Originally Posted by chopstick (Post 13655684)

For what good reason?

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13656195)

btw, any tube owners reading this that are interested in making legitimate deals on content and it makes sense to me, i will hear any and all pitches. contrary to popular belief we are adapting and innovating at a pace that most are not going to be able to keep up with. you shall see soon what i mean. we are leaders not followers. evolution is a certainty and i don't intend to be left behind or sitting on the sidelines. monetizing the future is a definite for us, but you know what they say, if it don't make dollas, it don't make sense.

woooof.

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13655275)

Fuck him you choose to take a job that fucks over a industry then fuck them.

Originally Posted by PunchBunny Dave (Post 13656234)

To be fair... it's not like they go around saying "Hey, come work for us ... we fuck content producers in the ass to try and make a quick buck... wanna work here?"

Most people, especially if they're new, young, naive etc, will not have researched. Not everyone does. In fact. ..a lot of people don't.

Imagine, he applies coz he wants to work in porn ... then ends up getting a smash in the mouth for promoting the company he works for.

I don't think Pete should have done it, because it just makes him look bad in one way.

I hope the kid deserved it ... because if he was just what I explained above, he didn't deserve it at all. Better yet would be to explain what xTube does. Maybe he'd realise that he was working for asshats.

Originally Posted by Evil E (Post 13656294)

I find this thread a bit sad, lots of hypocrites on it. Jealous of their Alexa rank?

Xtube developped a business model to work with webmasters/other porn businesses and you put them down like they're the baddest person in the industry while other guys are sleeping with zango infecting/hijacking your sales, plenty of companies places ads/support torrent sites, some other companies have no problem taking warez traffic and megarotic sells memberships on their site for full access to stolen copyrighted videos. And I probably don't know the tenth of it.

I'm not saying Xtube is good for everyone's business or they are perfect, or I support them, I'm just saying that some of you should take a look in the mirror before ganging up on someone.

Of course they're not your bros, so it's ok.

-10 on my bro scale :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Evil E (Post 13656294)

I find this thread a bit sad, lots of hypocrites on it. Jealous of their Alexa rank?

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13656104)

Ever have your hard work used without your permission by someone else to make money?

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 13656446)

I see LoveDollars in your sig. I assume that is you.

Prior to TorrrentSpy blocking American traffic, I saw MyFreePaysite.com advertising there. They were/are an Alexa top 300-400 site.

Funny thing is, they were actively promoting LoveDollars. Thus, LoveDollars was profiting off of TorrentSpy traffic.

Care to comment?

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 13656446)

I see LoveDollars in your sig. I assume that is you.

Prior to TorrrentSpy blocking American traffic, I saw MyFreePaysite.com advertising there. They were/are an Alexa top 300-400 site.

Funny thing is, they were actively promoting LoveDollars. Thus, LoveDollars was profiting off of TorrentSpy traffic.

Care to comment?

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13656477)

do you have proof of this or just trying to shut me up?

Originally Posted by chopstick (Post 13655844)

we dont want your content. The users don't want your content.
XTube is focused on Amateur content, generated by the user.

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13656550)

i seem to remember someone from xtube trying to sell us on this. simple fact is you are not being truthfull.

go look at your own "MOST VIEWED" list ,looks to me primarily commercial content

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13656560)

infact if you are truly being truthfull you can prove it to us.

remove all the content you "dont want" from the most viewed list

most of them are commercial videos , that you dont want anyways right ? so heres your chance to make your site better and prove us all wrong. go remove them , come back and laugh in our faces.

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 13656576)

I can't speak for them, but it could be that blog owners are embedding that stuff and driving the views up.

Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands (Post 13654176)

I heard the kid representing xtube got punched.. lol
He walks up to me and tries to small talk and I was cool until he hands me his card, I gave it back to him and told him that I had no interest in talking to him. He asks me why?... :helpme

I tell him the fact that we have to spent hours on sites like his to get our content removed pisses me off, he says, well we do remove it right?
I guess the look on my face was enough for him to walk away. 2 minutes longer and his ass would have been in the pool.

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Originally Posted by chopstick (Post 13655844)

You guys really think that we are out looking for your content. Wow, I cannot count how many times that has been opposed.

There is no one in the office uploading content that was not created by the person uploading.

We don't want your content. The users don't want your content.
XTube is focused on Amateur content, generated by the user. The volume of email that we get bitching about commercial content is immense, so we implemented a filter that blocks commercial content (WMs) - the users loved it.

We're not hiding behind the loophole that bars us from reviewing content. We had a schedule where staff would review content on an hourly basis until we learned that doing so incriminated us. So now that we're not allowed to police the site, we rely on viewers. We don't like it like that because we don't want your promo clips mixed in there pissing off our users and screwing with copyrights.

I was not clear as to how blocking all commercial content from the free section would help solve the problem of copyright. I really honestly believe this is a good solution. It's not some tactic. Fuck sakes people, we're Canadians! We're nice people!

Blocking commercial content from the free section will make it super easy to locate and delete stolen content, and ban the user who uploaded it, along with everything else they have uploaded. There is going to be a plainly visible button that will immediately remove the user and all of their uploads. This button will be available to all users, including the XTube staff - for chance encounters, because we're not allowed to police the site.

By increasing the ease and speed of removal we're able to eliminate all offending content, and you guys can focus your anger on the other tube sites who are too chicken to show up at shows, or even make their contacts freely available. Oh, on that point, Kurtis was not at Internext to 'make nice' with WMs. He was invited BY THE SHOW to be a speaker. YOU people wanted him there, and then you get all pissy about it - HA! Too funny.

