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gothweb · 10-02-2002, 10:31 AM

FOR SALE:

Network of three unique, well-respected gothic softcore and amateur websites. Includes GothicAmateur.com, Blood-Dolls.com, GothicUndine.com, and ShadowJen.com. Also includes related sites such as the Blood Money affiliate program.

Will negotiate for maintenance of site and continued creation of content, as well as content production/licensing operation. Preference given to buyers who can employ current staff of one off-site.

PS. Thanks, Visa!

Fletch XXX · 10-02-2002, 10:32 AM

Already?

Darren · 10-02-2002, 10:32 AM

[H] · 10-02-2002, 10:32 AM

the thinning of the herd begins.

playa · 10-02-2002, 10:34 AM

don't jump the gun too quick buddy

Dirty F · 10-02-2002, 10:34 AM

gothweb · 10-02-2002, 10:36 AM

I can afford to pull through this. I am not that tiny.

I'm just not sure it's worth it, to let Visa ass-rape me.

cherrylula · 10-02-2002, 10:36 AM

Yeah I wouldn't be jumping the gun so soon.

Fuck visa, there are always holes in the system.

Hey I might have missed it somewhere, but does anyone have any links to specific info about the new visa rules?

eru · 10-02-2002, 10:46 AM

Visa will feel the blow when their profits start to decline.

[H] · 10-02-2002, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eru
Visa will feel the blow when their profits start to decline.

Visa won't feel a damn thing. A few thousand shitty paysites going under is not going to affect Visa in the slightest.

BradShaw · 10-02-2002, 10:49 AM

another one bites the dust, who is next?

Thinning out will be good for everyone long term.

salsbury · 10-02-2002, 10:50 AM

hopefully someone see this great opportunity and will buy up these sites and a few others and will make more money even with the new regs. too bad the partnership option wasn't to your liking.

Honeyslut · 10-02-2002, 10:50 AM

Earlier GFY post

Your news for Friday, September 20, 2002...

VISA SETS NEW RULES FOR HIGH-RISK WEB MERCHANTS: Visa U.S.A. in November will implement new rules to reduce merchant acquirers' exposure to losses from risky Web-based merchants, Visa executives said Thursday at the Electronic Transactions Association's 2002 Midyear Meeting & Expo in Seattle. The rules will clarify and control how so-called aggregators, Internet payment service providers that process card purchases from Web-based sponsored merchants, can submit transactions so that Visa can more easily identify and trace the transactions, according to Senior Vice President Linda Gage. Under development for about two years, the rules will cover merchants who fall into Merchant Category Code 5967, Visa's classification for online, direct-marketing inbound-teleservices merchants. The category includes Web-based pornography sites and is the source of a disproportionate number of chargebacks. Visa will require acquirers to register their high-risk IPSPs serving MCC 5967 sponsored merchants and to submit monthly activity reports about them to Visa. Also, acquiring banks must have a minimum of $100 million in Tier 1 capital to process high-risk IPSP transactions. The rules address such issues as acquirer liability for IPSP activities and clear merchant identification on statements in order to reduce customer disputes about whether a voluntary transaction occurred.

What does this mean???
The new Visa rules mean a few things....

1) Payment Service Providers (PSP's) must "register" each client with Visa.
2) PSP's must report credit and chargeback activity per domain/URL.
3) VISA will view credit/chargeback data on a URL/domain level and combine that data for sites using multiple processors.
4) The number of banks able to settle transactions in this category has decreased dramatically.
5) VISA will have the ability to terminate, by URL if that URL exceeds their required credit/chargeback ratios.

What does this mean to you?

Run a tight ship. Know your affiliates. -- Disclose. Disclose. Disclose.

Watch your volumes at each processor * the volume affects the ratios. Choose a processor that will keep your chargebacks and credits low and within established Visa/MC ratios. Uptime, site content and FTC compliance, risk management and customer service are all more important now than ever.

EPOCH and the other major processors have known of these new reg's for months. EPOCH and has been compliant with the reporting of client data for well over a year. Epoch's portfolio of clients meets all VISA and MC requirements for credits and chargebacks.

Specific questions regarding your own program may be sent to
[email protected].

We posted this news story for the benefit of those that do not get news that affects them as quickly as they may want.

gothweb · 10-02-2002, 10:54 AM

The truth is, I can get through this without much trouble. However, it is the last thing we need now. I have been looking to work with a parent company that can employ me, and wanted to make a point-- so, voila, this thread.

