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pornask 01-09-2008 08:27 PM

looks like you can safely post links. Members can't post links only if they have less than 30 posts (you have over 200)

please post links, cause this thread smells of so much bullshit it makes me nauseous...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-09-2008 08:32 PM

Great response Chad...

Simply because someone feels remorse after the fact, especially for something which they were made aware about and paid for (and it is the model's third time working for Kink), this is not cause for action, or to try and impugn the reputation of a company that has the respect of most people in the industry.

Personally, I dislike extreme content, especially when it suggests violence against women (or men for that matter), however when you take into account the process Kink has in place, I see know grounds for complaint.

If the model wants to make it a criminal or civil issue, there are avenues for that. Using a forum to make claims seems frivolous at best, and malicious at worst.

:2 cents:

ADG

chadknowslaw 01-09-2008 08:35 PM

Thanks Pornask. I thought it was 1000 posts or something like that.

The interviews are both being encoded now and I had promised to post the links in the morning, but I will stay late so if the encoders get them done and uploaded I will post links tonight.

Chef86 01-09-2008 08:39 PM

I still can't believe that no one from kink has actually posted in this thread yet.. so many views and replies as well...

pornask 01-09-2008 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteknight (Post 13631617)
I still can't believe that no one from kink has actually posted in this thread yet.. so many views and replies as well...

looks like Chad is from Kink :2 cents:

chadknowslaw 01-09-2008 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteknight (Post 13631617)
I still can't believe that no one from kink has actually posted in this thread yet.. so many views and replies as well...

I am the senior counsel from Kink and posted as such. My response is the first official response. Persons who were directly involved with the actual shoot will be posting shortly.

2012 01-09-2008 08:56 PM

where do I sign up ?
 
http://www.sexphotoblog.com/fish-hooked-by-a-tranny.gif

Chef86 01-09-2008 08:56 PM

Oh I didn't know I figured you were just posting legal advice and opinion

chadknowslaw 01-09-2008 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteknight (Post 13631643)
Oh I didn't know I figured you were just posting legal advice and opinion


No worries. :thumbsup

Kinky Dollars 01-09-2008 09:18 PM

Response from Marty, the Director of WhippedAss.com:

As the director of this shoot, I can tell you that the shoot did not happen the way it was described here. The model was treated with dignity and respect, exactly how we treat every model. I gave her as much information about the scene as possible, and let her know that she was in control.

I let her know that it's ultimately up to her with how intense the shoot will be and that we'd work within her limits and what she was comfortable with. I made sure she knew her safe word, which was "red" and that if a gag was in her mouth, her non-verbal safe word would then be "uh-uh" or to shake her head from side to side. As I do with all models, I checked in with her multiple times throughout each scene and made sure she was ok even without her using the safe word.

Before the shoot, she let us know that she was on her period. She specifically requested to try anal and was very excited about it, though it was to be her first time. We gave her plenty of time off camera to prep and there was no blood on the dildo after.

It was cold in that particular set and we realized that one heater wasn't enough, so we added a second heater that warmed the set up. There was running water in the room but it was completely dry around the shooting area.

We used a small shocking device that she agreed to have tested on her without cameras to see if she was ok with it and she said it was fine. In the post interview she actually says that the shocker was scary but wasn't actually as painful as she expected.

I, along with the rest of the staff, did everything possible to make her experience a safe, consensual, sane and enjoyable as possible. She absolutely was not forced to do anything against her will. She showed no signs of being traumatized after the shoot. She seemed happy and in good spirits.

The pre & post interviews are being encoded right now, and we will be posting them here on GFY so that everyone can view for themselves.

Cheers,

Marty
Director of WhippedAss.com

baddog 01-09-2008 09:18 PM

50 nipple twisters

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena (Post 13631081)
If I were talent, I'd love to shoot for Kink sites.

ah, a little insight I think . . . . you like being spanked? tied up?

L-Pink 01-09-2008 09:19 PM

I think someone had bruises or marks that caused problems at home. (my 2cents)

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-09-2008 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinky Dollars (Post 13631703)
Response from Marty, the Director of WhippedAss.com:

As the director of this shoot, I can tell you that the shoot did not happen the way it was described here. The model was treated with dignity and respect, exactly how we treat every model. I gave her as much information about the scene as possible, and let her know that she was in control.

I let her know that it's ultimately up to her with how intense the shoot will be and that we'd work within her limits and what she was comfortable with. I made sure she knew her safe word, which was "red" and that if a gag was in her mouth, her non-verbal safe word would then be "uh-uh" or to shake her head from side to side. As I do with all models, I checked in with her multiple times throughout each scene and made sure she was ok even without her using the safe word.