Anyways, if Kurtis was as poorly behaved as you guys say he was, then he earned the shots he got. I will believe him over you guys though, just my loyalty talkin there.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 13656758)

You either bought the content legally with the rights to give it away for free (very unlikely)

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13656811)

In my mind there _IS_ a place for tube sites, even those with substantial sized clips, and it will make money. A tube site doesn't have to steal to be successful, it's just the easy way out.

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13656839)

you are correct.

many of us, like you, are not sitting around on our hands. evolve or die. that part i agree with the people screaming adapt.

however, nothing bars anyone from getting bitch slapped around a little bit for getting caught with their hands in someone else's cookie jar though.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 13656794)

I keyed "Asian" into the search box on XTube, since that is the niche I am most familiar with. I recognized most of the content as commercial content, and in many cases know who the shooters were, and that they specifically prohibit the use of their content (even if it is licensed) from being used by sites such as XTube.

ADG

Originally Posted by PunchBunny Dave (Post 13656234)

To be fair... it's not like they go around saying "Hey, come work for us ... we fuck content producers in the ass to try and make a quick buck... wanna work here?"

Most people, especially if they're new, young, naive etc, will not have researched. Not everyone does. In fact. ..a lot of people don't.

Imagine, he applies coz he wants to work in porn ... then ends up getting a smash in the mouth for promoting the company he works for.

I don't think Pete should have done it, because it just makes him look bad in one way.

I hope the kid deserved it ... because if he was just what I explained above, he didn't deserve it at all. Better yet would be to explain what xTube does. Maybe he'd realise that he was working for asshats.

Originally Posted by NosMo (Post 13656112)

Says you, but are you French Canadians or a real Canadians?

NosMo

Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands (Post 13656156)

Hiding behind a US law while you're in Canada (or where ever you are). :321GFY

Originally Posted by Tat2Jr (Post 13656166)

What I meant by the 10 years as a content producer is that you could be working with me to get me on your VOD shit instead of calling me names. I'm not beating my chest, and telling you to look at my gfy join date. I know years mean nothing - obviously since you're picking fights with or at the least belittling a)an establish content producer, b)someone who stated they worked the tube sites to their advantage instead of fighting them and c) someone who was asking a question that obviously meant they submitted their stuff to your site. I was being civil, and asking obvious questions. You come back with "smarty pants" and "I give a shit?". Wow - you are SO right - years in this business do mean nothing.

Originally Posted by Tat2Jr (Post 13656189)

I know a lot of unauthorized full scenes are posted by users everyday, and I won't support a company that gets paid off stolen content.

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13656307)

Who gives a fuck about ranking.

You obviously have never created a product then had it stolen.

That's what this is about!

Originally Posted by BradM (Post 13654310)

Pete has a temper don't fuck with him. Nicest guy in the world when you're on his good side but he can unleash the beast (thats a nickname for his penis)

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13656550)

go look at your own "MOST VIEWED" list ,looks to me primarily commercial content

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13656560)

infact if you are truly being truthfull you can prove it to us.

remove all the content you "dont want" from the most viewed list

most of them are commercial videos , that you dont want anyways right ? so heres your chance to make your site better and prove us all wrong. go remove them , come back and laugh in our faces.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 13656758)

Pretty Funny...

so what are all these DVD's in your "get a job at xtube" video that's on youtube?

ht tp://w ww.youtube.c om/watch?v=jX1OE0fbJNk

You either bought the content legally with the rights to give it away for free (very unlikely) or you are ripping a bunch of DVD's illegally and uploading them "from your office".

So in short you are lying right now.

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13656787)

you'd be surprised how many studios know jack shit about web and would actually license them stuff. i have reviewed the dvds on their site and they are older titles that have already gone to distributors like marc bruder and some others. chances are that those titles were licensed through a distributor like him for web use.

:2 cents:

the chances of them just ripping peoples dvds and uploading them are about 0%. they're ballsy, but not unintelligent.

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 13656794)

I keyed "Asian" into the search box on XTube, since that is the niche I am most familiar with. I recognized most of the content as commercial content, and in many cases know who the shooters were, and that they specifically prohibit the use of their content (even if it is licensed) from being used by sites such as XTube.

ADG

Originally Posted by pip (Post 13657222)

Xtube are a bunch of Thiefs

Originally Posted by chopstick (Post 13657344)

A1R3K, Correct, there are distributors in there. But, Adam and Eve, Pink Visual, Wicked, Combat Zone, etc, are in there too.

The website has amateur porn for free, by users - that gets people to the site (the free word).
The website then has amateur porn for sale, by the users. Also a huge draw, and a great help to pay the bills.
The website also has DVDs to offer those who're looking for more more pro content. More bill paying.

Nowhere in our plan do we desire ripped off content. I said it before and I will say it again - pro content mixed into the free area does not please our users or us. We spend time removing illegal content. Users know that if they upload it, it will get taken down. In the piracy community these people know that XTube is not the place to shove content, and that if they want to share it they need to use sites that are based in the Europe where the rules almost protect the offenders.

XTube is getting all the heat because Justin, Kurtis or myself balls-up and come on here and rebut you guys. What other tube or torrent site does that?

Originally Posted by chopstick (Post 13657292)

What is the name of the person who stole your stuff?
You don't know who it is? It was the people you made the content for. You made porn for people to enjoy, and they're enjoying it by spreading.

These "stealing what I made" arguments are the same as blaming the people who made the roads for drunk drivers. Mothers Against Drunk Driving hates all roads and all construction workers!