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|  01-14-2008, 08:05 PM | #1 | 
| Ah My Balls Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 
					Posts: 14,311
				 |  Holy fuck I just checked my Fling stats free 1:106 paid 1:4030  what the hell? 
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|  01-14-2008, 08:09 PM | #2 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Uranus 
					Posts: 2,808
				 | you should try mainstream dating sponsors for US traffic.. should convert around 1:15 or better for free, and you'll get paid $3+ | 
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|  01-14-2008, 08:13 PM | #3 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vegas 
					Posts: 4,499
				 | Ref link???? 
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|  01-14-2008, 08:27 PM | #4 | 
| In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska 
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				 | ouch that sucks | 
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|  01-14-2008, 08:34 PM | #5 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Costa Rica 
					Posts: 315
				 | Try me on ICQ. | 
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|  01-14-2008, 09:17 PM | #6 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Uranus 
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|  01-14-2008, 09:19 PM | #7 | 
| A freakin' legend! Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA 
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|  01-14-2008, 09:20 PM | #8 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 
					Posts: 2,825
				 | yah, rumor has it fling has flooded their free members area with a tonne of upsells to different paysites... most fling memberships dont convert to paid as well as they used to | 
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|  01-14-2008, 09:45 PM | #9 | 
| Geo Cities Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Captiva Island, Florida USA 
					Posts: 11,835
				 | Fling is so 2007 
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|  01-14-2008, 10:09 PM | #10 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ 
					Posts: 13,337
				 | Yeah... Stop using FLING!!! Please....take your traffic else where. 
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|  01-14-2008, 10:28 PM | #11 | 
| Crazy Aussie Bastard Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my home. 
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|  01-14-2008, 11:45 PM | #12 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles 
					Posts: 6,986
				 | Can anyone else confirm this? | 
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|  01-15-2008, 05:20 AM | #13 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BA 
					Posts: 2,579
				 | Fling has 3 paid product in their free members area: fling chat with cams ( this is what they count as a paid join ), naked.com and premium cams, I don´t think they pay wms for the last 2...I might be wrong, but chances of converting a free to paid are 1/3 now   
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|  01-15-2008, 05:28 AM | #14 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa 
					Posts: 19,631
				 | This should be easy to confirm as its free...so if no one does by later today i'll do it myself and post back. I was going to switch all my dating links over to fling soon but not if this is the case. 
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|  01-15-2008, 05:35 AM | #15 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: buffalo, las vegas. icq: 285808879 
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|  01-16-2008, 04:08 PM | #16 | 
| Ah My Balls Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 
					Posts: 14,311
				 | any news on the members area?  I think I am about to pull the plug on fling. 
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|  01-16-2008, 04:31 PM | #17 | |
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ 
					Posts: 13,337
				 | Quote: 
 Thanks  
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|  01-16-2008, 04:38 PM | #18 | 
| So Fucking What Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2006 
					Posts: 17,189
				 | my flings ..  
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|  01-16-2008, 04:45 PM | #19 | 
| GFY's Halfpint Industry Role:  Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK 
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				 | Give Loaded Cash a try in my sig.   | 
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|  01-16-2008, 04:47 PM | #20 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa 
					Posts: 19,631
				 | I still haven't gotten around to doing it but it looks like the post above mine answered the question. 2 upsells in the free. There shouldn't be any at all that don't lead to a $35 for the affiliate. Upsells are for paid members areas. 
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|  01-17-2008, 02:09 PM | #21 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 
					Posts: 378
				 | what a pain in the ass, just spent ages replacing aff with fling ...now i find this out.  Why does this kind of thing make such a small impact on gfy and why are not more people pissed off by this kind of thing? | 
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|  01-17-2008, 03:28 PM | #22 | |
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 
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|  01-17-2008, 03:37 PM | #23 | 
| I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox 
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				 | Yeah Fling really sucks.  I love how every time someone starts making less money it's someone else's fault. My free to paid ratio is so steady you could almost set your watch by it. 
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|  01-17-2008, 03:40 PM | #24 | |
| I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox 
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				 | Quote: 
 My guess is that they do. It would explain why they beat the living shit out of every other dating sponsor I've ever tried by a HUGE margin. 
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|  01-17-2008, 03:50 PM | #25 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: boogers 
					Posts: 5,791
				 | Signed up for a free account awhile ago... They upsell to Naked.com, Bangbros, and Nastydollars at discounted price 
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|  01-17-2008, 03:52 PM | #26 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: boogers 
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				 | A lot of dating sponsors upsell and that's why they are able ti afford the $35 signups and $100 promos... 
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|  01-17-2008, 03:59 PM | #27 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 
					Posts: 671
				 | It's good I've read this thread before trying them. 
