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SmokeyTheBear · 01-27-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

nobody said anything about big companies never bouncing checks.

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

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there have NOT been a number of big companies that have bounced checks.

carry on .. i'm sure there are a few people that don't know how to use a search engine that might believe you.

NoComments · 01-27-2008, 09:06 PM

Smokey, the company in your sig, is this yours or are you just sig whoring?

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

carry on .. i'm sure there are a few people that don't know how to use a search engine that might believe you.

hahaha, when you have to pretend not to be able to read to make your point, is it really worth it?

"there have NOT been a number of big companies that have bounced checks."

key word "number"

second keyword "idiot"

Fletch XXX · 01-27-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

*- Fletch, just for you and the old times sake.

nice

I'm a sucker for reminiscing

comeplay · 01-27-2008, 09:10 PM

the turn this thread has made is just funny seeing as 12clicks' other thread about racists and all the shit talking etc on this board

SmokeyTheBear · 01-27-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

hahaha, when you have to pretend not to be able to read to make your point, is it really worth it?

"there have NOT been a number of big companies that have bounced checks."

key word "number"

second keyword "idiot"

i bet if you blather on long enough some people might not notice that you lied and can't be a man and admit it.

i know it eats you up getting proven wrong especially by an old man.

fuzebox · 01-27-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

Ron, I don't care what you do or don't do in business, this is not my business, but I DO care when somebody uses my posting style and CAPS words the way I got used to doing in the last 7 years.

If you don't stop, I'LL SUE!

... ;-)))

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i bet if you blather on long enough some people might not notice that you lied and can't be a man and admit it.

i know it eats you up getting proven wrong especially by an old man.

don't try to save face on your way out, just go.

SmokeyTheBear · 01-27-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

Smokey, tell Ron WHY you believe Jews are God Chosen People

god just rolled the dice and the jews got lucky i guess

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and WHY you were refused conversion in Judaism?

funny story actually . you know that area on the application that says " do not write here", i wrote "ok"

picky picky sheesh, can you put in a good word for me..

pretty please

NoComments · 01-27-2008, 09:17 PM

Smokey, the company in your sig, is this yours or are you just sig whoring?

SmokeyTheBear · 01-27-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

don't try to save face on your way out, just go.

when in doubt use the old 12clicks "reverse the lie" trick, never admit to a lie even when its in bold print and you wrote it yourself, always deflect the lie to someone else, then ask a 12 year old for some cool names to call them.

i bet you didn't know i had the 12clicks handbook now did ya..

NoComments · 01-27-2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

god just rolled the dice and the jews got lucky i guess

funny story actually . you know that area on the application that says " do not write here", i wrote "ok"

picky picky sheesh, can you put in a good word for me..

pretty please

Are you impetuous or just being facetious?
We've all heard Smokey yammer and whine about how he's being scapegoated again, the poor dear. What is Smokey's secret agenda? I mean, the natural result of Smokey's refrains is an intolerance that, in the long run, tends to progressively enlarge and increasingly centralize the means of oppression, exploitation, violence, and destruction. As a preliminary, I want to discuss the relationship between three converging and ever-growing factions -- lamebrained, violent yokels, venom-spouting dunderheads, and ill-natured, wrongheaded drug lords.

comeplay · 01-27-2008, 09:21 PM

NoComments 1996 is calling they want their website back

TexasDreams · 01-27-2008, 09:26 PM

It's threads like these that prove we don't need the NFL for Sunday entertainment.

NoComments · 01-27-2008, 09:27 PM

After reading this letter, you will never again be able to trust Comeplay and you will see with crystal clarity the way that the drivel emanating freely from his mouth gives me cause to reach for the nearest vomit pail. To get immediately to the point, the pen is a powerful tool. Why don't we use that tool to punish those who lie or connive at half-truths? It is probably unwise to say this loudly, but if we look beyond his delusions of grandeur, we see that there is a format Comeplay should follow for his next literary endeavor. It involves a topic sentence and supporting facts. The bottom line is that Comeplay's fairy tales emblematize an increasing deturpation of cultural standards and a triumph of the meretricious.

Penny24Seven · 01-27-2008, 09:28 PM

you sit here and tell people who to act and you back it up acting like you are god LOL, this is to funny. I love threads where people bitch about a late check, it shows a lot about them and this thread shows a lot about you.

SmokeyTheBear · 01-27-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

What is Smokey's secret agenda? .

Smokey the Bear

A name that strikes fear into the hearts of woodland creatures. A name that makes the government think "those fools." A name that represents a bear takeover of earth.

