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notoldschool 01-17-2008 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13662624)

For Sponsors, what sponsor wants to admit that very few people promote them. If they have an alexa rank of 1 million, ofcourse they are going to tell us alexa is shit, because a rank of 1 million probably means 50 people a day or less are hitting their site. Doesn't make their program look to popular. :2 cents:

If your a sponser and have a paysite that ranks in the millions or even the high hundreds of thousands then you should not have a program. :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 13662596)
yes, the "others" you speak of would be me.

Yeah sorry i didnt give you a shout out. I actually started adding some of your sites to some of my projects for the future, but please dont tell me to fuck off or something because I hate wasting time taking down links from shit ive allready done.

TheDoc 01-17-2008 12:43 PM

Of course Alexa rankings are dropping for Adult Sites.. Less American/Canadian/UK/AU use Alexa than ever. Alexa's plugin is used heavy in the Asian markets and Webmasters.

The counter market is getting hit because of all the no-script / script block tools that come with virus protection packages, plugins, ect these days. No 3rd party counter / javascript works on my machine. This is getting stronger has FF takes more ground too.

For every 1 person with enough bandwidth to continually watch tube movies you have 10 that don't have enough bandwidth to wait for one to buffer. Picture TGP's are still popular, MPG's didn't replace them, and Tubes aren't going to replace them either.

You have a higher chance of the recession killing broadband connections than Tubes being any reason why traffic/sales have dropped.

notoldschool 01-17-2008 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13662786)
Of course Alexa rankings are dropping for Adult Sites.. Less American/Canadian/UK/AU use Alexa than ever. Alexa's plugin is used heavy in the Asian markets and Webmasters.

The counter market is getting hit because of all the no-script / script block tools that come with virus protection packages, plugins, ect these days. No 3rd party counter / javascript works on my machine. This is getting stronger has FF takes more ground too.

For every 1 person with enough bandwidth to continually watch tube movies you have 10 that don't have enough bandwidth to wait for one to buffer. Picture TGP's are still popular, MPG's didn't replace them, and Tubes aren't going to replace them either.

You have a higher chance of the recession killing broadband connections than Tubes being any reason why traffic/sales have dropped.


Interesting thoughts.

12clicks 01-17-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13662643)

Yeah sorry i didnt give you a shout out. I actually started adding some of your sites to some of my projects for the future, but please dont tell me to fuck off or something because I hate wasting time taking down links from shit ive allready done.

hahaha. no. just making sure we were on the same side of the argument.

georgeyw 01-17-2008 01:35 PM

What really surprises me here is that no one has mentioned video quality.

Potentials signups will watch videos at one of these tube sites and either belt off to the pixelated videos or want for something more. Let's face it the video quality on these tube sites isn't all that great, especially when everything is advertised as HD this and HD that these days.

Also for the everyday joe, they're not going to know how to download an offline copy of the video.

Tube sites might be the new tgp/mgp, but I don't think the likes of mgp and tgp are dead. People still want quality even(i'd go as far as saying *especially*) in their porn, alot of people tend to overlook this when yabbering on about tube sites.

the Shemp 01-17-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by webgurl (Post 13662597)
maybe you can hook me up with a job there too :winkwink:

no problem, who wouldnt want to work at a nut stand on the side of the highway.. ;)

DavieVegas 01-17-2008 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 13662980)
no problem, who wouldnt want to work at a nut stand on the side of the highway.. ;)

LOL.........Shemp u crack me up

the Shemp 01-17-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DavieVegas (Post 13663112)
LOL.........Shemp u crack me up

Davie, do you know if Stuckeys has franchises available...?
i think a lot of webmasters would like a nut shop on the side of the highway...

shermo 01-17-2008 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 13662957)
What really surprises me here is that no one has mentioned video quality.

Potentials signups will watch videos at one of these tube sites and either belt off to the pixelated videos or want for something more. Let's face it the video quality on these tube sites isn't all that great, especially when everything is advertised as HD this and HD that these days.

Also for the everyday joe, they're not going to know how to download an offline copy of the video.

Tube sites might be the new tgp/mgp, but I don't think the likes of mgp and tgp are dead. People still want quality even(i'd go as far as saying *especially*) in their porn, alot of people tend to overlook this when yabbering on about tube sites.

I've been mentioning it in all my posts :)

madfuck 01-17-2008 03:43 PM

bump.....

Unified Stats Jim 01-17-2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13662567)
I have 4 paysites in the top 5000 and alexa is very wrong. Compete is pretty much accurate on all sites I have checked. Alexa still ranks old school sites higher despite the fact they dont get nearly as much traffic. The guys who say Alexa is right and Compete is wrong are dont have sites to gauge by. Period.

Every site I mention in my post above is sub 10,000 on Alexa. While I don't dispute that Alexa means little in real world terms for adult sites and is almost always way off base with their stupid combination of reach and page views, that check I just did on Compete was not even remotely close, and on sites with tens of thousands of uniques per day. It reports sites with 30,000 uniques per day as having 90,000 per month. Surely not accurate for me. Any suggestions at what level it becomes more reliable? :error

Not that it matters, those dick measuring sites are only interesting on the boards. :1orglaugh

Edit : Fiddy meaningless graphs!

TheDoc 01-17-2008 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 13662957)
What really surprises me here is that no one has mentioned video quality.

Potentials signups will watch videos at one of these tube sites and either belt off to the pixelated videos or want for something more. Let's face it the video quality on these tube sites isn't all that great, especially when everything is advertised as HD this and HD that these days.

Also for the everyday joe, they're not going to know how to download an offline copy of the video.

Tube sites might be the new tgp/mgp, but I don't think the likes of mgp and tgp are dead. People still want quality even(i'd go as far as saying *especially*) in their porn, alot of people tend to overlook this when yabbering on about tube sites.


I feel Tubes prove that super high quality isn't needed, but rather just a damn good porn flick, story or not.

True HD porn doesn't sell all that well.

shermo 01-17-2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13662786)
Of course Alexa rankings are dropping for Adult Sites.. Less American/Canadian/UK/AU use Alexa than ever. Alexa's plugin is used heavy in the Asian markets and Webmasters.

The counter market is getting hit because of all the no-script / script block tools that come with virus protection packages, plugins, ect these days. No 3rd party counter / javascript works on my machine. This is getting stronger has FF takes more ground too.

For every 1 person with enough bandwidth to continually watch tube movies you have 10 that don't have enough bandwidth to wait for one to buffer. Picture TGP's are still popular, MPG's didn't replace them, and Tubes aren't going to replace them either.

You have a higher chance of the recession killing broadband connections than Tubes being any reason why traffic/sales have dropped.

It's great to see a person with his finger on the pulse. :thumbsup

georgeyw 01-17-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shermsshack (Post 13663491)
I've been mentioning it in all my posts :)

ahhh so you have, sorry your posts are way way too long for my quick stops at gfy :thumbsup

MediaGuy 01-17-2008 05:18 PM

I noticed all our sites disappeared/reappeared at the bottom of Alexa when IE 7 came out, and upgraded everyone's browsers without importing the toolbar; that is/was the barometer, so unless you're Google or Yahoo it's gonna take a few indexations and crawlothons before you relist realistically...

No biggie.

TerryM 01-17-2008 05:26 PM

I use compete and alexa.....

st0ned 01-17-2008 05:27 PM

I have never paid too much attention to Alexa ranking, better to base it off of web stats.


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