tmm on front page of washington post - GoFuckYourself.com

webmasterchecks · 01-03-2008, 09:21 PM

dont mean to beat a dead horse, but the washington post is one of the majors, thought it was newsworthy

kimmel got his own mention, the bastard that started this mess
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines

The breach was first reported on the blog In Corruption We Trust, by Keith Kimmel, who has two adult Web sites and uses the software. Kimmel claimed that "tens of thousands" of users' personal data may have been accessed. Albright, however, said it was hard to determine how many people are affected.

Customers may also be more reluctant to report a problem when the issue involved is online pornography. "Would you really want someone out there to know you surf porn sites, and the hardcore bondage stuff?" said Kimmel. "The guy out there buying a membership for his own personal pleasure has no clue."

XSecurityAudit · 01-03-2008, 09:24 PM

Haha. This just keeps going and going.

tony286 · 01-03-2008, 09:24 PM

one pissed off guy with a hi speed connection can be a dangerous thing.

notoldschool · 01-03-2008, 09:28 PM

someone paste it. i hate sites that make you register to read the story. Oh yeah, this might be the best time for this to hit the front page. Everyones talking about the caucuses.

tony286 · 01-03-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

someone paste it. i hate sites that make you register to read the story. Oh yeah, this might be the best time for this to hit the front page. Everyones talking about the caucuses.

its not on the front page actually but your right.The news of the day will be the race.

webmasterchecks · 01-03-2008, 09:31 PM

User Data Stolen From Pornographic Web Sites
Hackers Apparently Were After E-Mail Addresses for Spam, Not Credit Card Information

NEW YORK -- Consumers of Internet pornography who secretly signed up for memberships on adult-oriented Web sites in the past few months may be in for a shock -- some of their personal information, including e-mail addresses, may have been compromised by a security breach.

Though the breach, which potentially could affect tens of thousands of customers, reportedly did not involve the theft of credit card information, it could nonetheless have a significant impact on the lucrative Internet pornography industry, according to those who monitor the market. These observers note that online porn relies, as much as anything else, on the promise that its customers can enjoy complete anonymity as they indulge their favorite niche pastimes from the privacy of their own computers.

"It's a huge concern," said Jason Tucker, whose Falcon Foto company boasts one of the world's largest erotic libraries. "The relationship we have with our customers is based on trust. The industry's concern is if that trust has been violated, we could see a drop-off in customers."

A New Jersey company called Too Much Media, which supplies the software tracking system used by hundreds of adult sites, has reported that a list of its clients' user names and passwords was stolen. The company said no credit card information has been stolen.

"From what we have determined so far, whoever has done this was only seeking to harvest e-mail addresses for spam," said John Albright, the owner of Too Much Media, responding to e-mailed questions.

Albright said his company's software "is really an accounting package which handles the statistics and tracking for reseller programs. It does not process the transactions itself." Some pornography customers have already been reporting that their e-mail boxes are getting hit with pornographic spam attacks.

The breach was first reported on the blog In Corruption We Trust, by Keith Kimmel, who has two adult Web sites and uses the software. Kimmel claimed that "tens of thousands" of users' personal data may have been accessed. Albright, however, said it was hard to determine how many people are affected.

The breach has raised serious alarm in the world of adult-oriented Web sites, with many concerned about the effect on customers if they learn that their most secret transactions are not so secret after all.

"It's supposed to be a hush-hush transaction," said Chad Belville, a Phoenix-based lawyer who represents many adult industry clients, and is involved in an unrelated court case against Too Much Media. "There's already a hesitation to use your credit card online, and even more hesitation on a porn site, and this is going to make sales more difficult."

Internet security breaches have become increasingly common as security software races to keep pace, said Linda Foley, who runs the Identity Theft Resource Center.

Too Much Media supplies an administrative software program called NATS, for Next-Generation Administration and Tracking Software. The site lists scores of clients, including Porn Kings, Pornstar Dollars and Sex Stuff Sells. Many of these are affiliate sites that provide links to other smaller porn purveyors.

Albright said he first became aware of the breach in October and notified those clients he thought were affected. "As soon as it became apparent that the leak was not plugged and the issue was more widespread than we believed, we notified everyone," Albright said.