Those, are primary theorys of what Smokey the Bear is really about. Those who think me a little freak, or SUP (screwed up people) will most likely be saying "Stupid little freak. He's about preventing forrest fires." And that is why I call you a freak. It takes half a mind to realize how false this ploy is. Again, I state a simple equation:

smokey = fire. fire + BEAR = FORREST FIRE

If Smokey stood for preventing fires, his hat might say "Water" or "Cool" or "My name is 'I don't like forrest fire's'" It would not be advertising them! And even if it were, the following NEWLY DISCOVERED (ie, didn't appear in my previous rant) PROOF THAT SMOKEY DOES NOT STAND FOR ANTI-FORREST FIRE'S would completely override it.

Smittologists, the leading scientific experts in Smittensland, have just discovered that humans are not as closely related to monkeys as previously thought. In fact, we might not be related to monkeys AT ALL!

Yes folks, it has been determined that one of if not THE closest relative of the human race is BEARS! And, I think we can all agree that humans are naturally lazy. That being said, it would be naturally asumed that bears are also one of nature's laziest creatures. Still don't see the evidence? Fine (stupid).

A bear eats living things, many a time a day. Therefore, as they don't have human intelligence, instead of rigging those rabbit traps with the circle on the ground, they chase their food. And, that would allow evolution to take place, and cause a bear's prey to become a tree-climbing animal. And, if you still don't see the proof, read on.

So we've already determined that bears are lazy. Therefore, they would not want to climb to catch food. And so, they would be much happier if TREES WERE BURNED DOWN AND PREY HAD NOWHERE TO GO! That being said, I end the "Why Smokey is a fraud" section.

So, one theory of Smokey's true-ness. SMOKEY THE BEAR IS A CIA AGENT. And, I shall breifly repeat previously stated proof for SUP.

Uncle Sam was a well-known propaganda tool. He had a hat, a fuzzy face, and pointed. All things Smokey does/has. Basiclly, Smokey is a future-day representation of Uncle Sam. Also, you might notice that on both the posters and the commercials, Smokey is ALWAYS pointing at you, no matter where you stand. Only the government has this type of magic. And, although it does not directly suggest that Smokey is a CIA agent, I will restate my equation, which I will end up doing many times throughout this rant. Or maybe I won't. But I probably will, because all of the line skipping makes this seem longer. But that chases away readers! Okay, I won't.

Smokey=fire Bear=Forrest Forrest+fire=forrest fire

Next theory: Smokey wants to terrify all the other animals in forrests into being his slaves. How many of you are thinking that I could not possibly have any proof for this theory? Many, I suppose. But I do.

First, he appears calm in commercials. This is to keep us from thinking him a sadistic tyrant. But we should know better! GRIZZLY bears have one of the highest kill rate a year (for bears)!

The other evidence is that if Smokey really is preventing forrest fires, which, since it supports this theory makes me not think as highly of it as others, then he must be doing it for a reason! Namely, having it as a tool. Think about it. If he stops us from lighting forrests on fire, he can threaten animals, saying he'll light thier homes on fire if they don't submit to him! If animals think at some point in time he has no control over all of their homes, they'd revolt!

The final theory I'll state now: Smokey the Bear wants to take over the world. Believe it, people.

"Mommy can I go in that room?" "No! Never!" Five minutes later, the kid is in the room.

When told not to do something, we all naturally want to do it. It's part of being a human. We can't avoid it. We posess natural curiosity of forbidden things. A trait an ingenius bear would play off.

Many things in life require a resource from a tree. Paper and wooden furniture for a start.

I'm sure this all sees like random bits of information. However, it is the evidence for the theory that I believe in the most. Smokey, being the diabolicdal genius, could realize our trait. He says "don't start forrest fires," knowing that it fills us with a curiosity to see what happens if we do burn down all the trees. Eventually, we might, if the commercials continue. And then?

Weakness. Death. This would happen to much of, if not all of, the human race. Leaving Smokey with a clear path to take over the world. Be afraid, be very afraid.

That being said, I offer a warning to all of you who aren't ignorant enough to dismiss this instantly: He knows all--beware him--he is not an innocent grizzly bear.

And now, I thank you for making it all the way through this rant. Good job. It will pay off in time.

A final word: Go now! Spread the word! Or we shall find a warped world, all because of a bear.

NoComments · 01-27-2008, 09:32 PM

Smokey, the company in your sig, is this yours or are you just sig whoring?

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hookers and School Girls

you sit here and tell people who to act and you back it up acting like you are god LOL, this is to funny. I love threads where people bitch about a late check, it shows a lot about them and this thread shows a lot about you.

son, I merely give advice.
some people take it, some don't. I'd tell you "see you in ten years" but you won't be here so why bother.

