Australia ISPs will have to filter porn .... - GoFuckYourself.com

Damian_Maxcash · 12-31-2007, 11:31 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7165987.stm

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Australia is planning tough new rules to protect children from online pornography and violence.

The new Labor government wants internet service providers to filter content to ensure households and schools do not receive "inappropriate" material.

Civil libertarians have condemned the plan as unnecessary, and say it will erode the freedom of the internet.

But telecommunications minister Stephen Conroy said more needed to be done to protect children.

Family-friendly

The Australian government's aim is to ensure that children only have access to family-friendly websites.

Service providers will be expected to stop the flow of pornography and other X-rated or violent content.

The government is set to compile a list of unsuitable sites, although at this stage it is unclear what will be deemed unsuitable.

Australians wanting unfettered access to the web will have to contact their supplier to opt out of the new regime.

Critics of the proposals have insisted they have no place in a liberal democracy, and have accused Canberra of being oppressive.

But Mr Conroy has been unmoved by their arguments.

The minister stressed that if people equated freedom of speech with watching child pornography then he would always disagree with them.

Concerns have also been raised that the government's filters could slow down access to the net, in a country where connection speeds are often below international standards.

Thats fucked up......

Curious wont be able to look at his own sites!! (JK He can opt out)

FredIsMe · 12-31-2007, 12:57 PM

Omg We Need To Protect Teh Children!!!!

notoldschool · 12-31-2007, 01:01 PM

"The minister stressed that if people equated freedom of speech with watching child pornography then he would always disagree with them."

Are they talking about filtering porn or just child porn. Is he is equating child porn with regular porn?

Socks · 12-31-2007, 01:47 PM

He is, and he did.

NewbieNudes · 12-31-2007, 01:53 PM

This is TOTALLY fucked.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...31/2129471.htm

Happy new year fellow aussies - we now join the ranks of china and the middle eastern block.

Here we were bitching about 2257!!!

:S

papill0n · 12-31-2007, 01:54 PM

OH SHITT!!!

what a way to hit 2008!

papill0n · 12-31-2007, 01:56 PM

Damian does the UK have something similar to this already in place?

Sarah_Jayne · 12-31-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

Damian does the UK have something similar to this already in place?

no it doesn't

borked · 12-31-2007, 02:32 PM

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The minister stressed that if people equated freedom of speech with watching child pornography then he would always disagree with them.

I'm lost here - I think this minister is using CP for his own cruisade and mixing words as he goes

L-Pink · 12-31-2007, 02:32 PM

It's all in the name of "children"

papill0n · 12-31-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

no it doesn't

Just curious because he says this....

Quote:

"The internet hasn't ground to a halt in the UK, it hasn't ground to a halt in Scandinavian countries and it's not grinding the internet to a halt in Europe.

To me that implies such a scheme already exists in parts of Europe.

rowan · 12-31-2007, 04:21 PM

There's already legislation for opt-in filtering that came in around the end of the 1990s, but it was so technically nonviable that it didn't seem to go anywhere.

Filtering is a fine balance between outraged parents and excessive collateral damage. A computer program is not a replacement for proper parental supervision.

It is still a difficult technical issue. This will fail just like the other law did, but it will still be yahoo'd about at every opportunity so that Australians think the govt is taking care of them.

NewbieNudes · 12-31-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan

It is still a difficult technical issue. This will fail just like the other law did, but it will still be yahoo'd about at every opportunity so that Australians think the govt is taking care of them.

I think you might misunderstand. It isn't a technical issue to build a blacklist of sites and mandate the ISPs don't allow traffic on those domains. This is the type of thing they are suggesting, ISP level filtering! Not the client side software solution that was a complete joke.

This development is wrong on so many levels it is staggering! Where is our constitution embodying free speech when we need it!!

papill0n · 12-31-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NewbieNudes

I think you might misunderstand. It isn't a technical issue to build a blacklist of sites and mandate the ISPs don't allow traffic on those domains. This is the type of thing they are suggesting, ISP level filtering! Not the client side software solution that was a complete joke.

This development is wrong on so many levels it is staggering! Where is our constitution embodying free speech when we need it!!

It sure seems like a ridiculous knee jerk reaction to me.

I thought howard was ultra conservative but this is just so over the top its embarrassing.

Barefootsies · 12-31-2007, 04:44 PM

ouch...

NewbieNudes · 12-31-2007, 04:48 PM

This effects everyone with English speaking traffic, you will roughly lose 2-8% of your traffic (australian surfers - numbers guessed based on our traffic)

Some maybe lots more!

Steve Awesome · 12-31-2007, 04:49 PM

I'm sure the voters will eat it up.

NewbieNudes · 12-31-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Awesome

I'm sure the voters will eat it up.

The election is over. This is the new elected government announcing policy - not pre-election banter.

aico · 12-31-2007, 04:51 PM

yay! more responsibility taken away from the parents.

notoldschool · 12-31-2007, 04:53 PM

sucks to be australian. Im sure huckabee or romney will accomplish alot more in a short time.

Diligent · 12-31-2007, 05:00 PM

That's just retarded... but it's how politicians choose to tackle the issue - it's not like they've seen their "moral" voters be against such "solutions".
Seems rather typical of "better-than-thou"/"higher moral valuing" people to be clueless on how the internet works, and who's to blame...
like the internet is broadcasted/"push content" as opposed to "pull content", pff!

What's gotta happen is; both politicians and people need education around these matters, or all-&-ANY adult goes into a mandatory,web-coexisting, opt-in protocol
(like http://XXX.porn.com ).

The first method just isn't happening, we've all learnt that the past.. what, 5 years?
The second method... I think the industry really needs to both propose, back & push it! Or else we'll be stuck with stupid decisions like this worldwide soon.

tony286 · 12-31-2007, 05:05 PM

This is only the start, the more tube sites showing full pornos to anyone with the click of a mouse. Plan on more and more countries doing this. Now to me I think instead of doing this they should make it law you got kids you have to have a filter on your system.

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rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	There's already legislation for opt-in filtering that came in around the end of the 1990s, but it was so technically nonviable that it didn't seem to go anywhere. Filtering is a fine balance between outraged parents and excessive collateral damage. A computer program is not a replacement for proper parental supervision. It is still a difficult technical issue. This will fail just like the other law did, but it will still be yahoo'd about at every opportunity so that Australians think the govt is taking care of them.

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Diligent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hoy Suecia, mañana Nirvana Posts: 1,594	That's just retarded... but it's how politicians choose to tackle the issue - it's not like they've seen their "moral" voters be against such "solutions". Seems rather typical of "better-than-thou"/"higher moral valuing" people to be clueless on how the internet works, and who's to blame... like the internet is broadcasted/"push content" as opposed to "pull content", pff! What's gotta happen is; both politicians and people need education around these matters, or all-&-ANY adult goes into a mandatory,web-coexisting, opt-in protocol (like http://XXX.porn.com ). The first method just isn't happening, we've all learnt that the past.. what, 5 years? The second method... I think the industry really needs to both propose, back & push it! Or else we'll be stuck with stupid decisions like this worldwide soon. __________________ ~¤~ MORE MONEY ~¤~ VOD? XoD! ~¤~ ~¤~ ICQ# 9828 2461 ~¤~

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	This is only the start, the more tube sites showing full pornos to anyone with the click of a mouse. Plan on more and more countries doing this. Now to me I think instead of doing this they should make it law you got kids you have to have a filter on your system.