On Dec. 23, Too Much Media posted a warning on its Web site saying, "We have become aware of a security issue involving administrative passwords we maintain for support of our clients." The company said it was instituting new security features.

Too Much Media has been criticized on the online porn industry's discussion forums for waiting to put out the announcement. On one adult trade site, AVN Media Network, several clients claim that the NATS system may have been breached for as long as a year.

Albright said his company e-mailed all of its clients as soon as he learned the extent of the breach and posted the Dec. 23 notice when he learned some did not receive the e-mail.

But that explanation wasn't flying among some in the adult entertainment world. If the system had been compromised since October, Tucker said, "that's a long time to have a hole there."

Customers may also be more reluctant to report a problem when the issue involved is online pornography. "Would you really want someone out there to know you surf porn sites, and the hardcore bondage stuff?" said Kimmel. "The guy out there buying a membership for his own personal pleasure has no clue."

seeric · 01-03-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

one pissed off guy with a hi speed connection can be a dangerous thing.

webmasterchecks · 01-03-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

its not on the front page actually

More Headlines
CIA Planned Interrogation Tape Destruction in 2003 Libyan Exiles Hopeful
U.S., Libya Sign Accord Judge Rules Navy Must Limit Use of Sonar
Major Kenya Protest Postponed
Scene Bush Seeks Ideas on Stimulating Economy
User Data Stolen From Pornographic Sites
Israeli Strikes Kill Nine in Gaza Strip U.S. District Judge Calls Career Recess

BoyAlley · 01-03-2008, 09:36 PM

What I think is interesting, is that article has revealed publicly that Chad Belville, who happens to work as in-house council for Kink.com right now, is involved in a lawsuit against Too Much Media.

Wonder what that's all about hrmmmmmmm........?

webmasterchecks · 01-03-2008, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

What I think is interesting, is that article has revealed publicly that Chad Belville, who happens to work as in-house council for Kink.com right now, is involved in a lawsuit against Too Much Media.

Wonder what that's all about hrmmmmmmm........?

are you new here? ;)

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...mm+naked+rhino

Damian_Maxcash · 01-03-2008, 09:39 PM

I dont know what to say.

I suppose you have to give MinusOneBit credit where credit is due.

Remind me not to piss him off...

BoyAlley · 01-03-2008, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmasterchecks

are you new here? ;)

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...mm+naked+rhino

I'm aware of that lawsuit, but didn't realize Chad was acting as Xclusive Cash's council in it?

tony286 · 01-03-2008, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmasterchecks

More Headlines
CIA Planned Interrogation Tape Destruction in 2003 Libyan Exiles Hopeful
U.S., Libya Sign Accord Judge Rules Navy Must Limit Use of Sonar
Major Kenya Protest Postponed
Scene Bush Seeks Ideas on Stimulating Economy
User Data Stolen From Pornographic Sites
Israeli Strikes Kill Nine in Gaza Strip U.S. District Judge Calls Career Recess

sorry I didnt see it on the home page my bad.

MicDoohan · 01-03-2008, 09:42 PM

you just gave minueonebit an errection

webmasterchecks · 01-03-2008, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

I'm aware of that lawsuit, but didn't realize Chad was acting as Xclusive Cash's council in it?

gotcha, i just made that assumption, there are like 6 attorneys that take care of 80% of the lawsuits in this industry, chads one of them, was just kidding around with you

01-03-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by webmasterchecks

The breach was first reported on the blog In Corruption We Trust, by Keith Kimmel, who has two adult Web sites and uses the software.

The way they worded that, you'd think he had his own affiliate program.

notoldschool · 01-03-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by evildick

The way they worded that, you'd think he had his own affiliate program.

i thought it was funny how they made his sites seem important. He gets nil for traffic.

will76 · 01-03-2008, 09:54 PM

Fuck John / TMM i so fucking tired of this shit. For once in your life I wish you people would answer questions honestly and stop trying to spin it with bullshit.

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"From what we have determined so far, whoever has done this was only seeking to harvest e-mail addresses for spam," said John Albright, the owner of Too Much Media, responding to e-mailed questions.

This wasn't one person's membership site hacked or an email list that was stolen by a rep of a company and sold. Who ever did this had access to a LOT of servers where they could see the following: Affiliate information, how many sales affiliates made, what urls the affiliates were getting signps from, etc... This type of information could have easily been copied and sold to other adult sites. This type of information is 100x more valuable than email addresses to the right people. EXAMPLE How much do you think AFF would pay to see all of SexSearch's Affiliates info, stats, urls, etc...

