Why NATS over the CCBill Affilliate program? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Deej · 01-12-2008, 01:32 PM

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Mark_E4A · 01-12-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

I agree 8 months is long enough to know something is not right. It also seems obvious by your statement that something was wrong because if the sales jumped that quickly then links were not working correctly. It happens to the best of them.

nothing was set up incorrect, people were hitting my join page, but from there they were not hitting the billers, a small very small ammount did

i honestly believe it is the fact that they are sent to a page that asks for info first and not straight to a join page.

i used the SAME TOUR
I used the SAME TRAFFIC
the ONLY thing i did diff was the info on the join page
the nats join page had the nats info to fill out first
the ccbill join page had the ccbill join links for the diff options

and a hell of alot more surfers make it to the forms on the ccbill join page

it was not that it was set up wrong at all.

Deej · 01-12-2008, 01:44 PM

I have to say, Mark went through a lot of testing and traffic pushing when he was in the midst of this NATS/CCBill test..

NATS was very helpful and always there to assist in the transition...

in the end, NATS just did not work out for his program and traffic...

i really couldnt chalk it up to be lack of experience from Mark's side... hes always looking for the new innovative technique and always following up on what works for affiliates and business.... always...

who knows why ... i just dont think it was due to a lack of know how...

Fucking myself · 01-12-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

Why not use Nats with CCBill as the processor; I ever recall someone mentioning that you can still have CCBill handle the payments.

With this setup you can add other processors at a later date and not have all your affiliates change links.

Bullseye !! We run NATS but offer a CCBill paid program as well.

Fucking myself · 01-12-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by corvette

I have to comment on this. We take all steps possible to make sure that our join pages are quickly available around the world, including recently implementing a content delivery network to serve our signup page content. If you have any examples of connectivity issues with our join pages, please send that info to [email protected] asap. I would be very interested.

The CDN looks great but if you have Strongbox or an obscure CMS then prepare for many hours of setup and discussion on how to make CDN work with those.

notoldschool · 01-12-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

in the end, NATS just did not work out for his program and traffic...

I would agree with this.

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Originally Posted by Mark_E4A

nothing was set up incorrect, people were hitting my join page, but from there they were not hitting the billers, a small very small ammount did

i honestly believe it is the fact that they are sent to a page that asks for info first and not straight to a join page.

i used the SAME TOUR
I used the SAME TRAFFIC
the ONLY thing i did diff was the info on the join page
the nats join page had the nats info to fill out first
the ccbill join page had the ccbill join links for the diff options

and a hell of alot more surfers make it to the forms on the ccbill join page

it was not that it was set up wrong at all.

First of all I never said you had the install all wrong. Many times its a very small detail that loses you a big amount of income. If your not carefull with all your older pages and files that used to send you traffic you might never know why it happens.

Deej · 01-12-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

me either. The problem occurs though. i have been dealing with it for years. The join pages and admin login time out when used behind lynksys routers. Most people wont know how to open up ports to stop this either. I have tried from many different computers and its always the same problem. i actually dropped them as my primary for just that reason.

I had this very same issue for over a year, I would have to disconnect my router from the rest of my setup to access ccbill login and join page.

so i hit up Corvett just now, and found out the problem is resolved,

take a minute and check to see if you still encounter the issue...

I just passed right through and I use a lynksys router too..

fixed recently, enjoy

corvette · 01-12-2008, 02:53 PM

notoldschool, what you are referring to with linksys routers is no longer an issue for signup forms. please feel free to verify this and please let me know if that is not the case

Dagwolf · 01-12-2008, 03:22 PM

Apples and oranges..

u-Bob · 01-12-2008, 04:42 PM

CCBill: i hate their interface and i hate checks.

Deej · 01-12-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

CCBill: i hate their interface and i hate checks.

Does fine by me...