Juicy D. Links · 01-27-2008, 09:34 PM

i am here whats the dilly here?????????????

Robbie · 01-27-2008, 09:34 PM

Hi 12clicks, I just signed up for your program.

Get in touch with me anytime you want to do any kind of business.

Juicy D. Links · 01-27-2008, 09:36 PM

man i picked the wrong year to get off all my medication!!!!!!!!!!

Penny24Seven · 01-27-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

son, I merely give advice.
some people take it, some don't. I'd tell you "see you in ten years" but you won't be here so why bother.

LOL, I have been working in adult for 8 so I will see you in 10 years if your still working. I may not be here on this board but maybe your one of the few that think GFY is the center of the adult business

SmokeyTheBear · 01-27-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

Smokey, the company in your sig, is this yours or are you just sig whoring?

no why? are you interested in biz or just curious ?

NoComments · 01-27-2008, 09:39 PM

Smokey, I lost over 27,000,000 in stock market last month and looking for gainful employment...
how much can I make a month doing sig whoring?

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hookers and School Girls

LOL, I have been working in adult for 8 so I will see you in 10 years if your still working. I may not be here on this board but maybe your one of the few that think GFY is the center of the adult business

I've been owning/running programs for 10 years. never heard of you. I guess we'll just take your word for it.

DateDoc · 01-27-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

its simply amazing that I give a piece of advice and so many people who have left no mark in this business come in to argue with me.
hahaha, seriously.

ok, I shouldn't laugh. where else can chokey, notoldschool, and dockdate get attention?
on a chat board they can all pretend to be someone. Kinda doesn';t work at a show or other personal appearance.

I did not come in here to argue with you. I just stated my opinion which you chose to challenge. My opinion was not directed towards you but was sound advice.

If you are having trouble keeping up here is a play by play for you of the discussion. I really have better things to do than to keep going at this with you. Have a great evening and all the best to you. May your success be continued and even more profitable for you in the future.

-Doc

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Originally Posted by DateDoc

As a business, if you promise to mail checks on a certain day make sure it gets done. Don't PRETEND the checks were sent out when they were not. And PLEASE make sure there is enough money in the account to cover them.

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I'm sure you're just trying out your bigboy voice so I'll go easy on you.
#1 legitimate programs don't pretend to send checks. If you are using such programs, you deserve what you get and should still not embarrass yourself by asking publicly where your check from adultProgamHereToday&GoneTomorrow.com is.
#2 legit programs can always cover their expenses. re-read #1

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Originally Posted by DateDoc

My post was not directed towards you but was merely some advice to people who run a business. There have been a number of "BIG" companies that have bounced checks. Sure mistakes can happen but bouncing a check to someone for services rendered has to be about the worst thing, short of not paying them at all, that you can do business wise.

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

there have NOT been a number of big companies that have bounced checks.
Son, just stop typing because I'll just make you back up your lies, you won't be able to, you'll get embarrassed, and then wonder why you bothered. save yourself the touble.

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Originally Posted by DateDoc

I will be able to back up my facts, I will not get embarrassed and it is no trouble.

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

then please list the large programs who have bounced checks because they didn't have enough money in the account and make sure its a number.
I'll sit right here and aweait your facts.

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Originally Posted by DateDoc

You can see two big programs listed in this thread: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=bounced

12clicks · 01-27-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Hi 12clicks, I just signed up for your program.

Get in touch with me anytime you want to do any kind of business.

hey Robbie, lets chat in the morning on icq. I'm off to bed.

NoComments · 01-27-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I've been owning/running programs for 10 years. never heard of you. I guess we'll just take your word for it.

Not true.

10 years will be in May

Robbie · 01-27-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

hey Robbie, lets chat in the morning on icq. I'm off to bed.

Sure thing. Get in touch at your convenience. Thank you.

Juicy D. Links · 01-27-2008, 09:46 PM

Sergeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee u faggg i miss uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

NoComments · 01-27-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Sergeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee u faggg i miss uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Are you still in New York? We'll be in NJ in April, wanna get together?

stev0 · 01-27-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

its simply amazing that I give a piece of advice and so many people who have left no mark in this business come in to argue with me.
hahaha, seriously.

You try to convince people that you're important in every thread you post. Either you're compensating for something huge or you're way too infatuated with yourself. Seriously, you must jerk off to your reflection in the mirror daily.

