Was it a bad idea to raise my join fee now? - GoFuckYourself.com

Trixie · 01-24-2008, 07:45 PM

Our sites have been overdue for a price hike, so I finally committed to it with my new affiliate clean tour:

http://www.tastytrixie.com/clean/

(that is totally homemade by me so if you feel like critiquing it, keep that in mind)

Any thoughts on whether NOW (with recession fears / economic instability) is a bad time to do it? Should I have held off? Hmmmm . . .

Anyone thinking of lowering the cost of memberships or offering bargains to address people financial fears?

tony286 · 01-24-2008, 07:47 PM

How are your numbers compared to the past?

Sly · 01-24-2008, 07:47 PM

I am really having a hard time believing that two dollars is going to turn some horny guy away from porn. That's like keeping a slice of chocolate cake away from my dad... it just doesn't happen.

Trixie · 01-24-2008, 08:02 PM

tony: I just "unveiled" it yesterday so I don't have any data yet, and wouldn't really know if it was a problem with the tour design or the price hike since I changed both at the same time.

Sly: it was actually a $5 increase, but yeah -- I tend to think it's not going to matter. Just curious what other people's thoughts are, though.

Hell House Vic · 01-24-2008, 08:13 PM

looks cute trixie.
nobodies opinion matters. watch your stats and wallet to see if it was smart or not. that matters.

J. Falcon · 01-24-2008, 08:14 PM

I would love to get my mouth on those...

Trixie · 01-24-2008, 08:17 PM

Thanks, guys! Of course, you know the secondary reason I'm asking is just as an excuse to fish for compliments . . . I hate how long it takes me to do my half-assed designs so it feels good to hear nice feedback.

mike-al · 01-24-2008, 08:17 PM

I was going to say, depends on your price,
$19.95 was always a bad price for surfers might be like, there must not be much inside as to where $24.95 brings on more curiousity...

$24.95 was a good move, recession or not in my opinion.. btw, nice tits

Fletch XXX · 01-24-2008, 08:18 PM

Remember Trixie, you are either selling your price or the content. From what I have seen of your content over the years, its the CONTENT that you are selling, Delia and the "red" stuff, well - people should PAY a little more to see that, its unique.

I looked at your site, and I think if people want in, they will pay what you ask,...

Trixie · 01-24-2008, 08:24 PM

I'm glowing!

We recently made our sites all-access (except the red site, which we can't include because ccbill won't process it) so they're getting all of our sites instead of just one.

I do think mike is right that the cheaper prices lower surfers perception of quality.

TCAP · 01-24-2008, 08:35 PM

I would suggest getting rid of http://www.tastytrixie.com/clean/TrialMemberships.htm
if any surfer is on the edge of deciding to join or not, i definitely think the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs would push many toward the no-sale option. The way its currently worded, you're practically talking many out of joining.

Trixie · 01-24-2008, 08:42 PM

Yeah, I think a lot of my text is questionable/debatable whether my approach is shooting myself in the foot.

The reason I do it, though, is to establish trust with surfers. Honesty is part of my brand. Also, I think there's some reverse psychology there; no one wants someone else telling him that he can't afford something he wants. If a chick tells a guy, "honey, I don't think you can afford that" you KNOW he's going to be like, "oh yeah?? YOU HAVE ONLY MADE ME WANT IT MORE!" Deal done.

Iron Fist · 01-24-2008, 08:47 PM

Delia is CUTE!! MMmmmmm..... shiny boots.. MMmmm!

Trixie · 01-24-2008, 08:49 PM

Thanks!! I am a lucky bitch to have her as my girlfriend.

Iron Fist · 01-24-2008, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trixie

Thanks!! I am a lucky bitch to have her as my girlfriend.

No bloody doubt....

