Beer in the US

[donborno]

Wikipedia tells me that in the US beer contains a maximum of 4.5% alcohol, and everything above is called malt liquor. Is that true? Do you really use that word? Do you buy malt liquor or are you satisfied with the 4.5%?

[sortie]

True.

But, a year ago I drank beer in Canada and haven't been able to take a shit yet!

[sortie]

Wait, that is basically correct but I think Budweiser is 5% and still beer.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

budweiser is NOT beer. i don't know what that piss is...

[sortie]

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts

budweiser is NOT beer. i don't know what that piss is...

What do you drink, Zima?

[Shakula]

Budweiser and corona light is what they drink in the states.... hahaha

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Shakula

Budweiser and corona light is what they drink in the states.... hahaha

As i drink my third Guinness of the night.

[trix]

In Oklahoma they sell beer that is something like 3.2.

[madfuck]

ture tht....

[Shakula]

Staropramen, zlatopramen, zywiec, kronenbourg are a few very good ones..

[Shakula]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

As i drink my third Guinness of the night.

wow you are really a cool one!!

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by sortie

What do you drink, Zima?

kootenay mountain ale, wildcat, alexander keiths, or kokanee, depending on the night...

budweiser is some amerifag shit. my brother drinks it, it seriusly tastes like piss. old milwaukee is better than that crap...

[sortie]

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts

budweiser is some amerifag shit. my brother drinks it, it seriusly tastes like piss. old milwaukee is better than that crap...

Problem is that Bud is still better than most of the other ones.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Shakula

Budweiser and corona light is what they drink in the states.... hahaha

Originally Posted by L-Pink

As i drink my third Guinness of the night.

Originally Posted by Shakula

wow you are really a cool one!!

Why are you even here?



.

[Shakula]

L-Pink, im here to check for new content for my torrentwebsite.
Why are you herE?

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Shakula

L-Pink, im here to check for new content for my torrentwebsite.
Why are you herE?

I'm part of the industry, and you are here to steal.

.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

You guys just don't have a clue about the original Budweiser (from Bohemia) - some of the best beers in the world:



http://www.budweiser.cz/en/web/Produ...tly-lezak.html



http://www.budweiser.cz/en/web/Produ...avy-lezak.html

They have a neverending legal disputes regarding the brand, but as far as the US budweiser has almost no taste and ice chilled is what saves it. The Czech Budweiser is the beer no.1 for me.

[Xrated J]

isnt bud ice 5.9?

[Shakula]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I'm part of the industry, and you are here to steal.

.

Im a part of the industry too!
So we are collegues, lets chat!

[minddust]

US BEER? Pee!

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Shakula

Im a part of the industry too!
So we are collegues, lets chat!

Other than stealing content, what's new?

[D]

Originally Posted by donborno

Wikipedia tells me that in the US beer contains a maximum of 4.5% alcohol, and everything above is called malt liquor. Is that true?

That is incorrect. Whoever wrote that (assuming it's what he actually said) doesn't know what he's talking about.

"Beer" can easily surpass 10% ABV.

Sierra Nevada Bigfoot, for instance, is 12% ABV.

And there are hundreds of "beers" in the U.S. that top 4.5% - even in Utah, the state that arguably has the most stringent ABV laws in regards to beer.

In example: pretty much anything with the word "Imperial" in it would surpass 4.5% ABV.

Speaking from personal experience as a professional brewer, I regularly brewed a commercial beer that was at 7% ABV in the States.

I brewed another production beer that was 6% ABV, and another that was 5.7% ABV.

I've also brewed a number of specialty commercial brews that have topped 10%. Barley Wines, Belgian-Style Tripels, etc...

And that's just on the commercial side of things - without touching on the homebrew community in the U.S... which shares thousands - if not hundreds of thousands - of 4.5%+ batches of brew every year

"Malt Liquor" (which I've also personally brewed and, in fact, won a 'Great American Beer Festival' medal for a batch of) is a style of beer that uses light (if any) amounts of hops, specialty yeast, and is generally infused with other sugars such as corn syrup. It's generally high in alcohol, but that's not what entirely defines the style.

[Shakula]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Other than stealing content, what's new?

Why are you so hostile

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by D

That is incorrect. Whoever wrote that (assuming it's what he actually said) doesn't know what he's talking about.