Why do you always assume someone you haven't met or done business with is a newb, son, asshat, nobody, anon, etc? You being the owner of a new program, it seems to me like you're shooting yourself in the foot. You blow off people that control a hell of a lot of traffic and could have been potential affiliates simply because you "haven't heard of them". There are much bigger fish out there now than the few big fish that were around 10 years ago. Quick newsflash, most of the people you haven't heard of don't know who you are either.

You start a thread about professional conduct, yet you come off as the least professional person in every post after the first one. Important people don't have to try to act important or talk down to others in order to achieve respect.

ADL Colin · 01-28-2008, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

man i picked the wrong year to get off all my medication!!!!!!!!!!

28 days since your New Year's resolution. a perfect time to quit. ;-0

ServerGenius · 01-28-2008, 03:31 AM

Checks are sooo 60's

12clicks · 01-28-2008, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by stev0

You try to convince people that you're important in every thread you post. Either you're compensating for something huge or you're way too infatuated with yourself. Seriously, you must jerk off to your reflection in the mirror daily.

Why do you always assume someone you haven't met or done business with is a newb, son, asshat, nobody, anon, etc? You being the owner of a new program, it seems to me like you're shooting yourself in the foot. You blow off people that control a hell of a lot of traffic and could have been potential affiliates simply because you "haven't heard of them". There are much bigger fish out there now than the few big fish that were around 10 years ago. Quick newsflash, most of the people you haven't heard of don't know who you are either.

You start a thread about professional conduct, yet you come off as the least professional person in every post after the first one. Important people don't have to try to act important or talk down to others in order to achieve respect.

oh dear, yet another titan of industry preaching from his mom's house.

Here's a little clue about respect, son. I'm not looking for respect from your kind. show up at an industry event where we business people meet and explain to me about this respect thing you think I'm so aware of

hateman · 01-28-2008, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

its simply amazing that I give a piece of advice and so many people who have left no mark in this business come in to argue with me.
hahaha, seriously.

Why would anyone take advice from a failure like you?

ADL Colin · 01-28-2008, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hateman

Why would anyone take advice from a failure like you?

This is pretty funny cuz some of us in this thread have done some pretty good business together. "12 Clicks" has sent me 6 figure checks (no decimals ;-) ) Some of the others in this thread, well I've been to their multi-million dollar homes.

You think you can do an alexa search for a program's affiliate page and know whether someone is successful or not?

You should REALLY pay attention to what these guys think ...

DIG420, Fetish Bucks

I've been doing biz with the guys behind 12ClicksCash.com since 1998, and I know that I can ALWAYS send my traffic knowing that it's going to convert and I'm going to get paid on time, EVERY time. I highly recommend this program." - http://www.FetishBucks.com
J$TYLE$, The Content Store;

12clicks may come off as the biggest opinionated psuedo gay conservative douche in the adult industry, but he's always run a tight ship and paid like clockwork! In my experience, it pays to do biz with him!" - http://www.TheContentStore.com
Hooper, QuickBuck

Mojo & 12Clicks are two of the sharpest minds on the Internet and in our time of doing business with them we have always found them to be professional and straight to the point. I highly recommend doing business with these guys if you're serious about making money." - http://www.quickbuck.com
Brad Shaw, Sic Cash

I've known these guys for almost 10 years now. If you're going to use a program other than mine, use 12clicks Cash. Even if they seem a little effeminate" - http://www.siccash.com
Mike Strouse, Mayors Money

Aside from the constant homosexual advances, 12clicks is one of the few people I have dealt with in 10 years that I trust implicitly. There has never been a program he's been behind that hasn't been profitable for me to send traffic to." - http://www.mayorsmoney.com
Shemp, Shemp

These guys have always made webmasters money. I'd recommend them to everyone" - http://www.shemp.com
DaveS, Adultplex

Mojo was my very first webmaster signup back in 1997 and 12clicks joined shortly thereafter. We have done business back and forth for a decade now and I highly recommend their program. Also, 12clicks has a large collection of fancy boots, which is something I always look for in a person running a webmaster program." - http://www.Adultplex.com
Tony (SweetT) Morgan, President NationalNet, Inc.