You gotta be the only girl i've ever heard of that thinks having a cute guy in a miniskirt is hot.

cherrylula · 01-24-2008, 09:38 PM

I love your sites, always have. The new design is great and my opinion is that you could probably raise the price even more in the future. Compared to what is out there your content is super unique, hardcore, and classy.

Honestly Trixie, I think you have some of my favorite content of any site online. It looks great! You deserve to succeed in a huge way chick, I know how hard you've worked over the years. I can't rave enough.

go Trixie!

Trixie · 01-24-2008, 10:16 PM

It really means a lot to me to read that.

(repressing urge to type hugs with all the cheesy parentheses)

cherrylula · 01-24-2008, 10:30 PM

awww ((((Trixie)))) hahaha gotcha

GITZINGER · 01-24-2008, 10:32 PM

May I please suck on your taa taa's?

jaysmoke · 01-24-2008, 10:34 PM

Wow...Hmmm. i think im going to sign up.

Trixie · 01-25-2008, 11:20 AM

Sign up to promote it or sign up as a member?

Inde · 01-25-2008, 12:07 PM

lovely tits

MRock · 01-25-2008, 01:59 PM

Hey Trixie ... I moved Jill's sites to 29.95 a year ago. Conversions are actually better. Go on ... do it ;)

NosMo · 01-25-2008, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I am really having a hard time believing that two dollars is going to turn some horny guy away from porn. That's like keeping a slice of chocolate cake away from my dad... it just doesn't happen.

NosMo

LFCII · 01-25-2008, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trixie

Yeah, I think a lot of my text is questionable/debatable whether my approach is shooting myself in the foot.

The reason I do it, though, is to establish trust with surfers. Honesty is part of my brand. Also, I think there's some reverse psychology there; no one wants someone else telling him that he can't afford something he wants. If a chick tells a guy, "honey, I don't think you can afford that" you KNOW he's going to be like, "oh yeah?? YOU HAVE ONLY MADE ME WANT IT MORE!" Deal done.

"Is my site the BEST porn site you can get for $24.95? I'll be the first to admit that NO, it is not. There are shitloads of great porn sites out there with more content, hotter girls, higher quality, cheaper prices, more hardcore, etc. If all you care about is a great bargain or if you are looking for the BEST porn in the world, then my site is probably not for you."

Hi Trixie,

Honesty is great and Honestly, I think your site is probably a little better than most. You do not get to stay in this business and make it a business since 2002 by not having good content, hot girls and high quality in the eyes of the beholder

IMHO

Kind Regards,

Les

fuzebox · 01-25-2008, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

the "red" stuff, well - people should PAY a little more to see that, its unique.

I looked at your site when researching red myself... From my experience you could hike that to $34.95 and it would still convert

sicone · 01-25-2008, 02:41 PM

Still cheaper then most sites

Trixie · 01-25-2008, 03:33 PM

The red stuff, unfortunately, can't be on TastyTrixie.com because of credit card/ccbill policies so that's not an angle I get to push when advertising this site. It sucks hard, but that's a rant I'll spare everyone right this second (though I did start bitching about it over in that "Kayla Kupcakes BLEEDS" thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=802088

No one even remarked on my bloody nun photo (which I love to pull out whenever I can).

HairToStay · 01-25-2008, 03:42 PM

I've always loved your site and your blog is my favorite blog to read online. I did love the old design, but this one is great, too.

$5 isn't a huge price hike for what you give them and for fans it's well worth the price.

"Genuine girl-next-door with boobs AND brains!!!"

Put that in HUGE letters on the new tour as it's true and will keep attracting new surfers.

And remember, I can get you "red" processing :P

Trixie · 01-25-2008, 04:27 PM

Thanks! I have a ton of hairy armpit & bush pics for promo, by the way -- I will try to make alternate galleries & zips next time around that emphasize the hair (I always mean to, but you know how it goes).

