Babaganoosh

When did it become ok to sell a script but still stick a "powered by" link at the bottom of all of the public pages? If you don't want to show that link, then you can pay an additional fee for an "unbranded" license. If you released a free script, by all means add a powered by link. When I pay for a script, I certainly am not paying for the right to advertise and build backlinks for you as well.

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After Shock Media

Many scripts I have seen do have the option of paying for a small upgrade to legally remove it, or you can just go in and hack it out yourself illegally of course.

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Babaganoosh

I don't bother. It's not worth the fight. If they try to advertise their script to my surfers, I won't use the script. I'm not paying their silly little fee to remove their link either. Peddling their script to surfers makes absolutely no sense. Surely they are just doing it to build backlinks.

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lbc213

Yeah its pretty annoying, I have seen some places that charge almost double for a un branded version.

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http://www.phplinkdirectory.com/

$25 with a link back and $75 to be able to remove the link. Pretty shocking.

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Babaganoosh

Wow, 3x the price of the script to remove their link? Haha, fuck them.

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pinkz

i know of one that has your ref code in the powered by link.

so its not all bad!

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Babaganoosh

This is the mindset that prompted my post. When did it become ok for them to force you to link back to their site when you paid for the script?

Oh, and I am a programmer. I don't need to pay anyone to do any programming for me.

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Babaganoosh

That's a pretty good idea. That would be a lot more acceptable. Still messed up but I could deal with that.

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Zamiboy

I'm selling some of my scripts and i woud not dare to force any links to my site on paid script. If i'm giving some of them out for free of charge, then i think it is just fair to show link to my site.

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Violetta

Babaganoosh? Who are you? Nick change?

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aico

why should scripts be any different than cars, t-shirts, pants, candy, pizza, beer, etc, etc, etc, etc...?

Jace

i can remove those logos

most scripts are zend encoded so you can't remove the link

pinkz

LinkX jmbsoft.com

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ichauch

Many of the commercial script are like this.

Look at the bottom of the page and see that gfy does not run a branding-free version, either.

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sortie

I don't put that in any paid scripts, but I really don't think it's a big deal.
If a surfer is looking for porn they are not going to click that link.

When I used free hosting and free scripts I had those kinds of links all over but it didn't affect my adult sign ups at all.

It seems you're more upset about not having control over it than it actually causing you harm.

If they tell you to pay more to get it removed then consider that they feel like the cheaper price is not enough to pay for the script but will sell it cheap if they can get traffic back.

It's not like they are controling you. It's more like, if you want to be cheap then ok, but you need to send them traffic.

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borked

what sortie said

The basic price with linkback in there is that price because the programmer feels the script is being undersold, but is willing to take that hit for the traffic back and possible full-price sales.

Live with it. If you're a programmer, like you say, then write your own and stop whinging. If you can't, then pay the full price and be gone with the link.

Nuff said.

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candyflip

I purchased TEVS and zorgman has the same setup. I was a bit miffed at that, but still purchased the software. The "pros" outweighed the on "con".

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Babaganoosh

Armed & Hammered. Changed my nick a couple of years ago I think.

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candyflip

A looooooooooooooong time ago. Probably one of the first nick changes.

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Babaganoosh

No, they aren't controlling me because I don't buy scripts that have a link back to the developer on the publicly viewable pages. Frankly I think that if they want a link to their site on my site, they need to pay me.

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Babaganoosh

Yeah, I saw a couple of people change their nicks before me and since I am rarely hammered now the name didn't suit me anymore. I've used the name online since I was in my late teens. I just needed a change.

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Babaganoosh

You must be one of the programmers that I am talking about. So if I charge you $500 for a script then it's going to be cool with you if I make you link back to me? Really? Does that make sense to you?

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Babaganoosh

Doesn't that script just parse hosted galleries for the URL to the video and then imbed it on a page? It's not really a "tube" script with encoding to .flv or anything is it?

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k0nr4d

heh how many threads have you seen that start what "hey what script is xxxxxxx.com running?" It's not to build backlinks, its marketing. If you don't like having the link at the bottom, either pay them to remove it, pay someone else to remove it for you, hack it out yourself, or find a different script.

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CunningStunt

one of my pet peeves as well.

it's like all the "free wordpress templates" assholes who stick links all over the footer and try and stick them elsewhere.

Babaganoosh

I don't care about freebies. If you didn't pay you can't bitch. If I pay for a script, nobody is going to be using it to advertise on my site.