I have had the pleasure of knowing Mojo, 12clicks, and their entire crew for upwards of ten years on both a personal and business level. They are some of the most honest and professional people that I have ever dealt with. They are one of the few companies who have ever been able to be successful in both the mainstream and adult arenas concurrently. I would not hesitate for one second to invest time or money into any venture that they were associated with." - http://www.natnet.com
Vooman, Natnet

I have known Mojo and 12clicks since 1998, back when I was a new webmaster who didn't know much about the Internet, let alone how to make money from it. They were willing to share their knowledge and help me get started, and that opened a world of opportunities for me. I have done business with them in the past and will continue to do business with them long into the future. They run a solid organization, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them to anyone." - http://www.natnet.com
Baddog, PR Adult

Love him or hate him, no one can deny that 12clicks is a long time webmaster with a history of success and a reputation for generating revenue. Check out 12clicks Cash and let his experience help you too." - http://www.PRadult.com
Jman, Tgpelite

I've seen this guy make webmasters a ton of money since the beginning of the adult net. You couldn't go wrong jumping onto his next program, even if he turns down my sexual advances" - http://www.tgpelite.com
Sheri Santiago, Wild West Cash

12clicks and Mojo are the best of the best. Classy, knowledgeable and willing to work hard for their affiliates. Cream of the crop." - http://www.wildwestcash.com
Odie, Live Cams Cash

From where I stand, 12clicks has always seemed to be a savvy operator who's succeeded with many things all across the net. This program should be a success too." - http://www.livecamscash.com
CDSmith, Cds Models

Being able to count on your payments arriving like clockwork and the fact that two of the most driven and detail-oriented people in the industry are at the helm is more than enough assurance to convince me to take on a new program as a sponsor. "12clicks Cash" has obviously been long in the works, not rushed into operation in the least, so I'm very excited to see what they've come up with in the way of promo tools and innovative sites that will pull sales." - http://www.cdsmodels.com/makemoney/
Minte, Bikini Page

I don't get too excited about business but the word on the street is that 12clicks and Mojo are really going to be back into running an adult program. You might not always agree with 12clicks politics but you will make money and you will get paid. That is unless you are a cheat. Then you will get flushed down the toilet." - http://www.bikinipage.com
chAos, Pink Pays

I've seen 12clicks operate since the early days. I'm excited to see him back. It can only be a good thing for our industry" -Sabby Van Ryan, http://nats.jaymancash.com/track/Mzk1Mzo0OjM/ I've talked to 12clicks about many aspects of this business. I've always walked away impressed with his ability to see opportunity. I'm glad he's back in adult" - http://www.pinkpays.com
Eric Matis, Adult.com

I have done business with 12clicks and Mojo for a long time. It is going to be great to have some more forward thinkers back in the mix of the adult industry" - http://www.adult.com

ADL Colin · 01-28-2008, 05:52 AM

original testimonials here. formatting sucked on the cut and paste
http://12clickscash.com/external.php...timonial&nats=

hateman · 01-28-2008, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

original testimonials here. formatting sucked on the cut and paste
http://12clickscash.com/external.php...timonial&nats=

LOL, everyone knows how these "testimonials" are born to life.

12clicks buys you a drink at some convention, and all of the sudden he's a BRO.

BV · 01-28-2008, 05:57 AM

this thread delivers

12clicks · 01-28-2008, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hateman

LOL, everyone knows how these "testimonials" are born to life.

12clicks buys you a drink at some convention, and all of the sudden he's a BRO.

now there's the kind of sharp business sense I wish I had

son, please never stop posting my alexa stats. It will only make me seem more magical.

12clicks · 01-28-2008, 05:59 AM

And Colin, do not get into it with the rabble on my behalf. I'd rather not have other business people get spattered with the mud meant for me.

ADL Colin · 01-28-2008, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hateman

LOL, everyone knows how these "testimonials" are born to life.

12clicks buys you a drink at some convention, and all of the sudden he's a BRO.

Please. have you ever had a drink with "12 Clicks"? He's the same ass in person as on the boards.

xclusive · 01-28-2008, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hateman

Why would anyone take advice from a failure like you?

If you're going to insult somebody at least do it with one of your own sites

OldSchoolJim · 01-28-2008, 06:13 AM

LOL....we are randomly treated to a 12clicks post...but an actual thread still brings out the trollwishers in force....i see all the usual suspects are here....

Except for the Serge appearance.....

hmmm.....12clicks...Serge...Colin......meeeemmmmmm oriiiiiiessssss

NoComments · 01-28-2008, 06:20 AM

Hi, Jim, how the hell are you!?

Are you still in Florida? When are we going waverunning again?

As for 12 Clicks, all I have to say and I will be brief:

I am writing on behalf of myself and a few of my friends to state that I don't expect everyone to agree with me. As this letter will make clear, I once overheard 12clicks say something quite astonishing. Are you strapped in? 12clicks said that he is always being misrepresented and/or persecuted. Can you believe that? At least his statement made me realize that his propaganda factories continuously spew forth messages like, "Anyone who disagrees with 12clicks is ultimately invidious" and, "The sky is falling". What they don't tell you, though, is that there's an important difference between me and 12clicks. Namely, I, for one, am willing to die for my cause. 12clicks, in contrast, is willing to kill for his -- or, if not to kill, at least to welsh on all kinds of agreements.