And frankly, I don't like the fact that the processors couldn't do anything about it and aren't eating any of the fee. Now 15% of all of my business is joined by an extra $350 a year and $750 now. So far, all I have from my biller is a 10 message ICQ conversation with some impotent apologies. Woopty-shit.

SteveLightspeed · 10-02-2002, 11:00 AM

Gothweb

Contact me at icq 27295695. I'm in a buying mood.

Steve Lightspeed

gothweb · 10-02-2002, 11:13 AM

I've added you to my contacts. See you when we're both online.

cherrylula · 10-02-2002, 11:23 AM

...who's gonna be the first gothic tawnee?

Rictor · 10-02-2002, 11:27 AM

Gothweb has a kickass site...as a LS affiliate I would be very excited about having it in the program.

gothweb · 10-02-2002, 11:29 AM

I think there is an important lesson to be learned here. If you exagerate a grievance to make a point, people will pay attention and consider buying your websites. ;)

I'd apologize for coming across as over-reacting, but it was fun to vent that steam.

cafeaulait · 10-02-2002, 11:37 AM

Gothweb,

Just switch your processing to GloBill, they are completely unaffected by the new VISA USA regulations and hence you will not be affected either, its too soon to throw the towel in.

Chin 'up mate!

G

Honeyslut · 10-02-2002, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cafeaulait
Gothweb,

Just switch your processing to GloBill, they are completely unaffected by the new VISA USA regulations and hence you will not be affected either, its too soon to throw the towel in.

Chin 'up mate!

G

Globill rocks !

gothweb · 10-02-2002, 12:00 PM

Is globill really immune? If so, how the hell did they manage?

Fletch XXX · 10-02-2002, 12:08 PM

"No sell out." - Malcomn X

Stay strong brother.

\m/

SpeakEasy · 10-02-2002, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
I can afford to pull through this. I am not that tiny.

I'm just not sure it's worth it, to let Visa ass-rape me.

Is that 750.00 really that bad that your jumping ship???

gothweb · 10-02-2002, 12:21 PM

So you're saying Glo-Bill is using offshore tactics? And, in other words, is only immune if VISA doesn't apply these rules across the board... What about the thing about making people register in the US if they have a presence and all that?

I wonder how secure this is, as the regulations currently stand-- and how long it will take to close the loophole if Globill has really foind one.

cyberpunk · 10-02-2002, 12:21 PM

Hope this is just being pisssed off talking either way hit me up on aim

<IMX> · 10-02-2002, 12:24 PM

Battus--
I've stolen your sheep.

Voodoo · 10-02-2002, 12:27 PM

I'll give you $100.00 for the lot.
Ok? All sites for $100.00. Sound good?
I'll even sweeten the deal....
Not only will I give you $100.00 for all sites....
but, I will also take all of your content for a mere...
$10.00!!!
Yes that's right... I will do all of this for you AND
I will GIVE you $110.00 total!

Now you can't beat that!
Act now, while the offer stands!!

You haven't acted yet!

Hurry up! This offer won't last long!!!

gothweb · 10-02-2002, 12:28 PM

Proteus has been screwed up for AIM. I will get online in a few minutes, once it lets me back in after "too many logins".

The short version is that this post was just venting, but that I have been interested in an employment sell-out (not outright sale) for a while now.

Dawgy · 10-02-2002, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by <IMX>
Battus--
I've stolen your sheep.

what exactly are you doing with his sheep?
and are you using protection?

Fletch XXX · 10-02-2002, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy

what exactly are you doing with his sheep?
and are you using protection?

Hopefully nuthin too baaaaaaaaa da.

RATBOY · 10-02-2002, 12:51 PM

Gothweb!!! Don't sell dude!!! Go GloBill!!!

Seriously, I leave the computer for a whole morning, and WHAM!!! The whole porn universe is unraveling...

gothweb · 10-02-2002, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RATBOY
Gothweb!!! Don't sell dude!!! Go GloBill!!!

Seriously, I leave the computer for a whole morning, and WHAM!!! The whole porn universe is unraveling...

I am not jumping ship, don't worry. I was drawing an underline under the insanity of the new Visa stuff. Soon, small quality sites will be at a distinct disadvantage to the large corporate sites and the crap that feeds them. Honesty, original content, and personality will be harder and harder to find.