After losing my processing with Verotel for BloodyTrixie when they changed their terms, I've been reluctant to go through that ordeal again, and also am concerned about the way Hughes billing processes payments for digital content so that they say "tangible goods" on statements; that's kind of funky. I have the application printed out, and just keep sitting on it in part because I need to focus more on our other sites. I know I'm just throwing money away, though.

Elli · 01-25-2008, 04:33 PM

I love the new tour, Trixie! With the way you laid everything out (errr...) I doubt the surfers will complain at the price hike.

DebsDeep · 01-25-2008, 04:33 PM

When we raised ours it didnt make a bit of difference at all

Mr. Deltoid · 01-25-2008, 04:35 PM

Abandon your trial-explanation page entirely.

You're effectively persuading surfers not to sign up, which of course is stupid.

selena · 01-25-2008, 04:37 PM

With your content, your time online, house cams and the fact that member's get access to your other sites...

$24.95 is a steal.

Trixie · 01-30-2008, 01:14 PM

Thanks again for the positive feedback.

Oh, and I took down the links on the join page to those pages a couple of people thought were counterproductive.

virgostan · 02-01-2008, 06:25 PM

24.95 good price, classic

RevengeBucks_Monica · 02-01-2008, 08:24 PM

Hi Trixie,

I agree with the others that your page that explains why you don't have trials is convincing surfers not to pay for your site. You want surfers to buy on impulse, and to not think about their money. If they start to think "Can I afford this" you are going to lose them.

However, I think that one line from that page is fantastic: "While $24.95 might not be worth it to some people, I think it's a low price for someone to pay to gain such intimate access to me and my private life."

I think that's all you need to say on that issue.

I think that elaborating beyond that is unnecessary to prove your trustworthiness.

Spike D · 02-01-2008, 08:26 PM

With your unique content, looks and personality, over $30 would not hurt you in the least....

RevengeBucks_Monica · 02-01-2008, 08:29 PM

Trixie, I just poked around your site a little further and realized who you were

I remember Trixie's Houseboy from WAY WAY back. Your stable of sites is looking fantastic. I agree with the others that your price hike is probably a really good idea and I bet it will go over well with surfers.

Everyone else I've heard talk about pricing on websites has had positive experiences when they raise their prices.

It would be interesting to hear where the line really lays on this type of thing... hehehe, I wonder how high you can raise a price before you do see the conversions fall off.

01-24-2008, 07:45 PM	#1
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	Was it a bad idea to raise my join fee now? Our sites have been overdue for a price hike, so I finally committed to it with my new affiliate clean tour: http://www.tastytrixie.com/clean/ (that is totally homemade by me so if you feel like critiquing it, keep that in mind) Any thoughts on whether NOW (with recession fears / economic instability) is a bad time to do it? Should I have held off? Hmmmm . . . Anyone thinking of lowering the cost of memberships or offering bargains to address people financial fears? __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

01-24-2008, 07:47 PM	#3
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,340	I am really having a hard time believing that two dollars is going to turn some horny guy away from porn. That's like keeping a slice of chocolate cake away from my dad... it just doesn't happen. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

01-24-2008, 08:02 PM	#4
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	tony: I just "unveiled" it yesterday so I don't have any data yet, and wouldn't really know if it was a problem with the tour design or the price hike since I changed both at the same time. Sly: it was actually a $5 increase, but yeah -- I tend to think it's not going to matter. Just curious what other people's thoughts are, though. __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

01-24-2008, 08:13 PM	#5
Hell House Vic Pay to Cum Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Nor San Diego Posts: 1,029	looks cute trixie. nobodies opinion matters. watch your stats and wallet to see if it was smart or not. that matters. __________________ Contact Me - ICQ: 206851710 eMail vic (at) hellhousemedia (dot) com 'Satanism is like Capitalism for teens' - Ty HellHouse

01-24-2008, 08:14 PM	#6
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01-24-2008, 07:47 PM	#2
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	How are your numbers compared to the past?

