Unique Gothic Paysites for Sale
 

FOR SALE:

Network of three unique, well-respected gothic softcore and amateur websites. Includes GothicAmateur.com, Blood-Dolls.com, GothicUndine.com, and ShadowJen.com. Also includes related sites such as the Blood Money affiliate program.

Will negotiate for maintenance of site and continued creation of content, as well as content production/licensing operation. Preference given to buyers who can employ current staff of one off-site.

PS. Thanks, Visa!

Already?

WHY?

the thinning of the herd begins.

don't jump the gun too quick buddy

Good

I can afford to pull through this. I am not that tiny.

I'm just not sure it's worth it, to let Visa ass-rape me.

Yeah I wouldn't be jumping the gun so soon.

Fuck visa, there are always holes in the system.

Hey I might have missed it somewhere, but does anyone have any links to specific info about the new visa rules?

Visa will feel the blow when their profits start to decline.

Visa won't feel a damn thing. A few thousand shitty paysites going under is not going to affect Visa in the slightest.

another one bites the dust, who is next?

Thinning out will be good for everyone long term.

hopefully someone see this great opportunity and will buy up these sites and a few others and will make more money even with the new regs. too bad the partnership option wasn't to your liking.

Earlier GFY post



Your news for Friday, September 20, 2002...

VISA SETS NEW RULES FOR HIGH-RISK WEB MERCHANTS: Visa U.S.A. in November will implement new rules to reduce merchant acquirers' exposure to losses from risky Web-based merchants, Visa executives said Thursday at the Electronic Transactions Association's 2002 Midyear Meeting & Expo in Seattle. The rules will clarify and control how so-called aggregators, Internet payment service providers that process card purchases from Web-based sponsored merchants, can submit transactions so that Visa can more easily identify and trace the transactions, according to Senior Vice President Linda Gage. Under development for about two years, the rules will cover merchants who fall into Merchant Category Code 5967, Visa's classification for online, direct-marketing inbound-teleservices merchants. The category includes Web-based pornography sites and is the source of a disproportionate number of chargebacks. Visa will require acquirers to register their high-risk IPSPs serving MCC 5967 sponsored merchants and to submit monthly activity reports about them to Visa. Also, acquiring banks must have a minimum of $100 million in Tier 1 capital to process high-risk IPSP transactions. The rules address such issues as acquirer liability for IPSP activities and clear merchant identification on statements in order to reduce customer disputes about whether a voluntary transaction occurred.

What does this mean???
The new Visa rules mean a few things....


1) Payment Service Providers (PSP's) must "register" each client with Visa.
2) PSP's must report credit and chargeback activity per domain/URL.
3) VISA will view credit/chargeback data on a URL/domain level and combine that data for sites using multiple processors.
4) The number of banks able to settle transactions in this category has decreased dramatically.
5) VISA will have the ability to terminate, by URL if that URL exceeds their required credit/chargeback ratios.


What does this mean to you?

Run a tight ship. Know your affiliates. -- Disclose. Disclose. Disclose.


Watch your volumes at each processor * the volume affects the ratios. Choose a processor that will keep your chargebacks and credits low and within established Visa/MC ratios. Uptime, site content and FTC compliance, risk management and customer service are all more important now than ever.


EPOCH and the other major processors have known of these new reg's for months. EPOCH and has been compliant with the reporting of client data for well over a year. Epoch's portfolio of clients meets all VISA and MC requirements for credits and chargebacks.

Specific questions regarding your own program may be sent to
[email protected].

We posted this news story for the benefit of those that do not get news that affects them as quickly as they may want.

The truth is, I can get through this without much trouble. However, it is the last thing we need now. I have been looking to work with a parent company that can employ me, and wanted to make a point-- so, voila, this thread.

And frankly, I don't like the fact that the processors couldn't do anything about it and aren't eating any of the fee. Now 15% of all of my business is joined by an extra $350 a year and $750 now. So far, all I have from my biller is a 10 message ICQ conversation with some impotent apologies. Woopty-shit.

Gothweb

Contact me at icq 27295695. I'm in a buying mood.

Steve Lightspeed

I've added you to my contacts. See you when we're both online.

...who's gonna be the first gothic tawnee?

:1orglaugh

Gothweb has a kickass site...as a LS affiliate I would be very excited about having it in the program.

I think there is an important lesson to be learned here. If you exagerate a grievance to make a point, people will pay attention and consider buying your websites. ;)

I'd apologize for coming across as over-reacting, but it was fun to vent that steam.

Gothweb,

Just switch your processing to GloBill, they are completely unaffected by the new VISA USA regulations and hence you will not be affected either, its too soon to throw the towel in.

Chin 'up mate!

G

Globill rocks !


:)

Is globill really immune? If so, how the hell did they manage?

"No sell out." - Malcomn X

Stay strong brother.

\m/

Is that 750.00 really that bad that your jumping ship???

So you're saying Glo-Bill is using offshore tactics? And, in other words, is only immune if VISA doesn't apply these rules across the board... What about the thing about making people register in the US if they have a presence and all that?

I wonder how secure this is, as the regulations currently stand-- and how long it will take to close the loophole if Globill has really foind one.

Hope this is just being pisssed off talking either way hit me up on aim

Battus--
I've stolen your sheep.
:1orglaugh

I'll give you $100.00 for the lot.
Ok? All sites for $100.00. Sound good?
I'll even sweeten the deal....
Not only will I give you $100.00 for all sites....
but, I will also take all of your content for a mere...
$10.00!!!
Yes that's right... I will do all of this for you AND
I will GIVE you $110.00 total!

Now you can't beat that!
Act now, while the offer stands!!

You haven't acted yet!

Hurry up! This offer won't last long!!!

Proteus has been screwed up for AIM. I will get online in a few minutes, once it lets me back in after "too many logins".

The short version is that this post was just venting, but that I have been interested in an employment sell-out (not outright sale) for a while now.

what exactly are you doing with his sheep?
and are you using protection?

Hopefully nuthin too baaaaaaaaa da.

Gothweb!!! Don't sell dude!!! Go GloBill!!!

Seriously, I leave the computer for a whole morning, and WHAM!!! The whole porn universe is unraveling...

I am not jumping ship, don't worry. I was drawing an underline under the insanity of the new Visa stuff. Soon, small quality sites will be at a distinct disadvantage to the large corporate sites and the crap that feeds them. Honesty, original content, and personality will be harder and harder to find.

I may sell my sites, but only if I retain creative control and a few other things that matter to me. I can't overlook the possibility of hooking up with a larger company who can promote my sites, and give me employee status.

Is your business registered in the US? I assumed you were registered in the UK... What annual fees are associated with creating a merchant account there?

My sites are owned by Pleiades Web Press, an LLC in California.

Visa has been around for awhile. It has been time for them to go for a long time.

Anyone ever hear of check cards? Debit cards? and a lot of other ways to transfer money? Didn't some outfit named Western Union do that years ago? (still does) just stop the crap about chargebacks. All porn sales are final. Thats all that is needed.

Try to take a fuck book back to the local porn shop, see if he takes it back, shoot spots and all !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Is Paypal involved in this??????