I may sell my sites, but only if I retain creative control and a few other things that matter to me. I can't overlook the possibility of hooking up with a larger company who can promote my sites, and give me employee status.

RATBOY · 10-02-2002, 01:13 PM

Is your business registered in the US? I assumed you were registered in the UK... What annual fees are associated with creating a merchant account there?

gothweb · 10-02-2002, 08:22 PM

My sites are owned by Pleiades Web Press, an LLC in California.

sumphatpimp · 10-02-2002, 08:45 PM

Visa has been around for awhile. It has been time for them to go for a long time.

Anyone ever hear of check cards? Debit cards? and a lot of other ways to transfer money? Didn't some outfit named Western Union do that years ago? (still does) just stop the crap about chargebacks. All porn sales are final. Thats all that is needed.

Try to take a fuck book back to the local porn shop, see if he takes it back, shoot spots and all !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is Paypal involved in this??????

10-02-2002, 10:31 AM	#1
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Unique Gothic Paysites for Sale FOR SALE: Network of three unique, well-respected gothic softcore and amateur websites. Includes GothicAmateur.com, Blood-Dolls.com, GothicUndine.com, and ShadowJen.com. Also includes related sites such as the Blood Money affiliate program. Will negotiate for maintenance of site and continued creation of content, as well as content production/licensing operation. Preference given to buyers who can employ current staff of one off-site. PS. Thanks, Visa! __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

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10-02-2002, 10:36 AM	#7
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I can afford to pull through this. I am not that tiny. I'm just not sure it's worth it, to let Visa ass-rape me. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

10-02-2002, 10:32 AM	#4
[H] So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 103	the thinning of the herd begins.

10-02-2002, 10:34 AM	#5
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	don't jump the gun too quick buddy

10-02-2002, 10:36 AM	#8
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	Yeah I wouldn't be jumping the gun so soon. Fuck visa, there are always holes in the system. Hey I might have missed it somewhere, but does anyone have any links to specific info about the new visa rules? Last edited by cherrylula; 10-02-2002 at 10:38 AM..

10-02-2002, 10:46 AM	#9
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10-02-2002, 10:50 AM	#12
salsbury Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,070	hopefully someone see this great opportunity and will buy up these sites and a few others and will make more money even with the new regs. too bad the partnership option wasn't to your liking. __________________

10-02-2002, 10:50 AM	#13
Honeyslut Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ass Valley, Ca Posts: 6,436	Earlier GFY post Your news for Friday, September 20, 2002... VISA SETS NEW RULES FOR HIGH-RISK WEB MERCHANTS: Visa U.S.A. in November will implement new rules to reduce merchant acquirers' exposure to losses from risky Web-based merchants, Visa executives said Thursday at the Electronic Transactions Association's 2002 Midyear Meeting & Expo in Seattle. The rules will clarify and control how so-called aggregators, Internet payment service providers that process card purchases from Web-based sponsored merchants, can submit transactions so that Visa can more easily identify and trace the transactions, according to Senior Vice President Linda Gage. Under development for about two years, the rules will cover merchants who fall into Merchant Category Code 5967, Visa's classification for online, direct-marketing inbound-teleservices merchants. The category includes Web-based pornography sites and is the source of a disproportionate number of chargebacks. Visa will require acquirers to register their high-risk IPSPs serving MCC 5967 sponsored merchants and to submit monthly activity reports about them to Visa. Also, acquiring banks must have a minimum of $100 million in Tier 1 capital to process high-risk IPSP transactions. The rules address such issues as acquirer liability for IPSP activities and clear merchant identification on statements in order to reduce customer disputes about whether a voluntary transaction occurred. What does this mean??? The new Visa rules mean a few things.... 1) Payment Service Providers (PSP's) must "register" each client with Visa. 2) PSP's must report credit and chargeback activity per domain/URL. 3) VISA will view credit/chargeback data on a URL/domain level and combine that data for sites using multiple processors. 4) The number of banks able to settle transactions in this category has decreased dramatically. 5) VISA will have the ability to terminate, by URL if that URL exceeds their required credit/chargeback ratios. What does this mean to you? Run a tight ship. Know your affiliates. -- Disclose. Disclose. Disclose. Watch your volumes at each processor * the volume affects the ratios. Choose a processor that will keep your chargebacks and credits low and within established Visa/MC ratios. Uptime, site content and FTC compliance, risk management and customer service are all more important now than ever. EPOCH and the other major processors have known of these new reg's for months. EPOCH and has been compliant with the reporting of client data for well over a year. Epoch's portfolio of clients meets all VISA and MC requirements for credits and chargebacks. Specific questions regarding your own program may be sent to [email protected]. We posted this news story for the benefit of those that do not get news that affects them as quickly as they may want. __________________ http://nakedlunchnews.comWhat's up ? Naked Lunch News !