"Beer" can easily surpass 10% ABV.

Sierra Nevada Bigfoot, for instance, is 12% ABV.

And there are hundreds of "beers" in the U.S. that top 4.5% - even in Utah, the state that arguably has the most stringent ABV laws in regards to beer.

In example: pretty much anything with the word "Imperial" in it would surpass 4.5% ABV.

Speaking from personal experience as a professional brewer, I regularly brewed a commercial beer that was at 7% ABV in the States.

I brewed another production beer that was 6% ABV, and another that was 5.7% ABV.

I've also brewed a number of specialty commercial brews that have topped 10%. Barley Wines, Belgian-Style Tripels, etc...

And that's just on the commercial side of things - without touching on the homebrew community in the U.S... which shares thousands - if not hundreds of thousands - of 4.5%+ batches of brew every year

"Malt Liquor" (which I've also personally brewed and, in fact, won a 'Great American Beer Festival' medal for a batch of) is a style of beer that uses light (if any) amounts of hops, specialty yeast, and is generally infused with other sugars such as corn syrup. It's generally high in alcohol, but that's not what entirely defines the style.

Yeah, that's what came to my mind at first, but I was not 100 pct. sure, I am sure US beers are in average stronger than the Euro beers. Good to see someone capable of a very dedicated beer talk

[Enemator]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Yeah, that's what came to my mind at first, but I was not 100 pct. sure, I am sure US beers are in average stronger than the Euro beers. Good to see someone capable of a very dedicated beer talk

WTH? You really have no idea about beer, the world and everything else, do you?

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Enemator

WTH? You really have no idea about beer, the world and everything else, do you?

Ha ha, is that another semi impotent keyboard warrior trying to make it big today?

Sorry I would be glad to play with you but I gotta get back to some work.

[tranza]

I have no idea of how much alcohol brazilian beers have, but I bet it's not that high neither..

[DutchTeenCash]

they add corn syrup to malt liquor hmm never knew that

[ServerGenius]

Sorry friends Beer is a Euro thing....we excell at making beer. Belgium,
The Netherlands, Germany, Czech Republic, Ireland.....that's where real beer is
made

[Axzar]

Originally Posted by D

That is incorrect. Whoever wrote that (assuming it's what he actually said) doesn't know what he's talking about.

"Beer" can easily surpass 10% ABV.

Sierra Nevada Bigfoot, for instance, is 12% ABV.

And there are hundreds of "beers" in the U.S. that top 4.5% - even in Utah, the state that arguably has the most stringent ABV laws in regards to beer.

In example: pretty much anything with the word "Imperial" in it would surpass 4.5% ABV.

Speaking from personal experience as a professional brewer, I regularly brewed a commercial beer that was at 7% ABV in the States.

I brewed another production beer that was 6% ABV, and another that was 5.7% ABV.

I've also brewed a number of specialty commercial brews that have topped 10%. Barley Wines, Belgian-Style Tripels, etc...

And that's just on the commercial side of things - without touching on the homebrew community in the U.S... which shares thousands - if not hundreds of thousands - of 4.5%+ batches of brew every year

"Malt Liquor" (which I've also personally brewed and, in fact, won a 'Great American Beer Festival' medal for a batch of) is a style of beer that uses light (if any) amounts of hops, specialty yeast, and is generally infused with other sugars such as corn syrup. It's generally high in alcohol, but that's not what entirely defines the style.

My new GFY Hero.

[Click Obey]

I am in the US but ill take a Belgian style brew any day.

[Azoy?]

Originally Posted by donborno

Wikipedia tells me that in the US beer contains a maximum of 4.5% alcohol, and everything above is called malt liquor. Is that true? Do you really use that word? Do you buy malt liquor or are you satisfied with the 4.5%?

can't really answer that being that in canada we get 10% beer which makes us very very happy

[sortie]

Originally Posted by D

That is incorrect. Whoever wrote that (assuming it's what he actually said) doesn't know what he's talking about.

"Beer" can easily surpass 10% ABV.

Sierra Nevada Bigfoot, for instance, is 12% ABV.

And there are hundreds of "beers" in the U.S. that top 4.5% - even in Utah, the state that arguably has the most stringent ABV laws in regards to beer.

In example: pretty much anything with the word "Imperial" in it would surpass 4.5% ABV.