Before the shoot, she let us know that she was on her period. She specifically requested to try anal and was very excited about it, though it was to be her first time. We gave her plenty of time off camera to prep and there was no blood on the dildo after.

It was cold in that particular set and we realized that one heater wasn't enough, so we added a second heater that warmed the set up. There was running water in the room but it was completely dry around the shooting area.

We used a small shocking device that she agreed to have tested on her without cameras to see if she was ok with it and she said it was fine. In the post interview she actually says that the shocker was scary but wasn't actually as painful as she expected.

I, along with the rest of the staff, did everything possible to make her experience a safe, consensual, sane and enjoyable as possible. She absolutely was not forced to do anything against her will. She showed no signs of being traumatized after the shoot. She seemed happy and in good spirits.

The pre & post interviews are being encoded right now, and we will be posting them here on GFY so that everyone can view for themselves.

Cheers,

Marty
Director of WhippedAss.com

http://pictureserver.funnyjunk.com/pics2/wupass.jpg

ADG

DBS.US 01-09-2008 09:25 PM

This story only helps promote KINK. This is what bondage guys love to fantasize about. Where is your affiliate link?

baddog 01-09-2008 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinky Dollars (Post 13631703)

The pre & post interviews are being encoded right now, and we will be posting them here on GFY so that everyone can view for themselves.

Cheers,

Marty
Director of WhippedAss.com

Love it. :thumbsup

Ayla_SquareTurtle 01-09-2008 09:31 PM

Great, professional response from Kink, as expected.

Kinky Dollars 01-09-2008 09:59 PM

The Post-shoot Interview
 
Here is a link to the interview conducted directly after the shoot:

http://news-data.behindkink.com/reso...eInterview.wmv

The pre-shoot interview is now being encoded and will be posted shortly.

L-Pink 01-09-2008 10:01 PM

"I got goose-bumps when you stick it in my butt" (big smile)

Great interview!

NinjaSteve 01-09-2008 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 13630935)
yes there is a safe word. I have a hard time believing this. They have well known BDSM models who are willing to return for literally dozens of shoots. Why would these performers do it if they were being abused? Does this model claim that things were done to her even after she asked them to stop?

The story posted doesn't sound good but I agree with you.

Hunter_ST 01-09-2008 10:05 PM

She sounds fine to me in the post interview... good work, kink.com.

L-Pink 01-09-2008 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 13631810)
The story posted doesn't sound good but I agree with you.

Watch the post-interview. Makes this thread a real joke. :Oh crap

Ayla_SquareTurtle 01-09-2008 10:11 PM

That interview speaks for itself.

quote "I would do anything again with you."

It would seem that either the model was less than honest about the experience when speaking to the OP or else the OP was less than honest himself.

selena 01-09-2008 10:14 PM

The interview puts an end to any and all speculation.

baddog 01-09-2008 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinky Dollars (Post 13631796)
Here is a link to the interview conducted directly after the shoot:

http://news-data.behindkink.com/reso...eInterview.wmv

The pre-shoot interview is now being encoded and will be posted shortly.

First off, while this isn't my thing, great set. I may have to consider promoting you guys. It looks like it must be great.

And the chick being interviewed is in love. You can tell she had a great time and would follow the other chick to the ends of the earth.

baddog 01-09-2008 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena (Post 13631841)
The interview puts an end to any and all speculation.

you can still answer my question :)

selena 01-09-2008 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13631846)
you can still answer my question :)


Sorry, I missed it.

I like all manner of things. :)

d-null 01-09-2008 10:20 PM

HOLY SHIT that chick is HOT!!

what a great post interview, would love to see the video :thumbsup

baddog 01-09-2008 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena (Post 13631852)
Sorry, I missed it.

I like all manner of things. :)

I will take that as I yes.

What is your safe word?

Forkbeard 01-09-2008 10:24 PM

I've promoted Kink.com for years, and I knew the original post was some kind of bullshit as soon as I read it. Kink.com has a spectacular reputation in the BDSM world and among their talent. They're like Playboy back in the day, everybody wants to work with them.

Some of their stuff is heavy, but then you look at the post-scene interviews, with their models jazzed on endorphins and happy as proverbial clams. It's amazing, and it's consistent, and it's the work of skilled professionals who don't need to cut any corners. As the response here shows.

Somebody was trying to stir shit.

pocketkangaroo 01-09-2008 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13631844)
First off, while this isn't my thing, great set. I may have to consider promoting you guys. It looks like it must be great.

And the chick being interviewed is in love. You can tell she had a great time and would follow the other chick to the ends of the earth.