10-02-2002, 10:54 AM	#14
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	The truth is, I can get through this without much trouble. However, it is the last thing we need now. I have been looking to work with a parent company that can employ me, and wanted to make a point-- so, voila, this thread. And frankly, I don't like the fact that the processors couldn't do anything about it and aren't eating any of the fee. Now 15% of all of my business is joined by an extra $350 a year and $750 now. So far, all I have from my biller is a 10 message ICQ conversation with some impotent apologies. Woopty-shit. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

10-02-2002, 11:00 AM	#15
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	Gothweb Contact me at icq 27295695. I'm in a buying mood. Steve Lightspeed __________________ Abra-cadabra!

10-02-2002, 11:13 AM	#16
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I've added you to my contacts. See you when we're both online. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

10-02-2002, 11:23 AM	#17
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	...who's gonna be the first gothic tawnee?

10-02-2002, 11:27 AM	#18
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Gothweb has a kickass site...as a LS affiliate I would be very excited about having it in the program.

10-02-2002, 11:29 AM	#19
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I think there is an important lesson to be learned here. If you exagerate a grievance to make a point, people will pay attention and consider buying your websites. ;) I'd apologize for coming across as over-reacting, but it was fun to vent that steam. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

10-02-2002, 11:37 AM	#20
cafeaulait Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 587	Gothweb, Just switch your processing to GloBill, they are completely unaffected by the new VISA USA regulations and hence you will not be affected either, its too soon to throw the towel in. Chin 'up mate! G

10-02-2002, 12:00 PM	#22
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Is globill really immune? If so, how the hell did they manage? __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

10-02-2002, 12:08 PM	#23
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	"No sell out." - Malcomn X Stay strong brother. \m/ __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

10-02-2002, 12:21 PM	#25
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	So you're saying Glo-Bill is using offshore tactics? And, in other words, is only immune if VISA doesn't apply these rules across the board... What about the thing about making people register in the US if they have a presence and all that? I wonder how secure this is, as the regulations currently stand-- and how long it will take to close the loophole if Globill has really foind one. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

10-02-2002, 12:21 PM	#26
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10-02-2002, 12:27 PM	#28
Voodoo ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 10,592	I'll give you $100.00 for the lot. Ok? All sites for $100.00. Sound good? I'll even sweeten the deal.... Not only will I give you $100.00 for all sites.... but, I will also take all of your content for a mere... $10.00!!! Yes that's right... I will do all of this for you AND I will GIVE you $110.00 total! Now you can't beat that! Act now, while the offer stands!! You haven't acted yet! Hurry up! This offer won't last long!!! __________________ "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

10-02-2002, 12:28 PM	#29
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Proteus has been screwed up for AIM. I will get online in a few minutes, once it lets me back in after "too many logins". The short version is that this post was just venting, but that I have been interested in an employment sell-out (not outright sale) for a while now. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

10-02-2002, 12:51 PM	#32
RATBOY Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,592	Gothweb!!! Don't sell dude!!! Go GloBill!!! Seriously, I leave the computer for a whole morning, and WHAM!!! The whole porn universe is unraveling...

10-02-2002, 01:13 PM	#34
RATBOY Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,592	Is your business registered in the US? I assumed you were registered in the UK... What annual fees are associated with creating a merchant account there?

10-02-2002, 08:22 PM	#35
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	My sites are owned by Pleiades Web Press, an LLC in California. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

10-02-2002, 08:45 PM	#36
sumphatpimp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,235	Visa has been around for awhile. It has been time for them to go for a long time. Anyone ever hear of check cards? Debit cards? and a lot of other ways to transfer money? Didn't some outfit named Western Union do that years ago? (still does) just stop the crap about chargebacks. All porn sales are final. Thats all that is needed. Try to take a fuck book back to the local porn shop, see if he takes it back, shoot spots and all !!!!!!!!!!!!! Is Paypal involved in this??????