01-24-2008, 08:17 PM	#7
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	Thanks, guys! Of course, you know the secondary reason I'm asking is just as an excuse to fish for compliments . . . I hate how long it takes me to do my half-assed designs so it feels good to hear nice feedback. __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

01-24-2008, 08:17 PM	#8
mike-al Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 691	I was going to say, depends on your price, $19.95 was always a bad price for surfers might be like, there must not be much inside as to where $24.95 brings on more curiousity... $24.95 was a good move, recession or not in my opinion.. btw, nice tits __________________ Delete this account, i am done here

01-24-2008, 08:18 PM	#9
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Remember Trixie, you are either selling your price or the content. From what I have seen of your content over the years, its the CONTENT that you are selling, Delia and the "red" stuff, well - people should PAY a little more to see that, its unique. I looked at your site, and I think if people want in, they will pay what you ask,... __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

01-24-2008, 08:24 PM	#10
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	I'm glowing! We recently made our sites all-access (except the red site, which we can't include because ccbill won't process it) so they're getting all of our sites instead of just one. I do think mike is right that the cheaper prices lower surfers perception of quality. __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

01-24-2008, 08:35 PM	#11
TCAP Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 222	I would suggest getting rid of http://www.tastytrixie.com/clean/TrialMemberships.htm if any surfer is on the edge of deciding to join or not, i definitely think the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs would push many toward the no-sale option. The way its currently worded, you're practically talking many out of joining.

01-24-2008, 08:42 PM	#12
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	Yeah, I think a lot of my text is questionable/debatable whether my approach is shooting myself in the foot. The reason I do it, though, is to establish trust with surfers. Honesty is part of my brand. Also, I think there's some reverse psychology there; no one wants someone else telling him that he can't afford something he wants. If a chick tells a guy, "honey, I don't think you can afford that" you KNOW he's going to be like, "oh yeah?? YOU HAVE ONLY MADE ME WANT IT MORE!" Deal done. __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

01-24-2008, 08:47 PM	#13
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Delia is CUTE!! MMmmmmm..... shiny boots.. MMmmm! __________________ i like waffles

01-24-2008, 08:49 PM	#14
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	Thanks!! I am a lucky bitch to have her as my girlfriend. __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

01-24-2008, 09:38 PM	#16
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	I love your sites, always have. The new design is great and my opinion is that you could probably raise the price even more in the future. Compared to what is out there your content is super unique, hardcore, and classy. Honestly Trixie, I think you have some of my favorite content of any site online. It looks great! You deserve to succeed in a huge way chick, I know how hard you've worked over the years. I can't rave enough. go Trixie!

01-24-2008, 10:16 PM	#17
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	It really means a lot to me to read that. (repressing urge to type hugs with all the cheesy parentheses) __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

01-24-2008, 10:30 PM	#18
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	awww ((((Trixie)))) hahaha gotcha

01-24-2008, 10:32 PM	#19
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01-24-2008, 10:34 PM	#20
jaysmoke Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: TORONTO Posts: 1,192	Wow...Hmmm. i think im going to sign up.

01-25-2008, 11:20 AM	#21
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	Sign up to promote it or sign up as a member? __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

01-25-2008, 12:07 PM	#22
Inde Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 983	lovely tits

01-25-2008, 01:59 PM	#23
MRock Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 251	Hey Trixie ... I moved Jill's sites to 29.95 a year ago. Conversions are actually better. Go on ... do it ;) __________________ Sell more Jill: Strapon Gurl Clips - Pixaloons Video Clips - Busty Smoker Clips

01-25-2008, 02:41 PM	#27
sicone Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sac Posts: 18,453	Still cheaper then most sites __________________

01-25-2008, 03:33 PM	#28
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	The red stuff, unfortunately, can't be on TastyTrixie.com because of credit card/ccbill policies so that's not an angle I get to push when advertising this site. It sucks hard, but that's a rant I'll spare everyone right this second (though I did start bitching about it over in that "Kayla Kupcakes BLEEDS" thread: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=802088 No one even remarked on my bloody nun photo (which I love to pull out whenever I can). __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