I like checks from anyone

justsexxx · 01-13-2008, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

I have spoken to your techs about this situation many times over the years and I dont believe it will help if I personally adress the issue again. Tell your techs to buy a linksys router and try to login to the admin, then try the same for a ccbill join page. Im not saying it happens with everyone, but im saying that it happens everytime I have tried. I love ccbill as a company. You guys are always helpfull, always thinking of security for your customers, and you send my wire and checks every monday like clockwork.

I use a linksys router as well, and never had problems...What type of router are you using?

notoldschool · 01-13-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

I use a linksys router as well, and never had problems...What type of router are you using?

etherfast firewall router and it still times out on all of my computers. I dont think its a fix that will happen in 10 minutes because I have been inquiring since 03.

corvette · 01-13-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

etherfast firewall router and it still times out on all of my computers. I dont think its a fix that will happen in 10 minutes because I have been inquiring since 03.

well, i found out the issue was occuring because we were using a certain type of hardware, which we switched out recently on the machines that load up the signup forms (not yet on the admin servers). we would like to see why its still timing out on your network. the admin should be the same as before, but the signup pages should load

kesey · 01-14-2008, 12:05 AM

Wow. Thanks guys. Have to confess a lot of this was over my head, but I read it all and I can learn -- eventually. Mark, I'll call you.

Thanks.

Kesey

xdcdave · 01-14-2008, 12:37 AM

I tend to promote ccbill programs with more consistency than NATS programs personally, its partially due to the convenience factor of having them all go on one check a week and secondly to the fact that I tend to get better conversions with smaller programs.

Shey · 01-14-2008, 01:06 AM

As an affiliate that promotes over 400 programs, I can tell you that the biggest appeal of CCBill for us is the fact that I get 1 central payment on time every time. And to me that is a big plus. Their reporting is not so bad once you get used to it so it's no big deal to us.

On the other hand, NATS is easier on the backend, campaign functionality and reporting BUT you have to trust the program owners to pay their bills. We do our research every time but I can tell you I've had a few programs disappear on us owing us on the upwards of a couple thousand bucks.

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01-12-2008, 01:44 PM	#53
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	I have to say, Mark went through a lot of testing and traffic pushing when he was in the midst of this NATS/CCBill test.. NATS was very helpful and always there to assist in the transition... in the end, NATS just did not work out for his program and traffic... i really couldnt chalk it up to be lack of experience from Mark's side... hes always looking for the new innovative technique and always following up on what works for affiliates and business.... always... who knows why ... i just dont think it was due to a lack of know how... __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

01-12-2008, 02:53 PM	#58
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	notoldschool, what you are referring to with linksys routers is no longer an issue for signup forms. please feel free to verify this and please let me know if that is not the case __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

01-12-2008, 03:22 PM	#59
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xdcdave Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: North East Posts: 1,911	I tend to promote ccbill programs with more consistency than NATS programs personally, its partially due to the convenience factor of having them all go on one check a week and secondly to the fact that I tend to get better conversions with smaller programs. __________________

01-12-2008, 04:42 PM	#60
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01-14-2008, 12:05 AM	#65
kesey Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 305	Wow. Thanks guys. Have to confess a lot of this was over my head, but I read it all and I can learn -- eventually. Mark, I'll call you. Thanks. Kesey

01-14-2008, 01:06 AM	#67
Shey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,654	As an affiliate that promotes over 400 programs, I can tell you that the biggest appeal of CCBill for us is the fact that I get 1 central payment on time every time. And to me that is a big plus. Their reporting is not so bad once you get used to it so it's no big deal to us. On the other hand, NATS is easier on the backend, campaign functionality and reporting BUT you have to trust the program owners to pay their bills. We do our research every time but I can tell you I've had a few programs disappear on us owing us on the upwards of a couple thousand bucks. __________________ Regards, Shey <at> datePROFITS.com\| ICQ: 279858568 \| Skype: sheysworld \| Y!M: sheyla702 datePROFITS: Every Niche of ExGF Dating Sites!