Babaganoosh

Don't you have a TGP you should be updating, kiddo?

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Babaganoosh

Yeah, lucky for you there aren't many of us out there. Most programmers know that a script that parses out video URLs from a gallery and then embeds them on a php page isn't worth $250 ($300 without a backlink ).

Someone should write one and charge what it's worth...about fifty bucks.

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Babaganoosh

If we were talking about custom scripts then ok but we're not. The author is subsidizing the cost of the program by selling multiple copies to whoever wants to purchase it.

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Juilan

Smokey hit it on the nail. The programmer is making available the script at a cheaper price for more customers by implementing branding and backlinks as a caveat. The market has shown it will bear a small fee like $50 to remove the brand. Zorgman's fee is totally in line with the value of the script and customer service you get form him. I was happy to pay it.

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Juilan

I do understand where your coming from Babaganoosh, because the market should not bear other coders like Photopost php where is costs $129 for the script and a whopping $100 for brand removal and no customer service. That's obscene in relation to the value of the script and customer service you don't get from Photopost php for instance.

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Babaganoosh

A fool and his money...

That "tevs" script or whatever it's called is really and truly very simple code. To add an additional $50 to the already out of line price of $250 is asinine. I assure you he's not doing anyone any favors by selling the script for $250.

I guess a script is worth what people are willing to pay.

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mike-al

there's some scripts that hide the branding thing till after you purchase... i think that crappy entertainmentscripts.com tube script charges you $100 after you purchase hiding that fact..


I dont see it a problem if it is shown... you get a discount on script if you dont mind the link.... most do so you pay full price.... no biggie, it does hurt the sellers sales that does this... The seller should sell the script at full price unbranded, then offer a cheaper solution with LINK, that would work a better situation

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Vick!

Whats wrong with it dude? They code script, they put it up for sale, they decide what prices/packages they should have. If you don't agree, don't buy. Why rant? Do they force you?

Pretty nonsense post.

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Babaganoosh

Reading comprehension isn't one of your strengths, is it? Go away, son. The grown-ups are talking.

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Juilan

Yep it's what the market will bear. You can call me a fool to pay only after you have experienced what the script can do and the level of support you get with Zorgman. Until you've fully experienced it, you are judging from an uninformed point of view.

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Zorgman

Babaganoosh, You use to own tgpdevil.com right? Just making sure im talking to the same person.

Im not sure why you didn't say TEVS when writting your threads, its only now that you bring my name into this thread.

Just some information.
I made my first tube site over 12 months ago. I showed a couple of big players and they liked it. Several purchased source code versions for their members area and free sites.

Over the last 7 months I have been working on a few sites for myself that used this same script. Videosxrated.com (now TEVS) was running the original script which used just flv clips. All clips where from movieprofits.com program and about 1-2 mins long (Fantastic program too). I soon realised that I need more controls over advertising.

A couple of months had pasted and I was asking if their was any webmasters interesting in using this script for their sites. Very few put their hands up. But I continued. Thanks to the beta testers too, you have done a great job!

About 2 months ago I asked webmasters about pricing for my tube script. From the 40 ICQ messages I sent out about half replied with $200-$500 and the others said $50-$150 - some even said free ( those cheap bastards ). So i needed a middle zone. Between $50 and $500. So I picked $250 per license. With the option to remove the "powered by" link for an extra $50 -- which is only 1/5 of the cost of the script.

While you might think $250 is alot, you have not considered this.
1. You can use your script FOREVER!
2. I write addons that are FREE (thats right FREE) to download.
3. Extra licenses are $80 cheaper.
4. I have a webmaster referal program, so some webmasters can make their money back.
5. I work closely with sponsors to make special addons to add your videos quicker. Example, PerfectGonzo addon 1110+ flash videos in under 4 minutes, along with PayServe's 16,000 videos. These files are updated monthly with new movies.
6. 16 hours a day tech support (I have to sleep), 7 days a week.

This all takes time to create, update and support. Im sure as a program you know this. So why is $50 such a big deal?

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Babaganoosh

Yep, you're talking to the same person. I didn't bring up your name. Someone else did. I had never heard of your script before this thread. You were the one who smarted off so technically you brought it on yourself.

Believe me, I understand the work that's required to get a script completely developed and fix all the bugs, security and speed issues that might present themselves as the script matures but let's face it, what your script does is not difficult. What it does have is a nice, finished look and more than likely some great support. That's worth something. Not $250 in my opinion but something.

Since you brought it up, why IS $50 such a big deal? Why charge customers another measly $50 just to not pimp a script that they have already paid for? Most of the people that see that little link at the bottom are surfers who have no need to see that info. My only guess is that it's to collect backlinks.

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Zorgman

So if you where not refering about TEVS, then please show us which script you where referring to.

Don't think of it as $50 more, think of of it as $50 less then the the full price ($300). I had a lot of webmasters asking which script I was running for Videosxrated. I didn't have anything to tell them at the time. Webmasters will visit other webmaster sites to see what they use, how they advertise. etc. It's how we all learn.

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madfuck

thats some bullshit, but hey whatever

madfuck

thats ome bullshit, but hey whatever

madfuck

thats some bullshit, but hey whatever

sortie

See Sig...

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farkedup

put your money where your mouth is... until you do you're not earning respect from anybody here....

You simply can't offer a script for $50 that does everything TEVS does. If you come up with it then you've got my respect and the respect from tons of members here....

You say you're a programmer....

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Rui

Its a shame...shit at least make the normal one $50 and the unbranded $75...