But John wants to respond " from what we have determined so far it was just emails harvested for spam". HOW IN THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW IF DATA WAS STOLEN AND SOLD OR NOT? YOU CAN'T DETERMINE SHIT. HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PERSON DOING THIS WAS SEEKING. From what we determined, lol what a bunch of fucking ass clowns, the same people who thought this was an isolated event a couple months ago is now going to tell us they think only emails was stolen. Big surprised. More bullshit to try to make themselves look better instead of being honest and trying to get past this.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-03-2008, 10:02 PM

Wow...

Just WOw.

TampaToker · 01-03-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

I dont know what to say.

I suppose you have to give MinusOneBit credit where credit is due.

Remind me not to piss him off...

Please anyone could of got this story published its not hard

pocketkangaroo · 01-03-2008, 10:10 PM

I have no problem with the article or the questions directed at NATS. I just don't see how the Washington Post is using someone like minusonebit as a source. The article also makes it look like he's a customer of NATS. It's akin to asking the homeless guy on the street who uses the daily newspaper to keep warm what his thoughts are on a scandal in the paper. I can't fathom they couldn't get in touch with a program owner or someone who actually is in the industry to get a quote.

TampaToker · 01-03-2008, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I have no problem with the article or the questions directed at NATS. I just don't see how the Washington Post is using someone like minusonebit as a source. The article also makes it look like he's a customer of NATS. It's akin to asking the homeless guy on the street who uses the daily newspaper to keep warm what his thoughts are on a scandal in the paper. I can't fathom they couldn't get in touch with a program owner or someone who actually is in the industry to get a quote.

I agree the article was really well written. I also agree they should be getting there information from a more reliable source

Damian_Maxcash · 01-03-2008, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker

Please anyone could of got this story published its not hard

I have seen lots of people here threaten to wipe the floor with someone. Never seen it happen before.

Its not as ez as it looks......

dial · 01-03-2008, 10:31 PM

can you all see NOW that this is an issue

and every time you reply to minusonebit's threads you further this shit

fuck you all, you mindless twits

HS-Trixxxia · 01-03-2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Hate to be one of the affiliate companies mentioned. Maybe time to change your name?

I don't think they'd want to do that, if they did, they wouldn't be talking to the press.

Trixxxia · 01-04-2008, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

true, but it does reflect poorly on you or your Company implicating there was a breach or were a victim?

The saying goes, 'Any publicity is good publicity' so long as they keep talking about you.

**Personally not my thing in this particular case but I'm sure there are thousands of people that will be typing it in and searching them out all weekend long & for a few weeks to come or at least until the articles stop popping up** (On a side note, SexStuffSells.com should think of putting a 'Surfer' or 'Webmaster' intro page before their site if they want to capitalize on the extra traffic)

minusonebit · 01-04-2008, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmasterchecks

dont mean to beat a dead horse, but the washington post is one of the majors, thought it was newsworthy

kimmel got his own mention, the bastard that started this mess
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines

The breach was first reported on the blog In Corruption We Trust, by Keith Kimmel, who has two adult Web sites and uses the software. Kimmel claimed that "tens of thousands" of users' personal data may have been accessed. Albright, however, said it was hard to determine how many people are affected.

Customers may also be more reluctant to report a problem when the issue involved is online pornography. "Would you really want someone out there to know you surf porn sites, and the hardcore bondage stuff?" said Kimmel. "The guy out there buying a membership for his own personal pleasure has no clue."

The "bastard" (your words, not mine) that started this are at Too Much Media. Don't blame me for making light of other people's monumental fuckups.

Quote:

Originally Posted by evildick

The way they worded that, you'd think he had his own affiliate program.

The way they worded it, you'd think I was a user on their software. Which I am. A user. Not a licensee. Not that it matters anyway. Whether I am a user or a NATS owner has nothing to do with any of it, but it is a nice bit for the sigwhores and people who truly do have no interest in this matter other than to attack me to argue about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I have no problem with the article or the questions directed at NATS. I just don't see how the Washington Post is using someone like minusonebit as a source. The article also makes it look like he's a customer of NATS. It's akin to asking the homeless guy on the street who uses the daily newspaper to keep warm what his thoughts are on a scandal in the paper. I can't fathom they couldn't get in touch with a program owner or someone who actually is in the industry to get a quote.