Speaking from personal experience as a professional brewer, I regularly brewed a commercial beer that was at 7% ABV in the States.

I brewed another production beer that was 6% ABV, and another that was 5.7% ABV.

I've also brewed a number of specialty commercial brews that have topped 10%. Barley Wines, Belgian-Style Tripels, etc...

And that's just on the commercial side of things - without touching on the homebrew community in the U.S... which shares thousands - if not hundreds of thousands - of 4.5%+ batches of brew every year

"Malt Liquor" (which I've also personally brewed and, in fact, won a 'Great American Beer Festival' medal for a batch of) is a style of beer that uses light (if any) amounts of hops, specialty yeast, and is generally infused with other sugars such as corn syrup. It's generally high in alcohol, but that's not what entirely defines the style.

You forgot something. This is regulated by state!

http://norcalbeers.tribe.net/thread/...0-395e8f851948


States maintain and enforce a wide variety of beer laws, as well:
-After collecting applications and fees, states issue licenses to accounts
that want to sell beer. The number of licenses available is commonly limited
by state legislatures, often based on population.
-In many states distributors are protected by franchise laws. That means a
wholesaler is the only legal entity that can sell a specific beer in a
particular state or county. Restaurants, bars and stores must all buy from
one franchised distributor.
-Some states still limit the varieties of beer available for sale based on
strength ? anything over 6% alcohol by volume can?t be sold there . . . even
when 45% abv vodka is available! (Georgia began to allow beers over 6% abv in
2004; North Carolina in 2005.)
-Closing time: The only state that has 24/7 sales of alcohol is Nevada;
casinos in Atlantic City can also serve 24/7. In every other state, at some
period alcoholic beverage sales are prohibited, often starting at 2:00 am
(sometimes later) and ending at 6:00 am (or later).
-In many states, promotional goods with a value cannot be legally given from
a supplier to a licensed account. For example, a distributor or brewery
can?t legally give glassware or a neon sign away free to an account ? it must
be sold. In at least one state, beer logo glassware can?t be used at all,
even if was sold to the account.
-In Texas, any beer over 4% alcohol by volume (3.2% by weight) is labeled
?ale? whether it is fermented with ale yeast (Saccharomyces cerevisiae) or
lager yeast (S. uvarum). Any beer ? ale or lager - under 4% abv is labeled
?beer.? (See our archived 9-21-04 newsletter on ale vs. lager, right here:
www.merchantduvin.com/pages/1...ve.html/ )
-All draft beer brewed in Utah and all beer sold in Utah stores is 3.2% abw
(4% abv) or less. The only stronger beer (or ?heavy beer? as the state calls
it) sold in this state comes from state liquor stores, or is consumed
on-premise at a restaurant or airport lounge.
-In Pennsylvania, most beer to go is sold only by the case. (There are a few
?single-bottle? licenses.) What about a 12-bottle cases, say of Samuel Smith
large bottles, or of Orval Trappist Ale? Nope, it has to be 24 bottles. If
you are buying a case of those beers in Pennsylvania you will be buying two
12-bottle cases, packaged together.
-All beer sold to go in Indiana must be warm ? no cold beer to go.
-A Tennessee beer delivery truck can have strong beer or weak beer, but never
both: by law, barleywine can never be delivered on the same truck as light
lager . . . even if they are being shipped from the same warehouse to the
same account.


In addition there are laws for microbreweries that allow different, often higher, alcohol content.
So if you were a micro brewer with a limited distribution then your story is not the "norm".

[Slick]

Nothing beats a cold Labatt's Blue Light Gotta love the Canadian beer

For US beer when Labatts isn't available, I drink Coors Light.

[sniperwolf]

Good to know some good info about beer in here!

[Enemator]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Ha ha, is that another semi impotent keyboard warrior trying to make it big today?

Sorry I would be glad to play with you but I gotta get back to some work.

No, a beer fanatic. And you just made a dumb statement.

[D]

Originally Posted by sortie

You forgot something. This is regulated by state!

http://norcalbeers.tribe.net/thread/...0-395e8f851948

...

In addition there are laws for microbreweries that allow different, often higher, alcohol content.
So if you were a micro brewer with a limited distribution then your story is not the "norm".

