on that statement, but had to make a funny comment.

Only in this industry could someone make a comment about acting seriously to be taken seriously and have a banner of a guy shitting gold coins right below it.

I fuckin' love it.

hahaha, so true

12clicks · 01-28-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stev0

haha, see... exactly what I was talking about. You have no idea who I am or what I do, yet you assume I'm some guy living in his mom's basement? Your lame ass program would love to have an affiliate that does half as many sales as I do. If you've been doing online adult for 10 years then I've been in this "business" for just as long as you. I've never been to an industry event, why would I? I work online. When I go on vacation a bunch of webmasters are the last people I want to hang around with (no offense to most of you, some webmasters are normal people... but there's a bunch of fucking weirdos in this line of work too).

son, I know exactly who/what you are and the fact that you think a webmaster event is some sort of vacation speaks volumes.
now how about you just run along, hone your pretend game and come back next time with your big boy voice.

12clicks · 01-28-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

WTF??
Ron, we do business together and you've never bought me a drink at a show...wait...do I write the testimonial before or after said drink?

bah, fuck it, with the business we do together, we can afford our own drinks at APM...

Dude, I was going to ask you for a testimonial but I thought you'd end up gaying it up with that naked pic of you in the shower that shows up every time your name is mentioned.

SykkBoy · 01-28-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Dude, I was going to ask you for a testimonial but I thought you'd end up gaying it up with that naked pic of you in the shower that shows up every time your name is mentioned.

well sure, that pic always has to accompany testimonials...it's not that the pic itself is gay...just that it makes straight men question their sexuality ;-)

Fletch XXX · 01-28-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

well sure, that pic always has to accompany testimonials...it's not that the pic itself is gay...just that it makes straight men question their sexuality ;-)

while you are here, you did get that tour zip I mailed you right? Just want to make sure, if not Ill resend right now.

*launching a tour through APM for those who have been waiting for it.

SykkBoy · 01-28-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

while you are here, you did get that tour zip I mailed you right? Just want to make sure, if not Ill resend right now.

*launching a tour through APM for those who have been waiting for it.

Yup, got it and looked it over and everything looks good to go

Should be announcing it soon to our webmasters. It's a damn good looking tour. Great job, man

Fletch XXX · 01-28-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

Yup, got it and looked it over and everything looks good to go

Should be announcing it soon to our webmasters. It's a damn good looking tour. Great job, man

As I told you when we started talking about this, if all goes smooth, you can expect more from me, I needed to feel out the process and the requirements.

I can't launch tours through Pimproll anylonger (seems they stopped the byot thing), so you will have my attention

I definitely plan on more tours with you, cheers.

stev0 · 01-28-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

son, I know exactly who/what you are and the fact that you think a webmaster event is some sort of vacation speaks volumes.
now how about you just run along, hone your pretend game and come back next time with your big boy voice.

Speaks volumes? I've never been to one and I've done quite well in this biz so far.

12clicks · 01-28-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stev0

Speaks volumes? I've never been to one and I've done quite well in this biz so far.

well, we'll just go ahead and take your word on that.

NoComments · 01-28-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stev0

Speaks volumes? I've never been to one and I've done quite well in this biz so far.

How many millions do you make in thsi business on the anual basis?

I know 12 clicks is semi broke, he barely makes 1.2 a year nowadays. Do you beat him and by how much?

Snake Doctor · 01-28-2008, 01:20 PM

I learned a long time ago not to argue with 12clicks.

He drags you down to his level, and then beats you with experience.

notoldschool · 01-28-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

well, we'll just go ahead and take your word on that.

Shows how little you know about this biz. I would say the MAJORITY of people making real money have never attended an adult show.

The glaring proof of your non success with your program is that you think being a sig whore on GFY will somehow make your proggie a success.

Take your 5000 uniques a day and start a blog why dont u.

notoldschool · 01-28-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

How many millions do you make in thsi business on the anual basis?

I know 12 clicks is semi broke, he barely makes 1.2 a year nowadays. Do you beat him and by how much?

Hey 12clicks backing yourself up with your alter sig ego does not make your right.

Peaches · 01-28-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Hey 12clicks backing yourself up with your alter sig ego does not make your right.

Trust me, nocomments isn't his alter sig ego - nor is he backing him up

notoldschool · 01-28-2008, 03:12 PM

I must not have caught the sarcasm in his post. I really should pay more attention. ;)

NoComments · 01-28-2008, 03:28 PM

Backing, shmacking,
I just post the numbers.

When somebody who claims to make "real money in the business" barks on somebody who grosses roughly $100,000 a month,
I am curious about what barker calls as "real money".

Peaches, I was skeptical about 12 clicks progyy's success until I peeked at his numbers (no, he has no clue where and how, he didn't give them to me)

From where I sit, $100,000 a month in today's environment is not that chubby. Am I wrong?

DirtyProfits · 01-28-2008, 03:33 PM

What about interest rates? Every day you keep money you receive a % in interest rates and make money of other people's money.

Peaches · 01-28-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

From where I sit, $100,000 a month in today's environment is not that chubby. Am I wrong?

For someone who's in the biz as long as Ron and Robert have and having the program up at least a year, especially as hard as Ron's been working it, I'd honestly say $100K gross isn't that much to brag about and I really hope they are grossing more than that. I know affiliates who gross more than that. Heck, even Colin stated he'd received a 6 figure check from The 12. That's why I said you weren't really backing him with those numbers.

Just being honest. And remember, I've HAVE seen affiliate checks being sent out - I'm not just going by what they say they make. The affiliates are buying traffic with that money though, just like 12clicks' program is. Plus they have more overhead than most affiliates have.