No, thats not what it is like at all.

They used me as *a* source because my information checked out. It was verified by many, many people. Another reason was the fact that it was my story. I was the first one to get it covered, both on my blog and in mainstream press. And I was the first person to contact Keith at WashPost. I specifically sought him out after reviewing alot of his other stuff and through that he or Robin there would be the best prospects. I then called the managing editor's office, explained the story and they put me in touch with Robin who said she was busy with another story at the time and then sent me to Keith who was very interested. I specifically mentioned the Daily News fiasco and he said "I credit my sources". Sure, someone else could have probably done the same thing, hunted for a reporter, got the seed planted, followed up, etc. But they didn't and I did. Could had, would have, should have doesn't count for shit. What counts is what was actually done.

Why have I gotten this covered so well? Because when you are running a campaign, you do not target the media with a bazooka and blast a press release into every general editor's mailbox. Great way to get absolutely no coverage. Instead, you attack with a sniper's rifle. You seek out reporters who have covered your topic before and covered it from your viewpoint. You read their most recent coverage so that when you call them you can point out any connections to stuff they have recently done. Media wants a story, you give them a story, you don't give them a press release.

I am in the industry. I have two sites. That counts as being in the industry. Sure, you all like to say I am not, but that is actually in and of it self a lie. My industry involvement was verified. None of you have ever answered the question about what exactly constitutes being in the industry. How many sites do you have to have before you are in the industry? If you make money peddling smut, you're on this boat, you're in the industry and you have just as much right to bitch about things that affect you as the owners of Falcon Studios, Twistys or any other the other "big guys" do.

And they did get in touch with several people in the industry. They quoted several of them and they talked to several more people who did not get mentioned, maybe because some of them did not want to be mentioned. I know because I along with a few other people spent quite a bit of time on the phone with the reporter telling him where information could be verified and who would confirm what facts. Papers like WP do not just run with stories without multiple sources backing up every single statement, allegation and claimed fact. They have a group of people who do nothing but check facts independent of the reporter before the thing goes to print.

The fact of the matter is you and others are trying to tear down the WP's use of me as *a* source because you dislike me and because you don't like the fact that I got it out there and I got credited with it. Tough shit. Cry to someone who cares, because I sure do not.

minusonebit · 01-04-2008, 01:25 AM

And around she goes... one place picked it up already, probably past deadlines for most papers, so it will get picked up for Saturday...

http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14829

TampaToker · 01-04-2008, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dial

can you all see NOW that this is an issue

and every time you reply to minusonebit's threads you further this shit

fuck you all, you mindless twits

This is far from a issue news wise. This is todays news and they will move on to the next story tomorrow. Now if cc info got out well thats a whole different ball game. Sales will still come in like clock work.

SmokeyTheBear · 01-04-2008, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit

Another reason was the fact that it was my story. I was the first one to get it covered, both on my blog and in mainstream press..

it wasn't your story it was on gfy first, you were the first to regurgitate what was detailed on gfy in the mainstream because nobody here would shit where they eat.

the article falsely states you were the first place it was reported when infact gfy was the first place it was publicly reported.

if you are exposing the nats story to mainstream because you are a surfer then by all means , you found a good place for dirt and you did a pretty good job exposing the story, but the exposure doesnt help the industry so if you are a webmaster it is just silly, the average surfer wont understand or care about 90% of the article, all they will remember is "porn sites might leak my info"

Paul Markham · 01-04-2008, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

Fuck John / TMM i so fucking tired of this shit. For once in your life I wish you people would answer questions honestly and stop trying to spin it with bullshit.

This wasn't one person's membership site hacked or an email list that was stolen by a rep of a company and sold. Who ever did this had access to a LOT of servers where they could see the following: Affiliate information, how many sales affiliates made, what urls the affiliates were getting signps from, etc... This type of information could have easily been copied and sold to other adult sites. This type of information is 100x more valuable than email addresses to the right people. EXAMPLE How much do you think AFF would pay to see all of SexSearch's Affiliates info, stats, urls, etc...