Difficult times lie ahead. Fortunately, we have the capacity to circumvent much of the impending misery by working together to shelter initially unpopular truths from suppression, enabling them to ultimately win out through competition in the marketplace of ideas. Because "anthropocentrical" is a word that can be interpreted in many ways, we must make it clear that the pen is a powerful tool. Why don't we use that tool to speak up and speak out against 12clicks? His goal is to use both overt and covert deceptions to win support by encapsulating frustrations and directing them toward unpopular scapegoats. How satanic is that? How untoward? How unctuous?

Please don't misinterpret that last statement to mean that ebola, AIDS, mad-cow disease, and the hantavirus were intentionally bioengineered by contemptuous blockheads for the purpose of population reduction. That's not at all what it means. Rather, it means that if 12clicks believes that individual worth is defined by race, ethnicity, religion, or national origin, then it's obvious why he thinks that he is the one who will lead us to our great shining future. I insist that the best way to overcome misunderstanding, prejudice, and hate is by means of reason, common sense, clear thinking, and goodwill. 12clicks, in contrast, believes that he is forward-looking, open-minded, and creative. The conclusion to draw from this conflict of views should be obvious: 12clicks wants us to emulate the White Queen from Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking Glass, who strives to believe "as many as six impossible things before breakfast". Then again, even the White Queen would have trouble believing that otiose, misguided twaddlers are more deserving of honor than our nation's war heroes. I prefer to believe things that my experience tells me are true, such as that I enjoy the great diversity of humankind, in our food, our dress, our music, our literature, and our forms of spiritual expression. What I don't enjoy are 12clicks's grotesque, effrontive protests, which use scapegoating as a foil to draw anger away from more accurate targets.

Although I can find only circumstantial evidence of misconduct and rule violations, 12clicks would have us believe that the rest of us are an inferior group of people, fit only to be enslaved, beaten, and butchered at the whim of our betters. Not surprisingly, his evidence for that completely splenetic claim is top-heavy with anonymous sources and, to put it mildly, he has a checkered track record for accuracy. I warrant it would be more accurate for 12clicks to say that by an odd twist of fate, what he is doing is akin to painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa. To say anything else would be a lie. He should stop calling me an unpleasant, obstreperous nutcase. Although I've been called worse things by better people, my goal is to get 12clicks to realize that we must put our religious and factional differences aside if we are ever to throw down the gauntlet and challenge his adherents to shine a light on his efforts to preach hatred. Of course, if he insists on remaining an ignorant, uninformed, and ill-informed dunderhead, that's his prerogative.

Before I move on, I just want to state once more that there is no excuse for the innumerable errors of fact, the slovenly and philistine artistic judgments, the historical ineptitude, the internal contradictions, and the various half-truths, untruths, and gussied-up truths that litter every one of 12clicks's essays from the first word to the last. I am entirely shocked and angered by 12clicks's contentious improprieties. Such shameful conduct should never be repeated. Of course, 12clicks confuses demagoguery with leadership and undocumented conspiracism with serious research. I say "of course" because we must tell 12clicks what we all think of him -- and boy, do I have some choice words I'd like to use. This call to action begins with you. You must be the first to bring him down a peg. You must be the one to turn 12clicks's quarrelsome exegeses to our advantage. And you must inform your fellow man that 12clicks sees the world as somewhat anarchic, a game of catch-as-catch-can in which the sneakiest scamps nab the biggest prizes. Because 12clicks is so caught up in trying to implement an inaniloquent parody of justice called "12clicks-ism", I'd like to conclude this letter by quoting to 12clicks the last line of R. M. Rilke's poem, "Archaic Torso of Apollo": "You must change your life."

ADL Colin · 01-28-2008, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments

Hi, Jim, how the hell are you!?

Are you still in Florida? When are we going waverunning again?

As for 12 Clicks, all I have to say and I will be brief:

I am writing on behalf of myself and a few of my friends to state that I don't expect everyone to agree with me. As this letter will make clear, I once overheard 12clicks say something quite astonishing. Are you strapped in? 12clicks said that he is always being misrepresented and/or persecuted. Can you believe that? At least his statement made me realize that his propaganda factories continuously spew forth messages like, "Anyone who disagrees with 12clicks is ultimately invidious" and, "The sky is falling". What they don't tell you, though, is that there's an important difference between me and 12clicks. Namely, I, for one, am willing to die for my cause. 12clicks, in contrast, is willing to kill for his -- or, if not to kill, at least to welsh on all kinds of agreements.