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pornask

I'm just throwing my $.02 is all.

Programmers put some time and effort into these scripts. I think they deserve something in return. I hate backlinks just the same, but I paid the fee to have it removed from my topsites and I keep them on my wordpress blogs. I know they just want backlinks, but look at it from the standpoint of a programmer. It does take some dedication to create something. I don't have an issue with giving them something back in return ;)

candyflip

Pretty much. My girlfriend said she could have put something similar together, but Zorgman put together a nice package. If this pans out, that may still be an option.

TEVS is more like an MPG script that capitalizes on the "tube" look and feel. There's no user uploading and no flv encoding. Though, you can use flv video.

The admin is great and support has been as well. That might have me consider the $50 to remove the linkage as a tip.

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horvy

vbulletin is one of the greatest pieces of interent software ever made. shut up

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gideongallery

depends if it was a script that would cost me 1500 to do myself then i would be willing too

if it was a script that would cost me 600 dollars then i would eat the extra hundred to get rid of the link

It a marketing approach if they release un unlinked version (regular price) and gave a discount competitors which reversed the transaction (like your complaining) could/would make price comparisions that make them look too expensive

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VicD

easy money for the script writer

Nookster

How about make your own software or simply follow their rules. If you can't do either you shouldn't be in the biz.

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farkedup

on my script its currently $20 extra to remove the link.

If they want to remove the link its not that much extra.... If you want to remove without paying the extra there isn't shit that I can do about it. Except maybe deny you of some support possibly but if you know your shit you likely won't ever need it anyway.

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Babaganoosh

Actually I can do both. I have been a programmer for over 10 years. I also used to sell scripts. My scripts never had a link back to my site anywhere the public would see them. Try to learn who you are lipping off to before you go and make an ass out of yourself. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be on GFY.

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farkedup

WTF are you talking about? isn't that about all there is here? This place would be pretty empty if we couldn't run our mouths without a clue about who we're talking to....

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Linguist

I don't see what the problem is.

The link of the bottom is a part of license agreement to use the software. You don't own the script, the fact that you're paying money to use it doesn't change it. If you feel that you're not getting money's worth then go somewhere else.

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OzMan

GFY is the only place I can get away with running my mouth without a clue who I'm talking to OR what I'm talking about.

Nookster

LOL I don't give a fuck who you are. I was just telling you what's what. If you don't like it ignore me. If you really don't like it, we can handle it other ways. Best to check around before you start threatening people you don't even know.

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Linguist

I am one of those programmers and it's totally cool with me. If it's a cheapass script that doesn't do much then I wouldn't pay money whether it links to someone or not but if it's worth the money I'd use it with a linkback. Having an option of having 1 less outgoing link is nice but not everyone would need it. If someone needs it I don't see a problem of paying extra to remove it.

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cykoe6

Yea it pisses me off too. Linkx is a good example.

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DaLord

If the script is free (like PHP fusion) I don't mind the link but don't fucking try to charge me AND at the same time add a link.

mrthumbs

Those links are as lame as changing your gfy nick

nation-x

it's been like that for ages... stfu with the crying. whiny bitch

Zorgman

Good thing you are a programmer then.

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SmokeyTheBear

you get what you pay for.

The program is likely subsidizing the cost of the program itself by having backlinks.

i dont see the problem with it unless they arent upfront about it. Its more like they are offering you a deal, not screwing you.

lets use a simple example to explain.

lets pretend you hired me to code you an upload script, lets say it takes me $500 in labour , now lets say i offer to sell you the script . if i sell it for $500 i make money , if i sell it less than $500 i lose money. but if i sell it for $100 and put backlinks on every page , the overall worth to me is $500 but it saves you $400 in labour, im giving you the choice to buy a product for cheaper than it costs to make in exchange for backlinks.

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SmokeyTheBear

thats one way to look at it . or you can look at it like the script cost $75 , you can get it for a discount if you sell backlinks on every page for $50

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I don't see the problem, either...

The link is, apparently, just another method of compensation. Say the code costs $x... for those that don't wanna pay $x, there's another method of payment offered: ($x - $y) + promoting the author of the script.

You look at it and see a programmer charging you more to remove a link. I look at it and see a programmer charging you less for marketing.

If you don't agree with the terms, don't use/buy the product. Go elsewhere. In theory, we're a free market.

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modF

I don't mind it so much, most of the scripts in adult are way cheap anyhow. I have found some of my best scripts by looking at other sites. If you don't want to remove the link, don't cheap out. That's all.

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