But John wants to respond " from what we have determined so far it was just emails harvested for spam". HOW IN THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW IF DATA WAS STOLEN AND SOLD OR NOT? YOU CAN'T DETERMINE SHIT. HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PERSON DOING THIS WAS SEEKING. From what we determined, lol what a bunch of fucking ass clowns, the same people who thought this was an isolated event a couple months ago is now going to tell us they think only emails was stolen. Big surprised. More bullshit to try to make themselves look better instead of being honest and trying to get past this.

The blame for this lies squarely at the door of John Albright. Only those interested in diverting attention away from him and NATS want to point it to m1b.

V_RocKs · 01-04-2008, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by webmasterchecks

are you new here? ;)

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...mm+naked+rhino

His excuse is that he is gay and everything just gets put up his ass. Including his head.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-04-2008, 03:05 AM

No matter how ya want to paint it, bottom line is this hurts the industries reputation.

This guy is no hero.

borked · 01-04-2008, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmasterchecks

Kimmel claimed that "tens of thousands" of users' personal data may have been accessed. Albright, however, said it was hard to determine how many people are affected.

thousands???

webmasterchecks · 01-04-2008, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit

The "bastard" (your words, not mine) that started this are at Too Much Media. Don't blame me for making light of other people's monumental fuckups.

things like that happen around here every 3 months, security is shit with many of the programs around here, only some things are kept quiet, and some arent.

if the media was informed of every security breach that happens around here,the public wouldnt give us any of their information

sort of like if a report about bad airport security got out, its not good for the airlines sales

lbc213 · 01-04-2008, 07:59 AM

'kin hell

GonZo · 01-04-2008, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

No matter how ya want to paint it, bottom line is this hurts the industries reputation.

This guy is no hero.

HOLY SHIT!!! I agree with Alien!

shunga · 01-04-2008, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The blame for this lies squarely at the door of John Albright. Only those interested in diverting attention away from him and NATS want to point it to m1b.

This is pure beating a dead horse. We know what happened. TMM have admitted their mistakes. Now fucking move the fuck on.

01-03-2008, 09:21 PM	#1
webmasterchecks Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,685	tmm on front page of washington post dont mean to beat a dead horse, but the washington post is one of the majors, thought it was newsworthy kimmel got his own mention, the bastard that started this mess http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines The breach was first reported on the blog In Corruption We Trust, by Keith Kimmel, who has two adult Web sites and uses the software. Kimmel claimed that "tens of thousands" of users' personal data may have been accessed. Albright, however, said it was hard to determine how many people are affected. Customers may also be more reluctant to report a problem when the issue involved is online pornography. "Would you really want someone out there to know you surf porn sites, and the hardcore bondage stuff?" said Kimmel. "The guy out there buying a membership for his own personal pleasure has no clue." __________________ Webmasterchecks Affiliate Payments - fully compatible with nats/mpa3

01-03-2008, 09:28 PM	#4
notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	someone paste it. i hate sites that make you register to read the story. Oh yeah, this might be the best time for this to hit the front page. Everyones talking about the caucuses. __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com