It's not that I forgot that... it's that I didn't see the point in going into such detail. The question was in regards to 4.5%... and the false premise of the beverage being called "Malt Liquor" after that... and though I was familiar with the Texas law (one of the many states my beer was distributed into was Texas), "Ale" is still "Beer." The only state that might be regarded as disallowing beer more than 4.5% is Utah - and I believe, though briefly, I touched on that.

There are also lots of other crazy laws like those throughout the country - a lot of which are a result of the America Macrobrew lobby to keep foreign beer out of the hands of Americans back in the 70's and before... but many of those are being repealed as Americans are waking up and smelling the hops!

The American Microbrew scene has come a long way since the days of Ken and Steve Grossman making Sierra Nevada Pale Ale out of their garage in the 80's - not constrained by any real sense of formulaic tradition, American breweries are producing products with absolutely no bounds on what goes in or what can come out of a beer - making for a very lively scene.

Ask any brewer in the world where the most new and exciting things are happening in regards to beer, and I'd bet you the next pint he says the U.S.

[zigx]

Natty Ice Baby!!!

[severe]

Originally Posted by D

Sierra Nevada Bigfoot, for instance, is 12% ABV.

Sierra Nevada Bigfoot tastes like cough syrup to me, nothing like a beer. I haven't found a beer over 10ish% that retains a beer taste. 6/7% is the right spot for taste / alcohol. up to 10 some retain a beer taste.

personally budweiser, coors, etc... i wouldn't call beers, they're horrible. yuengling is my fav cheap beer. theres plenty small breweries that make excellent beers all over America so if your a beer lover and are coming to visit dont worry about not finding good beers to sample.

[DutchTeenCash]

Originally Posted by severe

Sierra Nevada Bigfoot tastes like cough syrup to me, nothing like a beer.

True

beer over 10% has a whole different taste, especially the double and triple ones, theyre not the Pils kinds most ppl like to drink. If you ever want something thats not too sweet and still high on % try to get Chimay, its no pils but really nice

[donborno]

Originally Posted by sniperwolf

Good to know some good info about beer in here!

Exactly, thank you guys, and thank you D in particular

[Enemator]

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

True

beer over 10% has a whole different taste, especially the double and triple ones, theyre not the Pils kinds most ppl like to drink. If you ever want something thats not too sweet and still high on % try to get Chimay, its no pils but really nice

Try this:

[EonBlue]

Sam Adams is a really good US beer.

Sleeman makes the best mainstream Canadian beer - much better than Molson or Labatt's. And then their are tons of microbreweries that make excellent beer like Upper Canada, Creemore Springs, Unibroue and Brick.

British beer like Boddington's and Irish beers like Kilkenny and Smithwick's are some of my favourite European beers.

[stev0]

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts

kootenay mountain ale, wildcat, alexander keiths, or kokanee, depending on the night...

budweiser is some amerifag shit. my brother drinks it, it seriusly tastes like piss. old milwaukee is better than that crap...

Wildcat?? yuck..

[DutchTeenCash]

Originally Posted by Enemator

Try this:

Karmeliet - never had that Ill certainly try to get that here

thanks

[pizzaid]

Thats true but all beer taste like shit anyways....Real men go strait for the real alcohol!!!

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Enemator

No, a beer fanatic. And you just made a dumb statement.

Ah come on, don't call yourself a beer fanatic unless you visit the land of the beer ..

[Enemator]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Ah come on, don't call yourself a beer fanatic unless you visit the land of the beer ..

Which one would that be? Egypt? Nope, haven't been there.
The home base of pilsener -> Czech Republic. Been there, done that.
Germany? Been there, done that.
Belgium? Been there, done that.
US? Hahahahaha. But, been there, done that

What other countries did you have in mind?

[Enemator]

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

Karmeliet - never had that Ill certainly try to get that here

thanks

You can get it anywhere in Holland.
It's gooood

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Enemator

Which one would that be? Egypt? Nope, haven't been there.
The home base of pilsener -> Czech Republic. Been there, done that.
Germany? Been there, done that.
Belgium? Been there, done that.
US? Hahahahaha. But, been there, done that

What other countries did you have in mind?

Allright I will give you a real beer fanatic question - what's wrong with the Pilsner Urquell lately? What's the reason Budweiser is now the premium beer in Czech Rep. ?