Difficult times lie ahead. Fortunately, we have the capacity to circumvent much of the impending misery by working together to shelter initially unpopular truths from suppression, enabling them to ultimately win out through competition in the marketplace of ideas. Because "anthropocentrical" is a word that can be interpreted in many ways, we must make it clear that the pen is a powerful tool. Why don't we use that tool to speak up and speak out against 12clicks? His goal is to use both overt and covert deceptions to win support by encapsulating frustrations and directing them toward unpopular scapegoats. How satanic is that? How untoward? How unctuous?

Please don't misinterpret that last statement to mean that ebola, AIDS, mad-cow disease, and the hantavirus were intentionally bioengineered by contemptuous blockheads for the purpose of population reduction. That's not at all what it means. Rather, it means that if 12clicks believes that individual worth is defined by race, ethnicity, religion, or national origin, then it's obvious why he thinks that he is the one who will lead us to our great shining future. I insist that the best way to overcome misunderstanding, prejudice, and hate is by means of reason, common sense, clear thinking, and goodwill. 12clicks, in contrast, believes that he is forward-looking, open-minded, and creative. The conclusion to draw from this conflict of views should be obvious: 12clicks wants us to emulate the White Queen from Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking Glass, who strives to believe "as many as six impossible things before breakfast". Then again, even the White Queen would have trouble believing that otiose, misguided twaddlers are more deserving of honor than our nation's war heroes. I prefer to believe things that my experience tells me are true, such as that I enjoy the great diversity of humankind, in our food, our dress, our music, our literature, and our forms of spiritual expression. What I don't enjoy are 12clicks's grotesque, effrontive protests, which use scapegoating as a foil to draw anger away from more accurate targets.

Although I can find only circumstantial evidence of misconduct and rule violations, 12clicks would have us believe that the rest of us are an inferior group of people, fit only to be enslaved, beaten, and butchered at the whim of our betters. Not surprisingly, his evidence for that completely splenetic claim is top-heavy with anonymous sources and, to put it mildly, he has a checkered track record for accuracy. I warrant it would be more accurate for 12clicks to say that by an odd twist of fate, what he is doing is akin to painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa. To say anything else would be a lie. He should stop calling me an unpleasant, obstreperous nutcase. Although I've been called worse things by better people, my goal is to get 12clicks to realize that we must put our religious and factional differences aside if we are ever to throw down the gauntlet and challenge his adherents to shine a light on his efforts to preach hatred. Of course, if he insists on remaining an ignorant, uninformed, and ill-informed dunderhead, that's his prerogative.

Before I move on, I just want to state once more that there is no excuse for the innumerable errors of fact, the slovenly and philistine artistic judgments, the historical ineptitude, the internal contradictions, and the various half-truths, untruths, and gussied-up truths that litter every one of 12clicks's essays from the first word to the last. I am entirely shocked and angered by 12clicks's contentious improprieties. Such shameful conduct should never be repeated. Of course, 12clicks confuses demagoguery with leadership and undocumented conspiracism with serious research. I say "of course" because we must tell 12clicks what we all think of him -- and boy, do I have some choice words I'd like to use. This call to action begins with you. You must be the first to bring him down a peg. You must be the one to turn 12clicks's quarrelsome exegeses to our advantage. And you must inform your fellow man that 12clicks sees the world as somewhat anarchic, a game of catch-as-catch-can in which the sneakiest scamps nab the biggest prizes. Because 12clicks is so caught up in trying to implement an inaniloquent parody of justice called "12clicks-ism", I'd like to conclude this letter by quoting to 12clicks the last line of R. M. Rilke's poem, "Archaic Torso of Apollo": "You must change your life."

Serge,

Whatever happened to "be pithy"?

NoComments · 01-28-2008, 06:26 AM

Colin,
we all mellow with age
;)

BTW, did you KNOW the painting was Pollock, or was it a lucky coinsedence?

12clicks · 01-28-2008, 06:27 AM

oh shit, there's a new dack.com bullshit generator out there?