I can't even begin to tell you how well this stuff converts. These bondage/fetish guys are big spenders. Their retention rate is literally double any other program I've ever promoted.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-09-2008 10:39 PM

I watched the video, and while Kayden seemed okay, I noted about halfway through the video that there was a discussion of another shoot to follow the same day (Kayden: "in five minutes", other girl: "as soon as we are done with this (interview)".

Is there a post-shoot interview from the subsequent scene, or did that shoot not occur?

ADG

Ayla_SquareTurtle 01-09-2008 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 13631919)
I watched the video, and while Kayden seemed okay, I noted about halfway through the video that there was a discussion of another shoot to follow the same day (Kayden: "in five minutes", other girl: "as soon as we are done with this (interview)".

Is there a post-shoot interview from the subsequent scene, or did that shoot not occur?

ADG

I took that part of things to be a joke.

Top says "Tomorrow I'll come. You'll still be tied up here"

Kayden says "I have to get back on there in like five minutes"

Top says "Soon as we're done with this" and Kayden laughs a bit.

I could be wrong but I did not think they were talking about an upcoming shoot, just joking around.

baddog 01-09-2008 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13631898)
I can't even begin to tell you how well this stuff converts. These bondage/fetish guys are big spenders. Their retention rate is literally double any other program I've ever promoted.

This stuff being BDSM or Kink in particular?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-09-2008 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 13631967)
I took that part of things to be a joke.

Top says "Tomorrow I'll come. You'll still be tied up here"

Kayden says "I have to get back on there in like five minutes"

Top says "Soon as we're done with this" and Kayden laughs a bit.

I could be wrong but I did not think they were talking about an upcoming shoot, just joking around.

That exchange could be interpretted more than one way, which is why I asked if she shot any subsequent scenes, and if so, is there a follow-up video?

So far, Kink seems to be on the up and up, and it seems far fetched for anyone to claim Kayden was abused (beyond what she contracted for :helpme), but the referenced exchange at least makes one ask if this is all there was, or if there was more.

Should be an easy one for Chad/Kink to answer...

ADG

chadknowslaw 01-09-2008 11:35 PM

It is my understanding that the scene in question was shot yesterday, which brings the claims of nightmares into question, and she did not appear in any scenes today so no subsequent shoots.

There are pre-scene and post-scene interviews for every model, for every shoot. They are not encoded yet and all the encoders have gone home. I can get them to encode and upload those in the morning.
I myself am getting ready to call it a day and pack my bags for Vegas!

:thumbsup

baddog 01-09-2008 11:40 PM

see you there Mr Belville

chadknowslaw 01-10-2008 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13632012)
see you there Mr Belville

Don't you think you are being a bit too formal??? Mr. Belville is my dad~

baddog 01-10-2008 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadknowslaw (Post 13632058)
Don't you think you are being a bit too formal??? Mr. Belville is my dad~

He isn't going to be there?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-10-2008 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadknowslaw (Post 13632003)
It is my understanding that the scene in question was shot yesterday, which brings the claims of nightmares into question, and she did not appear in any scenes today so no subsequent shoots.

There are pre-scene and post-scene interviews for every model, for every shoot. They are not encoded yet and all the encoders have gone home. I can get them to encode and upload those in the morning.
I myself am getting ready to call it a day and pack my bags for Vegas!

:thumbsup

"It is my understanding...", followed later by, "she did not appear in any scenes today so no subsequent shoots."

That is a lawyer-like answer. Then you go on to say other encoding is ongoing, which is irrelevent if it does not pertain to Kayden, and what was posted is her final interview with Kink.

http://user.personal.fi/private/colu...s/columbo.jpeg

One more thing...

The reason a flag was raised is that there could be some possible mis-direction involved when you say she did not appear in any subsequent scenes "today".

If I may re-phrase my question, was the post-shoot interview which was posted, created after the final scene that Kayden shot for Kink?

Otherwise, if there was another subsequent shoot with Kayden that same day as the interview posted, is there a post-shoot interview for that scene as well?

If she shot a scene following the interview posted earlier, and there is no subsequent interview, then it would seem that leaves room for Kayden's claims.

ADG

chadknowslaw 01-10-2008 12:22 AM

The scene in question was shot yesterday. The interview that was posted was filmed after that scene.

She did not appear in any scenes today, so yesterday was her last shoot.

I intended to have the other pre- and post-scene interviews from her other scenes encoded and uploaded, although those were all prior to the scene from yesterday.




So, the answer to your question is an unequivocal "YES"

The interview that was posted was filmed after the last scene she shot for Kink.com




Sorry about the legal-ese. I didn't mean to sound like I was dancing around the question, but as I read it back it did. Does that answer your question?


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