01-25-2008, 03:42 PM	#29
HairToStay Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Southcoast, Mass. Posts: 1,521	I've always loved your site and your blog is my favorite blog to read online. I did love the old design, but this one is great, too. $5 isn't a huge price hike for what you give them and for fans it's well worth the price. "Genuine girl-next-door with boobs AND brains!!!" Put that in HUGE letters on the new tour as it's true and will keep attracting new surfers. And remember, I can get you "red" processing :P __________________ Make bank by giving your surfers free pics every day and it costs you NOTHING! Use POTD Sponsors to find adult sponsors in more than 75 niches who offer a POTD feature!

01-25-2008, 04:27 PM	#30
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	Thanks! I have a ton of hairy armpit & bush pics for promo, by the way -- I will try to make alternate galleries & zips next time around that emphasize the hair (I always mean to, but you know how it goes). After losing my processing with Verotel for BloodyTrixie when they changed their terms, I've been reluctant to go through that ordeal again, and also am concerned about the way Hughes billing processes payments for digital content so that they say "tangible goods" on statements; that's kind of funky. I have the application printed out, and just keep sitting on it in part because I need to focus more on our other sites. I know I'm just throwing money away, though. __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

01-25-2008, 04:33 PM	#31
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	I love the new tour, Trixie! With the way you laid everything out (errr...) I doubt the surfers will complain at the price hike. __________________ email: [email protected]

01-25-2008, 04:33 PM	#32
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01-25-2008, 04:35 PM	#33
Mr. Deltoid Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 132	Abandon your trial-explanation page entirely. You're effectively persuading surfers not to sign up, which of course is stupid.

01-25-2008, 04:37 PM	#34
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01-30-2008, 01:14 PM	#35
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	Thanks again for the positive feedback. Oh, and I took down the links on the join page to those pages a couple of people thought were counterproductive. __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

02-01-2008, 06:25 PM	#36
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02-01-2008, 08:24 PM	#37
RevengeBucks_Monica Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 775	Hi Trixie, I agree with the others that your page that explains why you don't have trials is convincing surfers not to pay for your site. You want surfers to buy on impulse, and to not think about their money. If they start to think "Can I afford this" you are going to lose them. However, I think that one line from that page is fantastic: "While $24.95 might not be worth it to some people, I think it's a low price for someone to pay to gain such intimate access to me and my private life." I think that's all you need to say on that issue. I think that elaborating beyond that is unnecessary to prove your trustworthiness. __________________ The ORIGINAL & BEST CONVERTING EX-GIRLFRIEND REVENGE site! Revenge Bucks - Now with Morphing RSS Feeds! Email: monica @ revengebucks.com \| ICQ:138-027-662 \| AIM:RevengeMonica

02-01-2008, 08:26 PM	#38
Spike D Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 600	With your unique content, looks and personality, over $30 would not hurt you in the least.... __________________ SoloSlutCash email: Admin (at) SoloSlutCash (dot) com

02-01-2008, 08:29 PM	#39
RevengeBucks_Monica Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 775	Trixie, I just poked around your site a little further and realized who you were I remember Trixie's Houseboy from WAY WAY back. Your stable of sites is looking fantastic. I agree with the others that your price hike is probably a really good idea and I bet it will go over well with surfers. Everyone else I've heard talk about pricing on websites has had positive experiences when they raise their prices. It would be interesting to hear where the line really lays on this type of thing... hehehe, I wonder how high you can raise a price before you do see the conversions fall off. __________________ The ORIGINAL & BEST CONVERTING EX-GIRLFRIEND REVENGE site! Revenge Bucks - Now with Morphing RSS Feeds! Email: monica @ revengebucks.com \| ICQ:138-027-662 \| AIM:RevengeMonica