01-27-2008, 09:06 PM	#102
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01-27-2008, 09:10 PM	#105
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01-27-2008, 09:17 PM	#110
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01-27-2008, 09:21 PM	#113
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01-27-2008, 09:26 PM	#114
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01-27-2008, 09:27 PM	#115
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01-27-2008, 09:28 PM	#116
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01-27-2008, 09:34 PM	#120
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01-27-2008, 09:36 PM	#122
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01-27-2008, 09:39 PM	#125
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01-27-2008, 09:46 PM	#131
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01-28-2008, 05:59 AM	#143
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01-28-2008, 06:13 AM	#146
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01-28-2008, 06:20 AM	#147
NoComments Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,957	Hi, Jim, how the hell are you!? Are you still in Florida? When are we going waverunning again? As for 12 Clicks, all I have to say and I will be brief: I am writing on behalf of myself and a few of my friends to state that I don't expect everyone to agree with me. As this letter will make clear, I once overheard 12clicks say something quite astonishing. Are you strapped in? 12clicks said that he is always being misrepresented and/or persecuted. Can you believe that? At least his statement made me realize that his propaganda factories continuously spew forth messages like, "Anyone who disagrees with 12clicks is ultimately invidious" and, "The sky is falling". What they don't tell you, though, is that there's an important difference between me and 12clicks. Namely, I, for one, am willing to die for my cause. 12clicks, in contrast, is willing to kill for his -- or, if not to kill, at least to welsh on all kinds of agreements. Difficult times lie ahead. Fortunately, we have the capacity to circumvent much of the impending misery by working together to shelter initially unpopular truths from suppression, enabling them to ultimately win out through competition in the marketplace of ideas. Because "anthropocentrical" is a word that can be interpreted in many ways, we must make it clear that the pen is a powerful tool. Why don't we use that tool to speak up and speak out against 12clicks? His goal is to use both overt and covert deceptions to win support by encapsulating frustrations and directing them toward unpopular scapegoats. How satanic is that? How untoward? How unctuous? Please don't misinterpret that last statement to mean that ebola, AIDS, mad-cow disease, and the hantavirus were intentionally bioengineered by contemptuous blockheads for the purpose of population reduction. That's not at all what it means. Rather, it means that if 12clicks believes that individual worth is defined by race, ethnicity, religion, or national origin, then it's obvious why he thinks that he is the one who will lead us to our great shining future. I insist that the best way to overcome misunderstanding, prejudice, and hate is by means of reason, common sense, clear thinking, and goodwill. 12clicks, in contrast, believes that he is forward-looking, open-minded, and creative. The conclusion to draw from this conflict of views should be obvious: 12clicks wants us to emulate the White Queen from Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking Glass, who strives to believe "as many as six impossible things before breakfast". Then again, even the White Queen would have trouble believing that otiose, misguided twaddlers are more deserving of honor than our nation's war heroes. I prefer to believe things that my experience tells me are true, such as that I enjoy the great diversity of humankind, in our food, our dress, our music, our literature, and our forms of spiritual expression. What I don't enjoy are 12clicks's grotesque, effrontive protests, which use scapegoating as a foil to draw anger away from more accurate targets. Although I can find only circumstantial evidence of misconduct and rule violations, 12clicks would have us believe that the rest of us are an inferior group of people, fit only to be enslaved, beaten, and butchered at the whim of our betters. Not surprisingly, his evidence for that completely splenetic claim is top-heavy with anonymous sources and, to put it mildly, he has a checkered track record for accuracy. I warrant it would be more accurate for 12clicks to say that by an odd twist of fate, what he is doing is akin to painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa. To say anything else would be a lie. He should stop calling me an unpleasant, obstreperous nutcase. Although I've been called worse things by better people, my goal is to get 12clicks to realize that we must put our religious and factional differences aside if we are ever to throw down the gauntlet and challenge his adherents to shine a light on his efforts to preach hatred. Of course, if he insists on remaining an ignorant, uninformed, and ill-informed dunderhead, that's his prerogative. Before I move on, I just want to state once more that there is no excuse for the innumerable errors of fact, the slovenly and philistine artistic judgments, the historical ineptitude, the internal contradictions, and the various half-truths, untruths, and gussied-up truths that litter every one of 12clicks's essays from the first word to the last. I am entirely shocked and angered by 12clicks's contentious improprieties. Such shameful conduct should never be repeated. Of course, 12clicks confuses demagoguery with leadership and undocumented conspiracism with serious research. I say "of course" because we must tell 12clicks what we all think of him -- and boy, do I have some choice words I'd like to use. This call to action begins with you. You must be the first to bring him down a peg. You must be the one to turn 12clicks's quarrelsome exegeses to our advantage. And you must inform your fellow man that 12clicks sees the world as somewhat anarchic, a game of catch-as-catch-can in which the sneakiest scamps nab the biggest prizes. Because 12clicks is so caught up in trying to implement an inaniloquent parody of justice called "12clicks-ism", I'd like to conclude this letter by quoting to 12clicks the last line of R. M. Rilke's poem, "Archaic Torso of Apollo": "You must change your life." __________________ ************************************* Give me the offer I can't refuse**

01-28-2008, 06:26 AM	#149
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