$100K gross for a company or even program isn't the same now as it was back in your prime

NoComments · 01-28-2008, 04:12 PM

P, I don't gross 100k a month nowadays, so for me 100k is a "good number"
(assuming the profit margin is 50% ;)

Peaches · 01-28-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

P, I don't gross 100k a month nowadays, so for me 100k is a "good number"
(assuming the profit margin is 50% ;)

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to gross $100K a month - but I don't have a partner, employees, affiliates, designers, content or traffic to pay for

12clicks · 01-28-2008, 04:28 PM

I can't imagine where this info comes from but it can't possibly come from ALL the banks and processors I do business with.

but I don't mind people guessing.
I am surprised to see people thinking I'm working hard though. The arcade game mojo bought me for christmas whispers in my ear all day.

NoComments · 01-28-2008, 04:34 PM

Ron, don't guess, I don't reveal my sources
;)

You should know first hand -
if information is out there,
it can be obtained
:D

NoComments · 01-28-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyProfits

What about interest rates? Every day you keep money you receive a % in interest rates and make money of other people's money.

at what banks pay today in interest, all I can say, and I hope you understand Yiddish, even though the nature of your post doesn't suggest it:

AZOHEN VEY!

V_RocKs · 01-28-2008, 05:12 PM

I have to agree with you on this one.

notoldschool · 01-28-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

P, I don't gross 100k a month nowadays, so for me 100k is a "good number"
(assuming the profit margin is 50% ;)

I can GuARaNTEE you that 12clicks program does not come close to 100,000. a month profit. I doubt it profits more than 10,000.

NoComments · 01-28-2008, 05:24 PM

You can't guarantee and I can...therefore,
keep your mouth shut, learn from the elders and re-read FAQ regarding GFY signature rules.

Martin · 01-28-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

serge you still hold the rights to: ;-)

right?

and

;-))

Nickatilynx · 02-09-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

... ;-)))

Oi!!! Watch it!!!

I stole that off serge , don't you dare steal that style from me ;-))))

01-28-2008, 06:29 AM	#153
NoComments Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,957	of course I did and enjoyed it tremendously! Anything else you've seen good lately? Our latest very good discovery was Harakiri, 1966 Japanese movie __________________ ************************************* Give me the offer I can't refuse**

01-28-2008, 06:35 AM	#157
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,800	all I've ever done in this business is attempt to deliver cross-media paradigms and scale 24/365 applications so as to target next-generation e-tailers who have an eye towards the adult market. In that respect, we've been successful in synergizing sexy infomediaries and streamline front-end models and are now prepared to aggregate synergistic paradigms for the benefit of the entire adult market. We now intend to benchmark innovative metrics in an effort to unleash open-source action-items to deliver 24/7 experiences to our online partners. In this way we hope to scale innovative deliverables and harness cross-platform convergences as we move towards step three of our collaborative mindshare __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

01-28-2008, 06:36 AM	#158
NoComments Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,957	Apocalypto I couldn't finish. Historically the movie is a joke. Everything is Illuminated" is a classic, the sound track is one of our favorite CD's. Are you getting back to FL any time soon? I miss our chess games. __________________ ************************************* Give me the offer I can't refuse**

01-28-2008, 01:20 PM	#183
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	I learned a long time ago not to argue with 12clicks. He drags you down to his level, and then beats you with experience. __________________ sig too big

01-28-2008, 03:12 PM	#187
notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	I must not have caught the sarcasm in his post. I really should pay more attention. ;) __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com

01-28-2008, 06:29 AM	#152
Zango So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 511	I love the guys who CRY about a $63.83 check and make threats to out you to everyone on the boards, only to find out THEY put the wrong mailing address on the form when they signed up. You tools should stick to taking orders are Burger King.

01-28-2008, 03:28 PM	#188
NoComments Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,957	Backing, shmacking, I just post the numbers. When somebody who claims to make "real money in the business" barks on somebody who grosses roughly $100,000 a month, I am curious about what barker calls as "real money". Peaches, I was skeptical about 12 clicks progyy's success until I peeked at his numbers (no, he has no clue where and how, he didn't give them to me) From where I sit, $100,000 a month in today's environment is not that chubby. Am I wrong? __________________ ************************************* Give me the offer I can't refuse** Last edited by NoComments; 01-28-2008 at 03:30 PM..

01-28-2008, 03:33 PM	#189
DirtyProfits Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,885	What about interest rates? Every day you keep money you receive a % in interest rates and make money of other people's money.

01-28-2008, 04:12 PM	#191
NoComments Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,957	P, I don't gross 100k a month nowadays, so for me 100k is a "good number" (assuming the profit margin is 50% ;) __________________ ************************************* Give me the offer I can't refuse**

01-28-2008, 04:28 PM	#193
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,800	I can't imagine where this info comes from but it can't possibly come from ALL the banks and processors I do business with. but I don't mind people guessing. I am surprised to see people thinking I'm working hard though. The arcade game mojo bought me for christmas whispers in my ear all day. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

01-28-2008, 04:34 PM	#194
NoComments Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,957	Ron, don't guess, I don't reveal my sources ;) You should know first hand - if information is out there, it can be obtained :D __________________ ************************************* Give me the offer I can't refuse** Last edited by NoComments; 01-28-2008 at 04:35 PM..

01-28-2008, 05:12 PM	#196
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	I have to agree with you on this one.

01-28-2008, 05:24 PM	#198
NoComments Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,957	You can't guarantee and I can...therefore, keep your mouth shut, learn from the elders and re-read FAQ regarding GFY signature rules. __________________ ************************************* Give me the offer I can't refuse**