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|  01-17-2008, 05:51 PM | #28 | 
| Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA 
					Posts: 32,422
				 | I upsell to FLing.. I couldn't give a shit what they do after that. | 
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|  01-17-2008, 05:54 PM | #29 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: LA 
					Posts: 1,495
				 | I just recently dropped fling. They are fucking retards. Their horrible customer service is what lost them the porn moguls sales. I also noticed their sales started converting much less so I dropped them. | 
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|  01-17-2008, 06:23 PM | #30 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 
					Posts: 321
				 | see dating gold sig | 
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|  01-17-2008, 06:24 PM | #31 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona 
					Posts: 8,437
				 | My fling conversions increase every pay period. 
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|  01-17-2008, 06:25 PM | #32 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 
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|  01-17-2008, 07:50 PM | #33 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa 
					Posts: 19,631
				 | Hmm, I wish i knew. I'm looking to send my dating traffic somewhere and fling was my number one pick until i read this. 
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|  01-17-2008, 08:46 PM | #34 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2004 
					Posts: 16,116
				 | FREE - 1:29  - 211 signups Paid - 1:249 - 25 signups 6,200 hits. Not a lot compared to some but pretty decent. 
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|  01-18-2008, 04:00 AM | #35 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2002 Location: Malaysia 
					Posts: 3,376
				 | Its no mystery that fling is going downhill..... how much is the paid user worth to fling? around $200 (rebills + upsells) how much do they pay you out of that? $35 Double that in todays market and it would be "reasonable". 
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|  01-18-2008, 10:51 AM | #36 | 
| MadZuma Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California 
					Posts: 6,436
				 | you can contact me to see what your options are. we pay per free, per sale or rev share. 
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|  01-18-2008, 10:52 AM | #37 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 
					Posts: 5,324
				 | try loadedcash please... check out my sig 
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|  01-18-2008, 11:17 AM | #38 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless 
					Posts: 62,911
				 | I have fling on a google adwords thing, and right now, I am 1:11 free, but no sales. Nothing major as the campaign just started, but I have 80 uniques If I dont start to see ROI by about 300 uniques, I will switch the companies. 
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|  01-18-2008, 12:49 PM | #39 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 
					Posts: 2,825
				 | they actually don't pay you for the members upsells... like someone else mentioned they have banners/text links for bangbros and nastydollars with their linking code it in... | 
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|  01-18-2008, 01:19 PM | #40 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Beach 
					Posts: 4,626
				 | Yeah I know... it is just downhill now it seems 6 months ago I ran two se ppc campaigns: ppccamp 333 53 6 $210.00 1:6 1:56 ppccamp2 659 73 11 $385.00 1:9 1:60 That's how stats should look... now it's not really doing it for me anymore... 
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|  01-18-2008, 01:19 PM | #41 | 
| Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 
					Posts: 12,591
				 | Also try something new thats converting amazing and paying $60 PPS http://www.getrichinporn.com/maintour.php/497/56/A | 
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|  01-18-2008, 01:28 PM | #42 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 
					Posts: 1,108
				 | Hit me on ICQ, thanks. Fling sucks for me as well, Free/Paid Joins Ratio: 1:35 | 
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|  01-18-2008, 01:29 PM | #43 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa 
					Posts: 19,631
				 | Are you talking about paid or free memberships though? I couldn't care less about upsells once i've got my $35 commission but upsells that i don't get credit for even before i make a dime from them sucks. 
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|  01-18-2008, 01:31 PM | #44 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 
					Posts: 2,825
				 | im talking about free... i signed up for a free account... and those were the upsells... they also have a new webcam site that they upsell called naked.com ... webmasters dont make money on any of those | 
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|  01-18-2008, 01:36 PM | #45 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mobile, AL 
					Posts: 1,647
				 | It's not just them, its all over the board, paid adult dating is DEAD thanks to facebook, myspace etc | 
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|  01-18-2008, 01:41 PM | #46 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa 
					Posts: 19,631
				 | I disagree. Myspace is losing popularity and facebook is all about people you already know. Conversions would be better if sites didn't have upsells and leaks all over the place. 
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|  01-18-2008, 02:31 PM | #47 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 
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|  01-18-2008, 02:53 PM | #48 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BA 
					Posts: 2,579
				 | The problem is that upsells are in the free members area which reduces chances to 1 in 4 of getting a paid signup ( unless they are paying those upsells to naked.com, the cams, etc which I don´t know ), then in the paid members area they have other upsells..... =( 
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|  01-18-2008, 03:01 PM | #49 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto 
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|  04-23-2008, 10:37 AM | #50 | 
| AK owns me! Join Date: Feb 2008 
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				 | datinggold is the real deal  | 
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