01-03-2008, 09:31 PM	#6
webmasterchecks Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,685	User Data Stolen From Pornographic Web Sites Hackers Apparently Were After E-Mail Addresses for Spam, Not Credit Card Information NEW YORK -- Consumers of Internet pornography who secretly signed up for memberships on adult-oriented Web sites in the past few months may be in for a shock -- some of their personal information, including e-mail addresses, may have been compromised by a security breach. Though the breach, which potentially could affect tens of thousands of customers, reportedly did not involve the theft of credit card information, it could nonetheless have a significant impact on the lucrative Internet pornography industry, according to those who monitor the market. These observers note that online porn relies, as much as anything else, on the promise that its customers can enjoy complete anonymity as they indulge their favorite niche pastimes from the privacy of their own computers. "It's a huge concern," said Jason Tucker, whose Falcon Foto company boasts one of the world's largest erotic libraries. "The relationship we have with our customers is based on trust. The industry's concern is if that trust has been violated, we could see a drop-off in customers." A New Jersey company called Too Much Media, which supplies the software tracking system used by hundreds of adult sites, has reported that a list of its clients' user names and passwords was stolen. The company said no credit card information has been stolen. "From what we have determined so far, whoever has done this was only seeking to harvest e-mail addresses for spam," said John Albright, the owner of Too Much Media, responding to e-mailed questions. Albright said his company's software "is really an accounting package which handles the statistics and tracking for reseller programs. It does not process the transactions itself." Some pornography customers have already been reporting that their e-mail boxes are getting hit with pornographic spam attacks. The breach was first reported on the blog In Corruption We Trust, by Keith Kimmel, who has two adult Web sites and uses the software. Kimmel claimed that "tens of thousands" of users' personal data may have been accessed. Albright, however, said it was hard to determine how many people are affected. The breach has raised serious alarm in the world of adult-oriented Web sites, with many concerned about the effect on customers if they learn that their most secret transactions are not so secret after all. "It's supposed to be a hush-hush transaction," said Chad Belville, a Phoenix-based lawyer who represents many adult industry clients, and is involved in an unrelated court case against Too Much Media. "There's already a hesitation to use your credit card online, and even more hesitation on a porn site, and this is going to make sales more difficult." Internet security breaches have become increasingly common as security software races to keep pace, said Linda Foley, who runs the Identity Theft Resource Center. Too Much Media supplies an administrative software program called NATS, for Next-Generation Administration and Tracking Software. The site lists scores of clients, including Porn Kings, Pornstar Dollars and Sex Stuff Sells. Many of these are affiliate sites that provide links to other smaller porn purveyors. Albright said he first became aware of the breach in October and notified those clients he thought were affected. "As soon as it became apparent that the leak was not plugged and the issue was more widespread than we believed, we notified everyone," Albright said. On Dec. 23, Too Much Media posted a warning on its Web site saying, "We have become aware of a security issue involving administrative passwords we maintain for support of our clients." The company said it was instituting new security features. Too Much Media has been criticized on the online porn industry's discussion forums for waiting to put out the announcement. On one adult trade site, AVN Media Network, several clients claim that the NATS system may have been breached for as long as a year. Albright said his company e-mailed all of its clients as soon as he learned the extent of the breach and posted the Dec. 23 notice when he learned some did not receive the e-mail. But that explanation wasn't flying among some in the adult entertainment world. If the system had been compromised since October, Tucker said, "that's a long time to have a hole there." Customers may also be more reluctant to report a problem when the issue involved is online pornography. "Would you really want someone out there to know you surf porn sites, and the hardcore bondage stuff?" said Kimmel. "The guy out there buying a membership for his own personal pleasure has no clue." __________________ Webmasterchecks Affiliate Payments - fully compatible with nats/mpa3

01-03-2008, 09:36 PM	#9
BoyAlley So Fucking Gay Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,714	What I think is interesting, is that article has revealed publicly that Chad Belville, who happens to work as in-house council for Kink.com right now, is involved in a lawsuit against Too Much Media. Wonder what that's all about hrmmmmmmm........? Last edited by BoyAlley; 01-03-2008 at 09:37 PM..

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01-03-2008, 09:24 PM	#2
XSecurityAudit Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 79	Haha. This just keeps going and going.

01-03-2008, 09:24 PM	#3
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	one pissed off guy with a hi speed connection can be a dangerous thing.

01-03-2008, 09:39 PM	#11
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	I dont know what to say. I suppose you have to give MinusOneBit credit where credit is due. Remind me not to piss him off...

01-03-2008, 09:42 PM	#14
MicDoohan Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 791	you just gave minueonebit an errection

01-03-2008, 10:10 PM	#21
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I have no problem with the article or the questions directed at NATS. I just don't see how the Washington Post is using someone like minusonebit as a source. The article also makes it look like he's a customer of NATS. It's akin to asking the homeless guy on the street who uses the daily newspaper to keep warm what his thoughts are on a scandal in the paper. I can't fathom they couldn't get in touch with a program owner or someone who actually is in the industry to get a quote.

01-03-2008, 10:31 PM	#24
dial Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: wherever you aren't Posts: 1,225	can you all see NOW that this is an issue and every time you reply to minusonebit's threads you further this shit fuck you all, you mindless twits __________________ boom chicka wah wah

01-04-2008, 01:25 AM	#28
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	And around she goes... one place picked it up already, probably past deadlines for most papers, so it will get picked up for Saturday... http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14829

01-04-2008, 03:05 AM	#33
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01-04-2008, 07:59 AM	#36
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