As it is, its like if they were taking the piss...

Zorgman

$50 script. Awesome Sortie. Thats what Babaganoosh wants.

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sortie

Hey, I don't blame you for charging more. After all, you probably spent a whole lot of time hacking my script to figure out how it works so you could write yours.

You have to recover that cost some how.

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You are the hardest guy on the internet.

Fucking moron. Internet gangsta fo' sure.

B's up, throw them keys up, n1gga.

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Zorgman

Sortie, I wrote my script over 12 months ago. Before you even joined GFY. Get over yourself.

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sortie

Oh, so you think I've only been around since I join GFY.

Hey, look at econfirmpro.com, It was written by me to use with TGSW.
Do you even know what TGSW was?!!!!!???

I wrote the first TGP gallery submission email confirmation script on the internet. I got copied then, I'll be copied again. Nothing new.

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sortie

PS: Are you claiming that 12 months ago you crawled hosted galleries like tubecgi but yet you didn't realese a script until months after I did?

Man, your webpages even have some of the exact same code.

Nigga Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Zorgman

I have NEVER heard of that script before. It must have been an AMAZING system. Where is it now?

Never heard of econfirmpro either.

Im not a Nigga and I think some people, including myself -- might find that offensive.

For starters your code is some old shit CGI crap, while TEVS is php/mysql which you dont even use. How can you clame its the same code.

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Babaganoosh

You know what's cool about being self-employed? I don't need any respect from anyone. Especially from mouthy nobodies on a board called go fuck yourself.

Actually, I am going to write my own. It won't be flashy. Its admin will be very basic with no fluff and no eye candy but it will work and work well. It also won't be for sale.

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Babaganoosh

Isn't it a little arrogant to think I was referring to your script? There are tons of scripts out there that offer an unbranded version for an extra fee.

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Zorgman

How could I think otherwise? My script is the only one you have been talking about for 8 replies now.

Answer my question, which one were you refering too? Please make this clear to everyone here!

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farkedup

There's nothing either of us can do that can possibly HELP our causes. He has his mind made up and there's no point arguing with a wall.

Our customers know the point we're making...

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Babaganoosh

The thread wasn't about any script in particular. It's now pretty common for scripts to engage in backlink asshattery. The topic was when did webmasters become so complacent about this kind of bullshit.

I had never even heard of your script when I made this thread. If it was about your script, believe me I would have specifically named it.

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Jinx

This is bullshit, if I want $500 for the code and I throw you a bone and only charge $200 and then $300 if you wish to remove my linkback because I value it at that you shouldn't bitch, grow up.

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LOL You're...to easy.

NEXT

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I concur. There's a bunch of fuckin poor cry-babies in this thread.

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2MuchMark

Babaganoosh,

You paid for the right to USE the software, not for the right to remove the ownership note or claim ownership yourself.

There is nothing wrong with letting script or program writers to include a "Powered By" mention or link in their software. In fact it is even bennificial to you. Why? Because the more people see their name, the more software they sell, the more money they have to support you and to improve their product which is GOOD FOR YOU.

Give credit where credit is due. Congradulations on a good script, Zorgman. Stick to your guns and keep your "Powered by" link on YOUR software. You didn't write it sell 1 or two - you sold it to sell THOUSANDS. Don't get pushed around.

Cheers!

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2MuchMark

Babaganoosh, clearly the script is worth much more than that. If it's so simple why don't you write it yourself? Once you have spent 80 hours on it, why don't you sell it to 1 person for only $250.00? Or isn't your time worth more than $3.125 per hour?

m

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gideongallery

your forgetting the support cost that are associated
the more people you sell to the more people you have to complain ask for new feature etc.

cost scale with the number of people too.

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Babaganoosh

80 hours? Why in the world would a script like that take 80 hours to write?

Those of you that think the script is worth it have no idea how to code. If you did, you'd realize you are buying a simple script with a nice gui. The gui took more time to do than the part of the script that does the work. If it's worth it to you, great. Spend away.

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farkedup

nice looking GUI, refining shit for the less technical people, and generally refining a product always takes more time than the "core". I can honestly say I've spent more time on making it prettier and easier to use than I ever did to just make it work...

nobody other than you will want something that works but is hard to use and ugly. might get the same "job" done but that doesn't mean its the same thing.

When I was selling my script for $30 I was finding too often I ended up spending about 2 hours on the support end of things which destroyed any possible profit but I was chalking it up as development costs to refine the script for the future. Mines sitting at $60 currently and I could certainly see a price increase in the future. After I launch my affiliate program and start cutting other people in on things and continued support for old customers I can see where I may need to increase the cost even more.

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nation-x

Yeah your right... thx for putting me in my place... sometimes I need that... I shouldn't be wasting my time posting in stupid ass threads like this one... after all I AM a programmer... and have been selling scripts for years now... so I don't think I have anything relevant to say. I don't have a day job... so I probably should shut the fuck up now.

Naughty-Pages

Actually, i kind of agree with having to pay extra to remove the link..

You have to look at it form their point of view.. They're discounting the price in exchange for advertising.

The big problem is they are wording it wrong.

They should say the regular unbranded price is $100, but a branded option is available at a discounted rate of $25.

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FightThisPatent

instead of thinking you are paying more to remove the link, how about thinking of it as paying less because of the link?

Fight the glass half empty!

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fusionx

Think of it as a discount with the link, and standard price without.

If you don't like it, buy another script. Why waste your time posting on message boards and arguing about it?